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Lt. Col. Stephen Abraham Is First Member Of Military Panel To Challenge Guantanamo Bay Hearings

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by ubrew12 June 23, 2007 12:28 PM EDT
"Cynamon said he fears the officer's military future could be in jeopardy. %u201CFor him to do this was a courageous thing but it's probably an assurance of career suicide,%u201D he said.
Abraham said he had no intention of leaving the service. %u201CI have no reason to doubt that the actions I have taken or will take uphold the finest traditions of the military,%u201D he said. "

Brave words, but I'm afraid the first guy is right. The fear over speaking out is the real corruption an administration like Bush's develops, from the top down, only 'loyal Bushies' will be tolerated. It trickles down and infests the rest of us, until the whole society is infected. That sense, that none of us has the freedom to really say what we think (ie, that names are being taken), is what I hate the most about this administration.
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by pwrslm June 23, 2007 12:28 PM EDT
Speaking of Congress, this is the bright and shinning representation that Demoncrats elected;

Nancy Pelosi Supprts the (Canadian) Troops
By Mark Noonan at 01:42 AM
Michelle Malkin has the screen shot from Pelosi's website showing a Canadian sailor in a page dedicated to stating how much Pelosi will do for American military personnel. This is the second time this has happened - you might recall that back in 2006 the Democrats also ran a patriotic photo...of Canadian soldiers.

Now, nothing wrong with Canadian military personnel...I'm certain they are great and derserve the best of their country...but it just seems to me that the Speaker of the United States House of Representative should have staffers familiar enough with the US military to spot the difference between our military and others'. The fact the Speaker doesn't have such a person on staff demonstrates just how far removed from the day to day reality of America the Speaker is.

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by pwrslm June 23, 2007 12:22 PM EDT
Oh get real folks.

Its not the Executive office running these tribunals. Its the US Military, and they use rules and guidlines given to them by the US Congress.

If anyone is to blame, its them. The Uniform Code of Military Justice is 10 U.S.C., Chapter 47. The President can not make these laws, only Congress has that authority.

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by omega39-2009 June 23, 2007 12:04 PM EDT
A kangaroo court ran by a kangaroo administration, no surprises here.
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by grumpas June 23, 2007 11:56 AM EDT
Why does this information not surprise me in the slightest??????? They honestly wonder why no one believes a word they have to say.
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by drummer94 June 23, 2007 11:49 AM EDT
"...vague and incomplete intelligence..." Now where have I heard THAT before. And SharnCedar, up yours ******.
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by panhandlpete June 23, 2007 11:47 AM EDT
Don't be surprised if we see another staged 'terror' attack before too long!!!
Posted by FeelFree1 at 04:08 AM : Jun 23, 2007

That should be everyone's greatest concern. As we move closer and closer to 08, and the REPUBS see their king dethroned, expect to hear more and more FEAR stories for that is their primary tactic to control the sheepies (the true cowards for they want someone else to protect them and sacrifice their lives).

Lt. Col. Abraham surely made a great sacrifice for his country. He has my admiration for his actions. Surely, there are MANY, MANY others out in the national employment who could tell the TRUTH. I lost my admiration for Colin Powell when I saw him recently on a talk show, and he was wading backwater to defend his speech to the UN which paved the way to invade Iraq.

Such an uproar over talk radio hosts recently with Trent Lott...."we have to address the problem". Surely, he is not advocating tampering with FREE SPEECH..... Where do they go from here? To Bloggers? And, I do so enjoy knowing what others think.....even those with whom I do not agree!!!


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by formrusmcsgt June 23, 2007 11:10 AM EDT
"tribunal members relied on vague and incomplete intelligence while being pressured to rule against detainees, often without any specific evidence."

Gee, makes you think the tribunals are patterned after the Gestapo, eh?
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by sharncedar June 23, 2007 10:25 AM EDT
Honestly, take a look in the mirror. What Americans do you know that have belief about things like evidence, fairness, and due process of law, other than as vague superstitions? Americans I know are nice people but they really don't know or care about the basic principles of freedom. The Gitmo process is pretty much the same process we use in credit card applications, patent law suits, business dealings, personal dealings, etc. Bush doesn't represent the ambition and cruelty of some radical right, he represents the laziness and lack of knowlege and empathy of the average American. He is precisely the average American. He is as stupid as you are, as hasty as you are, as ignorant and predujiced as you are, as irrational and unable to think logically as you are. He is you. You are him. Bush is the average American. Gitmo is the typical lazy and insubstantial approach of Americans to important decisions.

Wouldn't it be nice if it was as you people imagine, if Bush was some bad guy who was worse than yourselves, why, that's eaxactly the kind of thing Bush wishes for. He wishes there were some "bad guys" worse than him to justify his random and dull life.

Look around you, I live in Gitmo right now, and you are the jailers. Stop ragging on Bush.
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by CBSTV June 23, 2007 10:14 AM EDT
How interesting to read this report. Earlier in the week, I received a chain e-mail from someone espousing that the Abu Ghraib incidents were little more than a "college hazing" and that the Guantanamo "detainees" ought to be grateful that they are being treated well. Why should we Americans care when "these people attacked us on 9/11?" the writer asked.

The United States has lost so much credibility under the Bush administration. What a terribly sad state of affairs.
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by mcvet June 23, 2007 9:26 AM EDT
There have been some dark days in our history, some times when this nation and its basis for greatness, the CONSTITUTION, have been shaken to the core. Never have we experienced a time like this, a time when someone has been "Elected" to the office of President and he, along with the real evil here, D-I-C-K Cheney, make themselves Dictators. This man, Mr. Cheney, is without a doubt the most Un American Leader to ever sit in Washington. Bush? He's just a poor simple minded Red Neck who is no different than all the rest. He's an enabler for Cheney. Sieg Heil Bush
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by neoconrcrazy June 23, 2007 9:14 AM EDT
%u201CWhat were purported to be specific statements of fact lacked even the most fundamental earmarks of objectively credible evidence,%u201D Abraham


seems more than the majority of Americans are revolted by this administrations' ignorance of what makes us great - not smart bombs - but the US Constitution.

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by smirk5 June 23, 2007 9:02 AM EDT
"tribunal members relied on vague and incomplete intelligence"

This is what Bushies do.
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by searingtruth June 23, 2007 7:55 AM EDT
"My simple request was justice."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
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by j_flood June 23, 2007 7:46 AM EDT
LTC Abraham sounds like the kind of person that should move from the Pentagon to the Justice Department - they still call it the 'Justice' Department don't they?
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by feelfree1 June 23, 2007 7:08 AM EDT
Thank God! The wheels are starting to come off of the Bush regime terror trolley!!!

Don't be surprised if we see another staged 'terror' attack before too long!!!
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by searingtruth June 23, 2007 6:07 AM EDT
Mirror

My friends, sometimes the most difficult thing about fighting evil is realizing that it actually exists, and then unambiguously and forcefully calling it what it is.

History shows time and time again that one of evils greatest strengths is its ability to disguise itself as good, or at least a temporary necessity, until that last fatal moment when its revelation becomes clear, indisputable, and inescapable.

So today let us take a clear and unadulterated look into the mirror at ourselves.

Just six years ago we were one of the most respected and admired defenders of democracy and human rights in history. Respected not only by our friends, but even begrudgingly by most of our enemies. In fact, even the fantastic power of our military paled in comparison to the overwhelming might of our moral authority.

Today we are a nation that operates secret prisons occupied by anonymous inmates, illegally abducted and held indefinitely without charge or representation. We are guilty of torture. We are guilty of murder. We are guilty of preemptive war of conquest. We are guilty of the wholesale surveillance of our population, suppressing all hope of privacy and free dissent. And we are guilty of disgracing our nation through the abandonment of even our most basic precepts of morality.

If this is not evil, then nothing we have ever fought against is evil, and nothing we have ever fought for is good.

Excerpt from A Future of the Brave

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
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by June 23, 2007 6:03 AM EDT
Lt. Col. Stephen Abraham will be the White House's next target to silence him one way or another
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by searingtruth June 23, 2007 5:57 AM EDT
"When everything is secret, everything is legal."
SearingTruth

"Innocence is muted by cruel withdrawal of voice."
SearingTruth

"We have failed in our duty to provide an example to the world of a just government."
SearingTruth

"Cruelty and brutality are evidence of evil, not strength."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com
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by hmmagain June 23, 2007 5:38 AM EDT
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