Comments on: GIs Fire On Iraqi Bus, Kill At Least 5

Dead At Military Checkpoint Include Child; Elsewhere, 2 U.S. Soldiers Killed

[searingtruth]

"SearingTruth Do you ever actually look for the truth, or do you just hear a story on tv and believe everything you are told?"
smiley676


Well, since the neocons have given up rational debate and are now simply resorting to personal disparagement I''d say the truth has won.

Oh well. It''s tough to defeat The Constitution of the United States of America. And I have multiple copies!
ST


"Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense."
The Constitution of the United States of America

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[b-easy63]

Posted by smiley676 at 11:45 AM : Nov 27, 2007

Oh Please!! Cruel and inhuman men have run and controlled populations since men created societies and we have managed just fine. The trick is to take care of and provide defenses for HOME before we stick our nose in other countries.

Freeing other people is a high idea--but when that action can cause the death and destruction of the people you are trying to help--it behooves us to have them agree to our acts not IMPOSE them on them and claim it is for their own good. I would not want anyone to "free" AMericans from Bush by killing, raping, torturing and imprisoning the US while they destroyed all of our cities.
Hint: Do you really think that a country that can claim over 130 beheadings this year and beats a rape victim over 290 times is not cruel or inhuman? If what you say is our acts of trying to save the world, why aren''t we in Dafur, Sudan, Malaysia, Rwanda, Liberia, etc.? The argument of fake halos and lofty ideas fall apart upon close examination. Why are AMerican companies moving to oppressive lands as HQ"s (Halliburton in Dubai). there are no halos here--and the lie about why we are in Iraq is tiring. We are there for strategic advantages for war, oil and market share. WE know it, the Iraqis know it, the world knows it--only American apologists keep lying to themselves to try to find a higher calling for the bloodbath that we created in Iraq.

[hillaryin08]

OK, one more time, www.searingtruth.com and most of the other kooks on our websites are part of the enemy propaganda machine. This does not cost them a dime. The reason why Americans buy into it is because they hate Bush. %u201CThe enemy of my enemy is my friend%u201D

Don%u2019t give these guys the time of day.

[smiley676]

SearingTruth Do you ever actually look for the truth, or do you just hear a story on tv and believe everything you are told?

[hillaryin08]

www.searingtruth.com is being run out of Iran by the way in case anyone is wondering.

[b-easy63]

WP: Our military denied it then admitted to firing WPdirectly at civilians in 2004. WP is banned from use by the Geneva Convention and the US military manual forbids its use in urban areas or at human targets. WP was one of the chemicals provided by the US to Saddam for use against the Kurds. The people were redirected at gun point to go back to their villages and wait in the houses before it was fired at them. This was confirmed by survivors and the US military. Iraq put the death toll at over 1200, America refused that number but responded with "we don''t count civilian deaths"

Rendition: Forbidden by GC, UN, EU but this rule was broken by the US and we do engage in kidnapping and taking people to foreign lands to be tortured.

Torture: forbidden by GC, Constitution, EU, UN, etc. We did it, probably are still doing it and our President justifies this.

Firing on anyone using civilians as targets is prohibited by the GC

Denying rights to those incarcerated due to and during a time of war is prohibited by the GC.

America helped to draft the GC then we broke it ourselves and finally removed our names as signatures because we were in violation of our own Constitution by ignoring treaties or rules/international laws we signed.

so the point is we break and ignore our own rules--why should anyone else respect them. War means death, mayhem and destruction. With such certainties--there are no rules except to survive.

[hillaryin08]

Hellllllloooooo people, www.searingtruth.com and 50 other posters on this site and others are working for the enemy and it doesent cost them a dime.

[searingtruth]

"SearingTruth- "the murderous rules of engagement Bush has imposed on our military in Iraq" What a bunch of crapp! The U.S. soldiers in Iraq are fighting by rules dictated by a moral and ethical compass unknown to enemy. Please explain to all of us what "rules of engagement" the radical Islamists follow??????"
notblue


Ummmm ....

They don''t follow any.

Nor did King George, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, or Mao.

But that''s what made us different from them, didn''t it?

Americans are not just another group of common murderous thugs who imprison, torture, and murder at will, no matter how much Bush and his henchmen want us to be.
ST


"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of Government, December 23, 1791

"Cruelty and brutality are evidence of evil, not strength."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[b-easy63]

The U.S. soldiers in Iraq are fighting by rules dictated by a moral and ethical compass unknown to enemy.
2.Posted by notblue at 11:32 AM : Nov 27, 2007

LMAO. That compass is presently unknown to the US and the Geneva Convention and our own Military manuals also. 2004--White Phosphorus used directly on civilians in Fallujah by the US military.

Rendition

Concentration camps

Kidnapping and torture

Cruel and unusual treatment in captivity

shooting up bodies and displaying corpses on tv

Coercion by kidnap, intimidation, rape of families to get info

We don''t follow or respect our own rules of engagement--so why should anyone else?

[smiley676]

SearingTruth
What do you mean not true? It is very true that without our forces you wouldn''t have the right to free speech.

And are you really comparing Bush to Stalin? Haven''t read your history books in a while, hmmm?

I don''t like Bush as a president. But really, our troops are defending us. If we let cruel and inhuman men control other countries, they will try to control ours. THINK HITLER! If we don''t make the first stand, we lose before we even start.

Our troops aren''t over there trying to be inhumane. Yes, sometimes innocent lives are lost and that is horrible and tragic and I wish that weren''t the case. But to imply that our troops are over there just to be cruel is a simplistic and infantile argument.