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U.K. Paper: Industries Backed Parent's Court Case To Keep "Inconvenient Truth" Out Of Schools

[hawksprings]

"You know what Democrats want? Attention. They are not the scientists, inventors or visionaries. They didn''''''''t invent the car, the airplane, and USE every invention INCLUDING the net, pushed and backed by CONSERVATIVES. You people are at once, hilarious, and at the same time, simply sad"

[hawksprings]

...their complete loss of memory.
Posted by alphaa10

Omigosh alphaa, how many times did Mrs. Clinton say she didn''t remember when she was testifying?

You probably don''t remember.

[hawksprings]

"You know what Democrats want? Attention. They are not the scientists, inventors or visionaries. They didn''''t invent the car, the airplane, and USE every invention INCLUDING the net, pushed and backed by CONSERVATIVES. You people are at once, hilarious, and at the same time, simply sad"

californiar, I did that so you could see how ridiculous your post reads.

[alphaa10-2009]

hawksprings said, "But the INCONVENIENT TRUTH is that (Dems) said THE SAME THINGS ABOUT WMD in IRAQ before Bush was ever elected President."
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You mean, appointed president by a GOP-stacked majority of the US Supreme Court, which rubber-stamped a GOP effort to halt the Florida vote count?

Dems not only groused about Saddam, but claimed they knew he had belligerent intentions. What they did not do, however, was (1) claim iron-clad proof Saddam was preparing to attack the US (2) urge congress to write a carte blanche authorization for invasion (3) start an orchestrated public relations campaign of distorted intel to justify an invasion on which they ALREADY had decided and planned well in advance.

As for your comments about the Dems mascot/symbol, the donkey was chosen when Jackson wanted to show his stubbornness in refusing to re-charter the National Bank. However, in terms of gross output of mascot droppings, your pachyderm mascot beats all contenders in sheer volume of exhaust / BS. Which continues, of xourse, to this day. The only area in which GOP witnesses before congress do not live up to their mascot billing is their complete loss of memory.

[formrusmcsgt]

But the INCONVENIENT TRUTH is that Algore, Slick Willy, Peloozy, Kennedy, and the rest of the leaders of the Party of the Jack-Asss symbol said THE SAME THINGS ABOUT WMD in IRAQ before Bush was ever elected President.

So if you''''re going to say Bush lied us in to a war, then you have to concede all the Dembots listed above lied us in to a war as well.

Posted by hawksprings at 11:25 PM : Oct 14, 2007

Nice try, hawksprings, and it might even work on some, but there are two big gaping holes in your scenario as presented.

First, Clinton, et.al. made comments regarding stopping Iraq''s suspected WMD developement, sure, but what you don''t say is that inresponse Saddam permitted inspections. Case closed.

Secondly, claiming that someone who threatens action is as responsible for someone else''s actions as the person(s) who actually performed the act is the ranting of a lunatic.

[rudy654-2009]

But the other INCONVENIENT TRUTH is that Algore LIED in his movie to try and create hysteria about the climate varying like it has done for millenia. - hawksprings.

No he didn''t lie. The science is there and is overwhelmingly accepted. I have reviewed it several times. I don''t consider Limbogg, Hannity and others to be credible sources. There may be some unanswered questions, but the only people lying are those trying to scare people about being responsible for the pollution we put in the environment.

[rudy654-2009]

The Observer has established that Dimmock''s case actually received support from a network of business interests, including those with links to the fuel and mining industries, as well as a local Conservative Party figure. According to Electoral Commission records, nearly all funding for the New Party came from a mining concern, Cloburn Quarry Limited in Lanarkshire, which contributed almost 1 million pounds between 2004 and 2006. The company''s owner, Robert Durward, is also chairman of the New Party, and is a long-time critic of environmentalists.
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So this was just a political game, supposedly using a concerned father? And all the time he was being funded by some very dark characters? LOL! Dig a little and what you find may surprise the heck out of you. These greedy corporations have found a way to politize even the best of science, especially when it might cause them to lose money. So sad. It makes a person wonder.

[hawksprings]

MyIDonCBS,
Your situational ethics are very transparent, because it''s ok in your mind for Algore to lie and exagerate to create hysteria and fear, but it''s wrong for others to do so, implying that Bush lied about Iraq.

But the INCONVENIENT TRUTH is that Algore, Slick Willy, Peloozy, Kennedy, and the rest of the leaders of the Party of the Jack-Asss symbol said THE SAME THINGS ABOUT WMD in IRAQ before Bush was ever elected President.

So if you''re going to say Bush lied us in to a war, then you have to concede all the Dembots listed above lied us in to a war as well.


But the other INCONVENIENT TRUTH is that Algore LIED in his movie to try and create hysteria about the climate varying like it has done for millenia.
And the other sick part of this is that while Algore is telling us all how WE need to change how we live, Algore has multiple homes, and a mansion with an outdoor heated pool that uses TWENTY TIMES the energy of the average home.
But give Algore some carbon credit: He INTENDED to install solar panels someday.

The Global Effort to scare us all about the climate changing is a scam.

And that''s no lie.

[myidoncbs]

hawksprings says "lies are lies, no matter who helps reveal them."

In the case of "Al Gore''s lies", the situation is that the movie exaggerated a few points. None of that changes the fact that the message of the movie is 100% TRUE. All documentaries select examples to illustrate points. In this case, some of the selected examples were not 100% appropriate, but that does NOT invalidate the point they were trying to make.

Furthermore, your statement ignores something very important: CONTEXT. All lies are lies, but some are much more important than others. For example, repugs love to point out that Bill Clinton lied when he said he didn''t "have s3x with that woman" (of course, it is completely true if you define "s3x" as "intercourse", but that doesn''t really matter because he knew what they were asking). OTOH, The Great Decider decided to LIE to Congress and the American people about why he wanted to attack, invade, and forever occupy Iraq. This lie seems to be on a whole different level, considering that it has led to 3829 dead US soldiers and countless thousands of dead Iraqis. So, I''d have to say that all lies are not equal. Some are simple exaggerations, some are the "little lies" we all tell to keep a marriage from falling apart, and some are catastrophic world-changing invitations to the end of all life on this planet.

In this case, it DOES matter who bankrolled the attack on Mr. Gore''s film, because it demonstrates that the attack is political, not scientific.

[myidoncbs]

USAyesterday makes a HUGE MISTAKE when he says, "nuclear energy is the cleanest energy in the world"!

The byproduct of nuclear energy plants is tons of radioactive sludge which will be lethal to all human and animal life for hundreds of thousands of years! We have no safe way to store it, no safe way to transport it, no where to put it if we do transport it, and currently, no way to protect it from being used by terrorists, either!. Unless and until these problems are solved, Nuclear Power is GUARANTEED death.

Don''t be a fo-ol, USAyesterday!