Comments on: U.S. Said To Squash Greenhouse Gas Cuts

Global Pact To Cut Emissions 20% By 2020 Faces White House Objections, Environmentalists Reveal

[cofmanaaron]

dipracer: you do know that the republican party controlled both houses of Congress from 1994-2006, right? Now, look in a science textbook on the matter , and any peer-reviewed science journal you can access, and you'll see that AS LONG AS YOU ACCEPT SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES, global warming is evidently real and human-caused.

[cofmanaaron]

Jimkun: As a geology student, I learned the really crazy thing is that there is pretty much 100% proof that global warming is substantial and mostly human-caused. Go to any state university and ask a professor about the subject and he's very likely to agree. Many of these people who don't believe in global warming are either brainwashed, ignorant, does not accept science (like the creationist crowd), or profit from the oil companies and polluting industries (like Bush and the Republican party.

[dlpracer]

The argument of "the Republican administration don't have to do anything because the Democratic administration wouldn't have done anything" sounds extremely kindergartenish.

Posted by jimkun at 12:48 PM : May 26, 2007

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Since reasoning isn't one of your strong points, I will go slow for YOU.

The "they didn't so we won't" argument is YOURS, not mine!

The point is, the BUSH-bashing over everything is tiring and without merit. How can Bush be even remotely responsible for global warming or its cures (if it needs a cure...that jury is still out) when it has been going on for decades. Or do you want to blame him for global cooling when that was the media's hysterical headline?

The last I checked, the government was run by three branches of government. Maybe you missed that class. The house and the senate were occupied by Dems and Repubs. And over the years, since I've been in the planet, the majority of both has been dominated by the Dems. If YOU are so naive to think (or not think) that the entire ills of the country fall on one man's shoulders, then you qualify for today's...

....IDIOT OF THE DAY AWARD.

Good luck

P.S. Name ONE environmental bill that hit Bush's desk, that he vetoed.

[cbs_oliver]

The policy of waging asymetric warfare for world domination is not just military it is also economic and environmental.

Many of those who are sufficiently priviledged will be able to weather global warming even while others are made extinct.

While it would seem that Christ's teachings would lead most Americans to abore such callous strategies that does not seem to be happening.

Perhaps this really is not a Christian country after all.

[jimkun]

The argument of "the Republican administration don't have to do anything because the Democratic administration wouldn't have done anything" sounds extremely kindergartenish. Let's grow up here. The point is we have (unfortunately) a Republican administration which has done nothing in the past two terms to significantly do anything to improve the environment.

He's basically done the same for the entire US as he did for Texas, when he was governor, which is nothing.*

People may say that they want 100% proof that greenhouse gases are the cause of global warming. Yes, perhaps we can wait 30 years until we have the 100% proof, and then we'll live in a world without polar ice caps, severe drought, massive food and clean water shortages... Or we can do something now knowing that anyway pollution is something we should be cutting back on anyway.

* Reference: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1525/is_6_84/ai_62896434

[dlpracer]

Unfortunately, Bush has never let something important like the Constitution stop him yet.

Posted by barbaraf4 at 12:30 PM : May 26, 2007

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...please give some DETAILS to your ridiculous statement. I know you folks who read the Daily Kos, and MoveOn.org and listen to Air America hate to be challenged, but humor me and please be specific.

Try again.

[prairiefox1]

SOUNDS LIKE A BIG LIE! THE USA'S CARBON FOOTPRINT IS LESS THAN BEFORE, CHINA AND SURROUNDING NATIONS HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED IT'S CARBON FOOTPRINT ALONG WITH THE SOUTH AMERICAN NATIONS! THIS HAS BEEN PUBLISHED!
GRANTED, WE NEED TO DO MORE ABOUT IT, BUT ON OUR OWN AND NOT TO THE DICTATES OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES!

[barbaraf4]

"It is important to note that Bush alone does not have the legal power to ratify the Kyoto Protocol. The Constitution allocates the power to ratify treaties to the United States Senate."
Posted by dlpracer at 11:41 AM : May 26, 2007

Unfortunately, Bush has never let something important like the Constitution stop him yet.

[dlpracer]

On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized, the U.S. Senate voted 95%u20130, (that's ALL SENATE DEMOCRATS for you ideologically-challenged) , that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States.

On November 12, 1998, VP Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations.

Any questions?

[sasi1-2009]

How any thinking person can still back Bush's idiotic decisions is beyond me. I totally agree with Carter, "Bush is the worst president in U.S. history". Of course he'd say I'm irrelevant also. He needs to be impeached before he does any more irrevocable damage. What a sad day it was when he was awarded the presidency in 2000. He didn't win; he was awarded.

[king77shaw]

the Republican Party platform -

ENERGY policy: Big Oil
FOREIGN policy: AIPAC
HEALTHCARE: Pharma
FISCAL policy: Wall St booms while the middle class starves
NATIONAL DEFENSE: perpetual war that will only profit the corporate war machine at the expense of the troops, their families and the hundreds of thousands of innocents that get slaughtered around the world because of Republican policies.

EMPLOYMENT: create plenty of good paying jobs - in China & India
EPA: Exxon-Mobil Protection Agency
EDUCATION: why ?, best to keep the masses stupid and gullible ..
RELIGION: best to educate with myth, more pliable than the truth -

... the middle class is insignificant to the Republican Party - they seek a ruling elite and a vast working poor which consolidates wealth and power for their corporate masters, leaving very little for "we the people". America is quickly becoming a third world country riddled with debt under Republican greedership.

[jumkey]

How many times do Republicans need to tell us they don't care about global warming to for us to be able to say "Republicans don't care about global warming"? There is no disagreement here. That is their position.

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong.

[dlpracer]

The European Union nations that have signed onto the Kyoto Protocol%u2014and regularly criticize the U.S. for failing to join them%u2014are falling considerably short of its requirements.

Despite the caps on carbon dioxide emissions,

Nearly every Western European nation has higher carbon emissions today than when the treaty was signed in 1997.

These emissions increases show no signs of leveling off.

Compliance with Kyoto%u2019s looming 2008%u20132012 targets will be all but impossible for most of these countries, and many are actually seeing their emissions rising faster than those in the U.S.

Nothing like "feel good" politics that accomplish little but provide sound bites for politicians as they are boarding their private jets...on both sides.

Hypocrites.

[dlpracer]

Just a few facts:

It is important to note that Bush alone does not have the legal power to ratify the Kyoto Protocol. The Constitution allocates the power to ratify treaties to the United States Senate. At this point, the US Senate has on more than one occasion voted against national climate change policies, most recently in 2003.

Now that the Dems are in power and pledged to change the evil ways of the Republicans, which way are you willing to bet they are going to vote.

Don't hold your breath.

[trumpetstuff]

It's time to make tea in the harbor again!

[rharrin1]

bush is opposed because it will hurt his cronies BIG BUSINESS BOTTOM LINE.

Are we still giving oil companies TAX BREAKS ???

[sjc_1]

You can anticipate an alternate response from conservatives if a more liberal group were in charge of the decision. The conservatives would say something like "see, those liberals give away the farm every chance they can get..they sell us down the river for an unproven fear". This sort of labeling and name calling has to end if we are going to make good decisions that have an effect on all of us, no matter what party.

[jumkey]

The Republican Party doesn't care about this planet or the environment. They only care about themselves, and since most of the current leaders won't be around to see the effects of global warming they are more than happy to destroy the environment if they can profit from it today.

How sick and deranged are these people that they will destroy America and their children's future for a few dollars that they will never spend anyway?