Comments on: Nobel Winner Apologizes For Race Remarks

DNA Pioneer James Watson "Mortified" He's Quoted As Saying Africans Are Less Intelligent

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 10:32 PM : Oct 19, 2007

LOL, I''m with you now,, (Old timers disease)

[hawksprings]

Evolutionists are trying to have it both ways.

Their evolutionary theory tells them that it''s very possible and probable that the races have evolved differently and to different levels of intelligence, but Political Correctness forbids them from saying it outloud, so they believe one thing and say another.

[iceman_1960]

"Got any more? I love "Yogisms".
- Posted by Toolmangler at 08:24 PM : Oct 19, 2007

Yogi Berra, praising the amenities at a certain hotel:

"The towels there were so thick I could hardly close my suitcase."

[iceman_1960]

"Hate to do this to ya" Ice, miners should = minors"
- Posted by Toolmangler at 08:22 PM : Oct 19, 2007

That would violate the child labor laws, wouldn"t it ?

I was punning on Miners ("boring people" - those who bore holes in the earth) and the familiar "Keep Out Of Reach Of Minors" seen on pharmeceutical warnings.

So "Avoid Boring People" became "Keep Out Of Reach Of Miners."

Is this whole explanation starting to get boring ?

[glaswolf]

Gallileo caved in to the popes of catholicism. Now Watson caves in to the popes of political correctness. I suppose this means the blacks have to blame themselves for accepting the false theories to mis social engineer their peoples for five decades. Since we''re all equal, we will have to close down welfare and other special programs to help low IQ folk, since the bell curve centers are irrelevant. Equality is being used to justify prejudice.

[formrusmcsgt]

Got any more? I love "Yogisms".

Posted by Toolmangler at 08:24 PM : Oct 19, 2007

Yogi''s daughter, in her biography of her Dad, cites several. For example:

The Yankees were in spring training in Florida and Yogi exited a hotel elevator wearing a Hawaiian shirt, white pants, white patent leather shoes and belt and a Panama hat.

A lady rushed across the lobby and said "Yogi, you look cool".

To which he responded, "You don''t look so hot yourself".

[toolmangler-2009]

If people don"t want to come out to the ballpark, nobody"s going to stop them."
- Yogi Berra (as told to Jethro Bodine)

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 06:05 PM : Oct 19, 2007


Got any more? I love "Yogisms"..

[toolmangler-2009]

(It could also mean, "Keep out of reach of Miners.")

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 05:42 PM : Oct 19, 2007


Hate to do this to ya'' Ice, miners should = minors

[formrusmcsgt]

I can''''t understand how in this world a guy who is supposed to be an intelligent scientist, could have made those expressions.

Posted by adian1 at 05:49 PM : Oct 19, 2007

He wouldn''t be the first person who, although extremely gifted in one area, possesses no common sense.

[robertkjjj]

Once again, another brilliant and honest man forced to cave under the weight of all the PC bullsh*t thrown at him from naive liberal whites and militant blacks. It is a sad day when we demand that science make us feel good, rather than just tell us the facts.
We are going NOWHERE as a country so long as political correctness has this insidious stranglehold on us.

[my2centss]

Charles Darwin writes it, and it is taught in schools. It still makes me wonder how evolution can be taught in schools as politically correct as we are. Then again, we pick and choose which of his notes we print in text books.

[iceman_1960]

"If people don"t want to come out to the ballpark, nobody"s going to stop them."

- Yogi Berra (as told to Jethro Bodine)

[iceman_1960]

This one sounds like a Bushism:

"Some years earlier [Watson] was quoted in a newspaper as saying, "If you could find the gene which determines sexuality and a woman decides she doesn''t want a homosexual child, well, let her."

That reminds me of Yogi Berra"s, "If people don"t want to come to the ball park, let "em."

[iceman_1960]

"Jim has a penchant for making outrageous comments that are basically poking society in the eye," Dr. Francis Collins.

Sorry.

Anne Coulter"s defenders already tried this excuse, and Don Imus"s defenders before that.

It doesn"t work.

Time to give the Lindsay Lohan defense a try: "He would never have said that if he hadn"t been drinking at the time."

Rehab ! Think Rehab !!

[adian1-2009]

If this Mr. Watson made such affirmations and statements without scientific proof, then he desrves the strongest rejection. I can''t understand how in this world a guy who is supposed to be an intelligent scientist, could have made those expressions. I wonder if what was in the back of his mind was to diministh world respect for the Nobel Prizes because one was awarded to Al Gore, a Democrat, or to hurt Barak Obama, our black presidential candidate. Or is it that senility caught up with him?

[iceman_1960]

"James Watson"s new book is called "Avoid Boring People" ... it must be an autobiography because I cannot think of anyone more boring than a racist ...
- Posted by phil-in-Fin at 04:32 PM : Oct 19, 2007

THe words "Avoid Boring People" can be taken two different ways:

"Don"t bore people," or "Stay away from people who bore you."

(It could also mean, "Keep out of reach of Miners.")

[alphaa10-2009]

rehink said, "He may be a racist, he may not."
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We read above how dumbfounded Watson professed to be about his own words, as reported in the press. So, the question becomes, did Watson say what he is reported to have said? And equally importantly, was he quoted correctly in context (ie. did he mean what he "said"?

One already known for injudicious statements in the past might be suspected of simply having said too much in a trusting interview context. In that case, the fault is not the interviewer''s.

But if the interviewer quoted Watson incorrectly, then Watson need do no more than explain what he actually said, and other comments of his which lend support to his defense.

What Watson does not know is whether the interviewer has his comments on tape. This might force Watson more energetically to clarify his position, regardless of what the tape might indicate.

Faculty parties are rife with people speaking out of turn with remarks they regret later. This is a human, not scientific trait. Watson probably should be forgiven his human foibles, if this turns out to be the case.

[cdfoxtrot]

Whatever the merits of his argument, why is it that anyone who voices dissent, in today''s world, whether it is about this issue, or Israel, or any other other taboo issue, is immediately vilified and made to make a humiliating public apology? Why attack the messenger? Wouldn''t it be better for mankind to debate and possibly disprove the argument? Whatever happened to intellectual curiosity?

[iceman_1960]

"Iceman_1960 it"s not Jethro Clampet, its Jethro Bodine....he is the nephew of Jed Clampet.....different names. LOL"
- Posted by mitch0927 at 04:40 PM : Oct 19, 2007

Thanks.


(I feel like such an idiot...)

[foghamar]

Regarding I.Q. testing - it is horrendously flawed. I.Q. testing is culturally based. One of my undergraduate studies included psychometrics (design and administration of testing to ascertain I.Q. or mental illness) What most people don''t know is that an Anglo child will end up testing as retarded using the "chitlins" test. Hence, children from non-English speaking and non-Western cultures often don''t test out very well in Anglo oriented cultures. The reverse is also true when it comes to Anglo children in non-English speaking cultures. In addition, unless an individual is fully acculturated into a new culture it will still appear that they are not functioning at a normal I.Q. level. For instance, in the case of "slave culture" American blacks, many are not acculturated to dominant white society and may appear socially or intellectually retarded when tested. However, when given a culturally relevant test they generally have no more incidence of intellectual retardation than anyone else. I''m not sure this is a genetic marker issue, though - it may be a nature v. nurture issue. Further, it is hardly racist to observe that different evolutionary pressures will sharpen some observations which are required for the purposes of survival. I can no more identify the myriad kinds of snow the circumpolar people recognize than I could pilot a cargo plane.