Comments on: U.S. Chooses Sides In Palestinian Struggle

President Plans To End Embargo And Send Money To Newly Formed Fatah-Only Government

[pastdue1]

This new crises only points out what voters must contemplate. Please America, look carefully at who you back for the next president. Do not go for inexperience. We have had 6 years of inexperience. Do not go for mediocre intelligence. Our nation could have weathered the inexperience if there had been even slightly above-average intelligence. Do not go for star-value. It only contributes to egotism ~ we see what that created, the "my way or the highway" mentality. America could have weathered the inexperience, the lack of intelligence and knowledge, if we had not had the egotism. This president lost the ability to learn from anyone or anything once he gained his star status. Remember, our next president does not have to be handsome, beautiful or even personable. He has to be smart, knowledgeable, have the ability to learn and be able to surround himself with bright knowledgeable people who will tell him the truth, not merely push their own agendas. He has to have people who can manage more than one crisis at a time. This president will leave our next president so many crises to manage. Please , remember, just because a candidate can make you laugh, looks good to your eye, can hug a minority convincingly, and can mouth "what the American people want", look deeper.

[radiob-2009]

Until today she has retured only the Sinai and poor Gaza which is no more than an "open-air prison".


Posted by neoconRcrazy


Some of the land was disputed as to ownership prior to the 1967 war when on 4/7/67 Syrian gunners fired on a farmer and his tractor. Point being that virtually no one on either side of this in power trust the other side to maintain peace and disputed borders or land ownership.Is not some of the poverty self inflicted? Is not some of the poverty inflicted by other Arab nations meddling?

[neoconrcrazy]

Illegal occupation & colonization of what land specifically?

Posted by radiob

israel had recognized borders dating from her 1948 UN statehood. In 1967, ostensibly to confront Nassar's "threat" she declared war and after having destroyed Nassar "army" and airforce and taking the Sinai, crossed her borders to agressively take control of the areas designated by the UN as Palestine - West Bank & Gaza. She also took the Golan from Syria and Sheeba Farm area from Lebanon.

Until today she has retured only the Sinai and poor Gaza which is no more than an "open-air prison".

[radiob-2009]

on the israeli side you have a mountain of violations - as the the "occupying power" in Palestine the outrages committed by the israeli will fill hundreds of pages but they all stem from one thing : illegal occupation & colonization.


Posted by neoconRcrazy


Illegal occupation & colonization of what land specifically? Have not the Palestinians along with the Arabs by not investing capital into the economy help create the problems? An Arab apartheid of themselves? The two primary investors in the Palestinian economy are the US and Israel whereas the Arab nations have contributed weaponary and training with which to wage war instead of creating a self sufficient economy.

[neoconrcrazy]

And your refrence is to the lands prior to the 1967 war or what lands?
Posted by radiob


the lands are those taken by israel during the 1967 conflict; Sinai was returned, but the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan (let's not even mention Gaza it's not worth it)

[neoconrcrazy]

To think that both sides (Israelis and Palestinians) have never violated international law is absurb - radiob

True but the crimes are on a different level.

on the one hand you have palestinian suicide bombers, the worst crime of which they are guilty.

on the israeli side you have a mountain of violations - as the the "occupying power" in Palestine the outrages committed by the israeli will fill hundreds of pages but they all stem from one thing : illegal occupation & colonization.

[radiob-2009]

without saying why - bcause they've stolen the lands of the palestinians.


Posted by neoconRcrazy


And your refrence is to the lands prior to the 1967 war or what lands? If not then how can you be arguing for the 62% of Israelis and Palestinians that want peace?

[neoconrcrazy]

Is it impartial??????? Without Bias or agenda????
Posted by radiob


Let's say it is israelis looking at themselves. Of course there are those who will reject outright anything which goes against their preconceptions.

But remember that over 60% of israelis want peace and they know they will have to return to their 1967 borders (with some modifications sure) but their will is not being respected.

When stones are thrown, it becomes attempted murder -

when a 4th of july "missle" is fired it becomes a declaration of war -

when 2 soldiers are kidnapped (israelis are holding 10'000 in jail without trial or accusations), it becomes a real war

imagine how we feel with bush scare tactics being used on us and then think how the israelis live continually hearing from their government "we're under attack" -

without saying why - bcause they've stolen the lands of the palestinians.

[radiob-2009]

I didn't. And besides, it's not the language which is important, it's the facts B'Tselem reports. And as for the facts, NGO doesn't contest anything. Strange?




Posted by neoconRcrazy


Lots of experts that claim they have the unbiased reports from NGO Monitor to B'tselem and everything in between. To think that both sides (Israelis and Palestinians) have never violated international law is absurb. The equilivent of stating that Wounded Knee or Abu Gharib did not occur.

[neoconrcrazy]

Is it impartial???????????????????????
Posted by radiob

NGO Monitor seems to be in the business of criticizing alot of groups.

NGO Monitor has criticized several international human rights organisations, such as Christian Aid (for its alleged "extensive involvement in anti-Israel propaganda campaigns", Human Rights Watch (for being "systematically and exceedingly biased", Amnesty International,Oxfam and Medecins Sans Frontieres.

I can only say, take a look for yourself and see if you find they use "demonizing language".

I didn't. And besides, it's not the language which is important, it's the facts B'Tselem reports. And as for the facts, NGO doesn't contest anything. Strange?