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[navyretired2]

Those folks you were around weren't "true" islamists, just as supposed "christians" who don't follow the word of the bible aren't "true" christians. They're offshoots of the real deal. I'm not religious, and I choose not to belong to any religion, which is a right I have as an American, and I love exercising it.

Somebody can have morals and values and NOT be religious or extremist. Nor am I democrat or republican, somebody can also have views on government without belonging to one of the two ruling parties.

I don't drink the kool-aid or the al-kookda-aid. Any document that decrees it's followers to make war or kill, should be banned as a guiding document in this modern world.

[tuckerndfw]

I don't claim...it's in their holy guiding document. Are you saying those passages in the quran don't really exist? Are you? Sure sounds like that to me.

Answer that if you can.

Posted by NavyRetired2 at 09:03 PM : Jul 31, 2007

I am not going to waste my time debating the Quran or the Bible.

But, I assure you that if you cherry picked the Bible the same way the idiot cherry picked the Quran, you could "prove" the same thing about Judaism and Christianity.

But, if you prefer propaganda over facts, that's your choice.

But, do not expect intelligent people to agree with you.

As a matter of fact, not only do I not agree with that other idiot "quoting" the Quran or irrelevant comments made by Muslim extremists, I consider him (it?) an idiot.

Unless you concede that Pat ("Nuke the State Dept.") Robertson speaks for ALL Christians, you cannot logically argue that anyone speaks for all Muslims.

Islam is NOT a monolithic religion. NO ONE speaks for all Muslims. No one.

[navyretired2]

"They sure missed a great opportunity, if, as you and that other idiot claim, they are required to kill (or convert) all non-Muslims."

I don't claim...it's in their holy guiding document. Are you saying those passages in the quran don't really exist? Are you? Sure sounds like that to me.

Answer that if you can.

[tuckerndfw]

I said those you were around weren't "fundamentalists" at the true nature of the word. But you go ahead and ignore the basis of the argument and blindly ignore the facts. Your world's more comfy that way I reckon.

Posted by NavyRetired2 at 08:53 PM : Jul 31, 2007

Riyadh is the home of millions of people.

As a matter of fact, once you leave Riyadh, it is a LONG way to anywhere else.

You are correct that I never encountered anyone who demanded I convert or die. Given the fact "westerners" were fairly obvious by our dress (most, not all, Saudi men wore the traditional dress), it would have been fairly easy to single us out.

And, my family and I routinely frequented "souks" (open air markets) that appeared to be frequented by lots and lots of Saudis.

They sure missed a great opportunity, if, as you and that other idiot claim, they are required to kill (or convert) all non-Muslims.

At no time did anyone ever mention the topic of religion other than when my Saudi friend politely inquired if it would offend me if he gave me a Christmas present.

No one ever came to my door demanding that I convert or face hell, as has occurred countless times in the US. Of course, they are those good Christian folks, so that's different, I suppose.

Propaganda is propaganda. Muslim extremists are a tiny minority of all Muslims, same as with Christians or Jews.

[navyretired2]

"Posted by tuckerndfw at 08:49 PM : Jul 31, 2007"

I never said or implied you didn't do any of those things. Moron. Learn to read.

I said those you were around weren't "fundamentalists" at the true nature of the word. But you go ahead and ignore the basis of the argument and blindly ignore the facts. Your world's more comfy that way I reckon.

[tuckerndfw]

Posted by NavyRetired2 at 08:28 PM : Jul 31, 2007

Yeah, you're right.

I didn't really live in the Sulmaniya (sp?) district of Riyadh. (near the old Riyadh airport, which is now a military airbase)

I didn't really hear those US Air Force AWAC's taking off from and landing at the Saudi airbase that also doubled as the Riyadh airport at the time.

I didn't really have a very devout Muslim Egyptian couple as neigbhors in our compound.

I didn't really drink my homemade wine sitting by the pool with my good Saudi friend, whose daddy was an imam, while he drank Pepsi. (Coca-cola was not allowed in KSA, nor were Fords, due to their connections with Israel).

I didn't really see all those Bedouins driving arouund in Toyota pickups with camels riding in the back.

I didn't really see that brand new (empty) apartment building built by the Saudi government for the Bedouins. But, they refused to live in it, preferring their tents instead.

I just made all that stuff up so I could argue with morons on the Internet.

Whatever you say, NavyRetired.

But, I was there, you were not.

Ergo: You do not know what you are talking about. I do.

[iceman_1960]

REL Post by Iceman_1960 at 08:35 PM : Jul 31, 2007

A bad joke.

One that should not be dignified with a response.

[ban_islam]

Tks for the link/quotes ban. Posted by NavyRetired2
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Happy to help-I win more soldiers for my cause of defending the West by arming them with the truth. ;)

[ban_islam]

But, that is totally irrelevant to the fact that I worked on a daily basis with some of the most fundamentalist Muslims on the planet and they were nothing like what is portrayed in western media.OBL represent Muslims like Pat ("nuke the State Dept.") Robertson represents Christians.
Posted by tuckerndfw

Your personal experience means di.ck all. We're talking about a fascist/totalitarian ideology that seeks to unite the world under one barbaric religion-something they're working like busy beavers to achieve as we speak. I like how you side-stepped the case of massive bigotry, hate and violence perpetrated by muslims against non-muslims.

You follow and cover-up (put lipstick on this pig) a very intolerant backwards ideology and are only convincing Americans more and more that the 'moderate' muslims guys are just as much a part of this 'Islam racket' as the radical OBL nuts. I think that's great-then they'll clue in and realize its not just the radicals that are the problem, but the whole ****** religion.

[iceman_1960]

RE: Post by ban_islam at 08:31 PM : Jul 31, 2007

We know why ban_islam, the Irish butt doctor, really hates Islam.

"Homosexuality is a legal crime and forbidden in most of Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc... Since the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran, the Iranian government has executed more than 4000 people charged with homosexual acts. In Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban homosexuality went from a capital crime to one that it punished with fines and prison sentence."

- Wikipedia