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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:54 AM EDT
All Sarcasm intended in the previous post. More of Martin Luthers kind words.

Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:

First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire...

Second, that all their books-- their prayer books, their Talmudic writings, also the entire Bible-- be taken from them, not leaving them one leaf, and that these be preserved for those who may be converted...

Third, that they be forbidden on pain of death to praise God, to give thanks, to pray, and to teach publicly among us and in our country...

Fourth, that they be forbidden to utter the name of God within our hearing. For we cannot with a good conscience listen to this or tolerate it...

-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)

This sounds like Ahmajadeen, Hitler, David Duke, August Krieves, OBL etc.
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by ubrew12 June 17, 2007 2:52 AM EDT
"U.S. Chooses Sides In Palestinian Struggle"

Please don't say U.S.! Our commander-in-thief says support Fatah, so that's what the country does, even though Hamas has strong support among the Palestinian people (because Fatah has long since sold them out). If we support democracy abroad, then we CANNOT go against the will of the people, ANY people, even Palestinians. To do so invites BLOWBACK, as if there hasn't been enough of THAT in the Middle East recently already. We should remain neutral, its pretty obvious we support Israel anyway. I'm not surprised that BUSH hasn't been cured of his egotistical proclivity of thinking he matters to the Middle East anyway, but the rest of us can and should do better. IT IS NOT OUR FIGHT, LET THESE PEOPLE FIND THEIR OWN CONVOLUTED WAY INTO THE FUTURE!
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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:48 AM EDT
Yes this is a good Christian Martin Luther

In Mein Kampf, Hitler listed Martin Luther as one of the greatest reformers. And similar to Luther in the 1500s, Hitler spoke against the Jews. The Nazi plan to create a German Reich Church laid its bases on the "Spirit of Dr. Martin Luther." The first physical violence against the Jews came on November 9-10 on Kristallnacht (Crystal Night) where the Nazis killed Jews, shattered glass windows, and destroyed hundreds of synagogues, just as Luther had proposed. In Daniel Johah Goldhagen's book, Hitler's Willing Executioners, he writes:

"One leading Protestant churchman, Bishop Martin Sasse published a compendium of Martin Luther's antisemitic vitriol shortly after Kristallnacht's orgy of anti-Jewish violence. In the foreword to the volume, he applauded the burning of the synagogues and the coincidence of the day: 'On November 10, 1938, on Luther's birthday, the synagogues are burning in Germany.' The German people, he urged, ought to heed these words 'of the greatest antisemite of his time, the warner of his people against the Jews.'"

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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:43 AM EDT
You cant figure out that the Koran tells muslims to do this stuff, thats why your so confused. You think Christians are following the teachings of Jesus when you point out the acts of men? Wake up, stop playing the halfwit.
Posted by pwrslm at


I have never stated that the bible says to kill non Christians or Jews. Martin Luther twisted religion just as David Duke, August Krieves etc. Read Martin Luthers words on Jews.
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:42 AM EDT
%u201CFighting is prescribed for you, and you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not%u201D 2:216

The koran "tells" muslims to fight.

"Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah, whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him a reward of great (value)" 4:74

The koran encourages them to fight for rewards of great value


%u201CSeize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.%u201D 4:89

to sieze them, and slay them

so where are your examples of the bible telling christians to do the same?

cmon boy, be a man
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by usa1881 June 17, 2007 2:41 AM EDT
Tool,

Interesting note about the Israelis having 100s of bombs...and willing to use them.

You can bet your sweet bippy they will.

I remember being up at a forward post when "Desert Storm" went down, and receiving the news Saddam had fired missiles at Tel-Aviv. For about two days my buddies and I kept looking over the horizon for mushroom clouds to the North. If one of those d%mn scuds continued nerve gas or had been configurated into a "dirty" bomb, chances are we'd never worry about Iraq today.

It was close. D&mn close. And even closer then most of us know. If that nutcase Ahmedinejedad tries anything stupid, he can kiss his country goodbye. And by the way, you won't have to worry about those Palestinians either. Once a card drops, the whole Islamonazi deck of cards will collapse with it.
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:37 AM EDT
How many Jews were killed in the Crusades by Christians? Martin Luther never ever stated that Jews were a subclass of people equivalent to dogs? BS.
Posted by radiob

Why dont you get your head out of your duff and use it like its supposed to be used? Show us where inte Christian Bible does it direct Christians to kill non Christians if they dont submit to our superiority, let alone, how about just one verse telling Christians to slaughter the Jews? Where is it? It does not exist smart boy. Why do you suggest differently? Because of your ignorance.

You cant figure out that the Koran tells muslims to do this stuff, thats why your so confused. You think Christians are following the teachings of Jesus when you point out the acts of men? Wake up, stop playing the halfwit.
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by feelfree1 June 17, 2007 2:35 AM EDT
radiob,

Except for neglecting to place the word 'fact' in front of its posts, 'USA1881' offers us plently of other examples of what I am referring to.
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:34 AM EDT
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection (9:29).
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by usa1881 June 17, 2007 2:32 AM EDT
FeelJihadi,

How's Gaza these days? Are you enjoying the firefights? or the mass killings of your beloved Islamonazis slaughtered by other Islamonazis?

Oh, I'm sure you'll blame Israel. I'd love to hear you try and blame the United States Army, little boy.

Now, go back to your crayons and your Arabic copy of "Mein Kampf"...
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by feelfree1 June 17, 2007 2:32 AM EDT
radiob,

Hint-

When someone claims 'fact' followed by an unsupported assertion, the information following the word 'fact' remains an unsupported assertion, which, by definition, is not a 'fact' at all.
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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:30 AM EDT
Why do you post such ignorance?
Posted by pwrslm

How many Jews were killed in the Crusades by Christians? Martin Luther never ever stated that Jews were a subclass of people equivalent to dogs? BS.

I suppose that you would just call for the elimination of all Muslims what is the difference between your thinking and the thinking of Ahmajadeen, OBL,David Duke, Hitler, August Krieves,Martin Luther etc. there is none.
Your views have no tolerance of other religions or races and probaly genders.
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by gabulldog66 June 17, 2007 2:30 AM EDT
Why we give money to third world countries is beyond me. If your kid spits on you, do you give him his allowance? I don't, if you do it's your choice. But when he spits on you again infront of your parents, you have to again give him his allowance. Don't you? I mean you did expect it. Correct?
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:29 AM EDT
Over the last 1400 years, 270 million non-believers were murdered by Muslim jihadists.
Islam destroyed the Christian Middle East and Christian North Africa. It is estimated
that upwards of 60 million Christians were slaughtered during this conquest.
Also, half the Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus murdered.
Islamic jihad also destroyed over 10 million Buddhists.
In other words, Islam is a killing machine.


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by feelfree1 June 17, 2007 2:28 AM EDT
radiob,

Re: "Reading this backwards? It is not accusing Sterhell of Fascist tendencys he is accusing Jouvenel of having them."

I see. Well this sounds like a judgement call.

I don't follow as to why this would discredit the other information presented by this author, on this topic.
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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:26 AM EDT
Fact:

Israel had nothing to do with the creation of Hamas. The organization grew out of the ideology and practice of the Islamic fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood movement that arose in Egypt in the 1920s


Keyword is grew.
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:25 AM EDT
I know many Muslims and none of them believe the way that you describe. The Ahmajadeens,OBLs, do not represent them. Where specifically is it in the Koran that it calls for the killing of all that do not believe in the Koran? To say that Islam has not been violent is a lie just as to state that Christianty has not been violent is a lie.The real enemy wrest inside the darkened souls of man who will kill for the dominance of their beliefs over others with no moderation.
Posted by radiob at 11:21 PM : Jun 16, 2007

Thats BS.

Over 1400 years, all Islam did was massacre non muslims, for no other reason than they were not muslim.

Over 100 Million Hindu and Buddist were slaughtered by muslims between 1000 and 1200 bc. If Christianity did not rise to arms, they would have done the same thing to Europe.

Recent History testifies to the validity of the Korans edict for destruction.

Why do you post such ignorance?
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by feelfree1 June 17, 2007 2:23 AM EDT
radiob,

Re: "Israel had nothing to do with the creation of Hamas. The The organization grew out of the ideology and practice of the Islamic fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood movement that arose in Egypt in the 1920s."

Well, the author said so, so it must be true. No need for support.

Come on, 'radiob'. You are using an unsupported claim from 'United Jewish Communities' to bolster your position? Could we at least have the JINSA opinion too, so that we can form a 'centerist' perspective?!;-(
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by pwrslm June 17, 2007 2:22 AM EDT
Main events in Hamas' history
The Associated Press
Here are the main events in the history of the Hamas movement:
December 1987: First Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation erupts, and Yassin founds Hamas as an Islamic resistance movement against Israel.

1988: Hamas publishes manifesto calling for "holy war" to create an Islamic state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, including Israel, and challenging the Palestine Liberation Organization's claim as the sole representative of the Palestinian people.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-03-22-hamas-timeline_x.htm
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by radiob-2009 June 17, 2007 2:21 AM EDT
Dont tell me what you think. The only thing coming out of your mouth should be that you have no idea what islam truely is about, because you dont, or you would not play patsy games exposing your ignorance.
Posted by pwrslm


I know many Muslims and none of them believe the way that you describe. The Ahmajadeens,OBLs, do not represent them. Where specifically is it in the Koran that it calls for the killing of all that do not believe in the Koran? To say that Islam has not been violent is a lie just as to state that Christianty has not been violent is a lie.The real enemy wrest inside the darkened souls of man who will kill for the dominance of their beliefs over others with no moderation.
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