Comments on: Pakistan Rudderless After Bhutto's Death

Grief And Violence In The Streets; Division On How To Carry On Bhutto's Legacy

[hungry1968]

Because every minute we stay there costs me tax dollars that the RINO borrow and spend monkeys use like toilet paper. Because it can''''t be won anymore than the Israelis have won the fight against "turrrrists". That''''s why.....sheesh, fearmonger RINOs....

Posted by FloydZepp at 09:32 AM : Dec 29, 2007



Right on Floyd. That and the fact that 76% of Iraqi''s want us to leave, because they view us as an "occupation force" - not "liberators".

Most compelling should be the fact that 72% of AMERICANS want us out of there. There''s this little part of our country''s history, that our government seems to forget - "By the People, For the People". In other words, the government should follow the will of the people. Not the military industrial complex.

[emsaund1]

Because every minute we stay there costs me tax dollars that the RINO borrow and spend monkeys use like toilet paper. Because it can''''t be won anymore than the Israelis have won the fight against "turrrrists". That''''s why.....sheesh, fearmonger RINOs....


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Posted by FloydZepp


Well, that''s part of it, but there were other reasons as well. What you are describing is the liberal "Hippie" movement.

So, I take it that you agree with me on the reason why we pulled out prematurely?

[hungry1968]

The usual lack of respect for a strong military by the liberal LBJ''''s administration at the start of the Vietnam war along with the traitor''''s Fonda, Kerry, and others most likely also contributed to our demise.

Posted by emsaund1 at 09:17 AM : Dec 29, 2007



You''re calling a decorated war hero a traitor?!?!

I suppose you consider "AWOL George" and "Five-Deferment Cheney" to be "True American Patriots"?

[emsaund1]

You must be a tired, old news republican. Booooring.


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Posted by FloydZepp


Come up with a better reason for us having to pull out prematurely, and I would be willing to listen.

One note that I forgot to add though. What I posted about the Vietnam vets meant no disrespect to them whatsoever. They won every battle they fought in Vietnam.

The core of us having to pull out prematurely was the liberal hippie movement and the constant demoralizing of the nation by the Hollywood elite.

[emsaund1]

As ANY Vietnam Vet will tell you, you can''''t "give" people Democracy THEY must be willing to fight for it AND accept the opinion''''s and positon''''s of those they do NOT agree with -- MCVET


Oh, I believe the South Vietnamese were willing to fight for Democracy. They just did not have the numbers, nor the know-how to do it.

It was relied upon us to stop the spread of communism in which we failed to do so.

The American military during that time was not very well equipped, nor very well trained at that time. (most likely due to lax entry qualifications and drafting pot smoking hippies)

The usual lack of respect for a strong military by the liberal LBJ''s administration at the start of the Vietnam war along with the traitor''s Fonda, Kerry, and others most likely also contributed to our demise.

[smtchcose]

i signed in www.interracialloving.com and there were always many men and women talking about Bhutto''s Death... you know it is a site where diversely ethnic singles meet new friends, make great dates, and build lasting interracial relationships.

[mcvet]

If you don''''t intend to promote democracy in these countries you speak you may as well stay out of what is happening, as the thugs always win out.



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Posted by jowand at 05:26 AM : Dec 29, 2007
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As ANY Vietnam Vet will tell you, you can''t "give" people Democracy THEY must be willing to fight for it AND accept the opinion''s and positon''s of those they do NOT agree with. You also, can not just walk into people''s countries armed to the teeth and start TELLING them how to govern themselves. We have been fighting that fight in this nation for over 200 years. Go back through our history books and LOOK at the number of times someone, who wished to expand or extend freedom, has been called a Radical or Liberal by the Right! Sieg Heil Bush

[emsaund1]

Now, this is funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxXPo-qVWJc

[pcal5]

It is obvious that Mush is a BIG liar and a POOR liar. It is obvious that Bush is in bed with Mush with his pants all the way off. It is obvious that Bush and Craig and Haggard and Huckabee are BIG liars, and at least to the matrix gang at matrix-evolutions dot com, POOR liars. Watch next what the brave Pakistani people do to their BIG liar.

[jowand]

Cross cultural social engineering should be outlawed as genocide and we should attend to our search and destroy activity. Leave Iraq to the incidence of her active Warlords. Pakistan has President General Musharraf whose allies are collegial officers ... We should accept his standards and apply our coadaptive efforts to hunt Al Qaeda and Taliban who contest us. We should not be advancing democracy which requires more than rallies and ink in boxes.
Posted by glaswolf at 02:30 AM : Dec 29, 2007

If you don''t intend to promote democracy in these countries you speak you may as well stay out of what is happening, as the thugs always win out.

[glaswolf]

Y2K brought 20th century thinking into a 21st century war ... We hunt terrorism in killing fields occuppied by other wars and ill defined aggression. We must learn to ally ourselves with the fighting Warlords in these other arenas as we pace our hunt and avoid becoming distracted by humanitarian considerations and nation building. Cross cultural social engineering should be outlawed as genocide and we should attend to our search and destroy activity. Leave Iraq to the incidence of her active Warlords. Pakistan has President General Musharraf whose allies are collegial officers ... We should accept his standards and apply our coadaptive efforts to hunt Al Qaeda and Taliban who contest us. We should not be advancing democracy which requires more than rallies and ink in boxes.

[far_point200]

Hmmm.... Barbarians with nukes: NOT GOOD!

[jb01201a]

Well, the libs will say "george" or "***" did it. Why not, you all think a missile hit the world trade centers. This just proves you libs are stupid. And yes, I voted for Bush twice and I am proud of it after voting for your clinton twice which was a big mistake.

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by ozonmojo

As long as the US puppet Musharraf has the army behind him he can maintain the trappings of power, but that is not leading a country, it is imprisoning it.

Signboards that had been erected two months ago to mark Bhutto''s return from exile to Pakistan still dotted the route. On one, someone had scrawled, "Benazir you are the hope for the poor."

Sadly that hope, just like the hope for the poor in America, has been murdered...

[ozonmojo]

The headline is dead wrong.Benazir''s party is rudderless at the moment.But Pakistan is fine.The egregious folly of underestimating Pervez Musharraf continues,unfortunately.He can steady the boat as long as the army is behind him.Benazir,like any dead leader,does not matter so much in the long term. Let us not forget she was not in the picture at all until a couple of months back

[b-easy63]

Posted by libsluvsuvs at 05:45 PM : Dec 28, 2007
those who see a ''''''''conspiracy'''''''' in the most simple things is a sign of a demented delussional and often bitter person..
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The problem with conspiracy theories is though that engage in conspiracies have managed to portray them as a joke and believers as loonies--but the sad truth is, that many major conspiracy theories have some merit and years or decades later, are found out to have been at least partially true. Remember that and be careful what you repudiate--in the future it may be the theorists who appear prescient, while everyone who denied and mocked them are shown to have been fools and dupes.

[jb01201a]

-whitman. Personally, I don''''t give a *** about the GOP or any other party. I just want my brothers and sisters home and treated like hero''''s. That''''s all. By talk2chief - perfect statement - give this man a beer !

[zootallures2]

Well, wolfowitz really did want to help the poor when he worked for the banks.

Posted by bucktooth99 at 09:09 PM : Dec 28, 2007

Had no idea you get poor owning a diamond mine...LOL!

[talk2chief]

BT




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[talk2chief]

j-whitman. Personally, I don''t give a *** about the GOP or any other party. I just want my brothers and sisters home and treated like hero''s. That''s all.