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- mikealford3, I am sorry to hear about your hard times in life. In my line of work, I see healthy children and then those with mental and physical handicaps. I too wonder why things happen. I wonder why bad things happen to good people. Then I see how a person who has lived a hard life without Jesus accept him into their life. Then I see how that same person can touch the lives of those that I could never reach. I hate to say the same thing as others have said, but there is a reason for everything. I can't say I know why things happen, but everything works for the good for those who trust in God. I know it is hard to be positive in negative situations, I have been there. But when you can still say thank you God when you are in the valley, your life becomes a light to others in that valley. I don't believe God does things to us just to torture us, but we all have trials and tribulations to go through. As was already mentioned, Job had more than his share of troubles. I think he was used for an example. He had everything taken away. He was heartbroken. He suffered. But in the end, he was still able to thank God. He learned that worldly things are temporary, but salvation is eternal. We all are going to die. None of us are going to be able to take anything with us, except for our souls. God tells us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. I respect all that you have had to say. May God bless you and everyone else.
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- toldyouso21: Don't forget omnipresent (all over; everywhere). :)
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- toldyouso21: Don't forget omnipresent (all over; everywhere). :)
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- toldyouso21: You left out omnipresent. :)
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- Get back in the closet, Hippy!!!!
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- toldyouso, how is it that you know all this to be true. One statement of yours says to study and live by the words in the Bible and yet another says to interpert the word. You seem to use the book for convience. If it is god's word would it not be perfect? If the phrase was meant to say, you should leave your family, why does it not say that? Point is that book you so value has been written by human beings who are flawed so how can the book not be?
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- Get back in the closet, Hippy!!!!
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- Toldyou, of all you've said nothing appears in the Bible. Those are your words and your interpretation alone.
So let me see if I get this straight: God creates the world, looks at it with pride... and all of a sudden he sees a flock of angels making their way down to earth. Next thing he knows these angels are fornicating with women! The women, I suppose, were flattered to have an angel propose to them. Hey, they're all from heaven so it can't be that bad, can't it? How can you blame the poor souls? These women probably thought god sent them.
But god doesn't like it and drowns everyone, including the millions of people who had nothing to do with these angels.
Interesting how god doesn't have any control over these angels and how they and Satan keep rebelling against god. You would think that if they're an annoyance god would make them go up in smoke. But no, god decides to kill all of humanity except for a family led by a drunkard.
So he's cleaned the slate and starts all over again even though he knows the rebellious angels are just floating about waiting for the world to populate so they can fornicate with more women.
Which I'm sure happened but for some reason god doesn't want to clean the slate again.
So there you go, see how these J freaks keep making up the darndest things for the sake of coming up with an answer to questions they don't have an answer for.
Like I said, you guys are delusional and represent everything that is wrong with humanity. - Reply to this comment
- The rub: to exist on earth, God made certain rules and all who came here in the flesh had to follow them: To get here--a human had to be borne of a woman, once here, all the physical frailties of the flesh could be indulged in or endured. To leave here, one must die. God only suspended this rule twice. Jesus followed the rules. Why pain, suffering, evil? Because all animals change best through adversity, the greater the trauma, the more significant the changes. All part of the test, and to see how the org. adapted, survived and again, did it make a spiritual connection at all? Because the changes God actually want to see is NOT in response to the temporary environment of this life, but to the configuration of each soul--perhaps in many carnations--how does one evolve to either serve Him or Satan? What makes a fence sitter? What events have some not believing while other believers get stronger? When does the breaking of the body ignite the breaking of the spirit? Can YOU make the connection? Can I make the connection? Can they make the connection? Can we make the connection?
"For the race is not given to the swift, neither is it given to the strong--but to he that can endureth to the end" - Reply to this comment
- The rub: to exist on earth, God made certain rules and all who came here in the flesh had to follow them: To get here--a human had to borne of a woman, once here, all the physical frailties of the flesh could be indulged in or endured. To leave here, one must die. God only suspened this rule twice. Jesus followed the rules and in so doing, also gained a new dimension in the plight of humans--though he had an edge in that he KNEW who he was as opposed to blind faith (though he may have wondered if he was delusional at times) Why pain, suffering, evil? Because all animals change through adversity, the greater the trauma, the more significant the changes. All part of the test, and to see how the org. adapted, survived and again, did it make a spiritual connection at all? Because the changes God actually want to see is NOT in response to the temporary environment of this life, but to the configuration of each soul---how does one evolve to either serve Him or Satan? What makes a fence sitter? What events have some not believing while other believers get stronger? When does the breaking of the body ignite the breaking of the spirit? Can YOU make the connection? Can I make the connection? Can they make the connection? Can we make the connection?
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- After the world was destroyed by water, the experiment began again, God still wanting to observe how man made is way either closer to him or persisted in moving away from him. After a long time, it was apparent that the churches were being subverted by the interpretations and doctrines of men (much like Gentile churches are today) the agenda changed to power in the hands of a few and dictating to the people while creating a relgious elite. this sickened God again, and scripture says the scent or stench of sin was sooo bad that animal blood sacrifices couldn't cover it. We have to understand that BLOOD symbolizes life/salvation and SIN symbolizes evil and death. One is used to cancel the other. Blood was used to "cover" or smother the stench of sin and usually an animal's blood work. The gesture was in returning to God the temporary life pass on earth to compensate for sin. All symbolic but very important. Jesus had 2 reasons to come to earth--to clarify/teach the law and to be the ultimate and final sacrifices so that neither humans or animals would ever need to used again. As part of the Godhead, if he was willing to assume the personage of a human and exist as humans then die--the symbolism of a deity doing this owuld cancel out all sin forever, as long as those who did it believed in his sacrifice. End of part 3 of 4
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- After the world was destroyed by water, the experiment began again, God still wanting to observe how man made is way either closer to him or persisted in moving away from him. After a long time, it was apparent that the churches were being subverted by the interpretations and doctrines of men (much like Gentile churches are today) the agenda changed to power in the hands of a few and dictating to the people while creating a relgious elite. this sickened God again, and scripture says the scent or stench of sin was sooo bad that animal blood sacrifices couldn't cover it. We have to understand that BLOOD symbolizes life/salvation and SIN symbolizes evil and death. One is used to cancel the other. Blood was used to "cover" or smother the stench of sin and usually an animal's blood work. The gesture was in returning to God the temporary life pass on earth to compensate for sin. All symbolic but very important. Jesus had 2 reasons to come to earth--to clarify the law and teach and to be the ultimate and final sacrifices so that neither humans or animals would ever be used anymore. As part of the Godhead, if he was willing to assume the personage of a human and exist as humans then die--the symbolism of a deity doing this owuld cancel out all sin forever, as long as those who did it believed in his sacrifice.
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- I believe that how we live and deal with our lives is what we will be judged on when that day comes.
Posted by mikealford3 at 10:44 PM : May 08, 2007
Hmmm. You may want to consider Jesus's words to the Church of Thyatira in REvelations 2:18-29. That church is praised for their service, and charity and good works but is condemned for other acts that they had discounted. (many think Thyatira is the Catholic Church) but it really applies to all, who imagine that they will get to heaven on good deeds alone. In fact, you may want to peruse the bible for other examples where people end up out of favor with God and do not understand it since they always tried to do right and good. Works without faith is dead--and faith without works is dead--but God also dictates in scripture, what he expects of those who claim to belong to Him. If you disregard his word, do not be surprised if on Judgement, the 'book' is thrown at you. Scripture says hell will be full of 'good people' who will miss out nonetheless for failing to heed God's explicit instructions for soul salvation. - Reply to this comment
- We have free will, and I firmly believe that the free will of all of mankind is the cause of suffering and not god. Posted by mikealford3 at 11:11 PM : May 08, 2007
Okay, here is where it gets sticky. 2 things to know about God.
1. He is perfect--which requires a yin and a yang--God created both good and evil--he says so in Isaiah 45:7, Isaiah 54:16.
2. Satan punches a timeclock. When the "Sons of God" were meeting in heaven and Satan turned up for the meeting and God and Satan talked about Job---what do you think that meant, when the bible says Satan had to give an account of what he is doing on earth? (Job 2:1-7)
Satan has a job and God is the one who gave it to him for a season. This is the hardest thing for Christians to accept about God--they want to see him as nice, sweet and only wonderful..and negate how many people he kills, says he will kill (even in Revelations) and that even in II Kings, he has a demon (a lying spirit) who attends a meeting in heaven and volunteers to wreak a bit of havoc for God. (1Kings 22: 19-22) He sends and evil spirit to harm someone...(judges 9:23) So...Just what do you do with such scripture? God is perfect--that means he is balanced by Good and evil--love and hate, calm and stormy--he is the beginning and the end. if you think Satan is just some aberration, then you totally emasculate God and negate that he really is omniscient (all knowing) and omnipotent--allpowerful) consider the alternative. - Reply to this comment
- Therefore, in anticipation of what awaits in heaven (we are souls that have no father, mother, husband or wife in heaven) we must cast aside--it is easier if we can eschew or bury such sentimentalities now-- in scripture--to "hate" is to eschew--to separate from and to see the spiritual necessity of such an action. For one thing, it is very difficult for a born again Christian to be accepted in his old family. People will constantly challenge the conversion--and as a family dynamic--it holds true that families often resist any change (spiritual and otherwise) in family members no matter how much time has passed. To stay connected to the family is to enter into a dynamic so strong--that as a matter of habit--one could end up back where they started and never benefit from the changes that being born again should have wrought. Of course Christ was not preaching hate as in harming--because that would be a direct contradiction to loving all men and being kind even to enemies. Note, Jesus even said he had no mother. How ungrateful and cruel that sounds--to humans who place so much stock on this life, this time, and their connections to things of this time and this life. But he meant that as a spiritual being, he had no mother or person who "birthed him" and he also told her--that she had no son. Cruel? Only if you persist in putting a human spin on it.
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- Luke, chapter 14 verse 26. "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother, and wife, and children and brethren and sisters, yea his own life also, he cannot be my disciple". Posted by mikealford3 at 11:11 PM : May 08, 2007
this is why the bible says that neither the word of God or the understanding of scripture can be discerned by ordinary men (meaning those who are not Spirit filled) it is too easy to translate literally and to not read the message as a whole.
You misunderstand scripture--look deeper and read more than 1 verse. The point is not for people to 'hate their families" but to forsake their flesh, to hate or separate themselves from their flesh, their connections, and yes--event their own sense of self. Why? Because to be a true disciple one has to be born again, and when one is a new creature--a spiritual creature--the old bonds and ties of the flesh (like genetics or blood or fealty) do not matter--one has to be looking for something deeper and have a new family that is spiritual--with a new FAther (God) new siblings--others that are born in Christ. Why must this be so--to be bound to the flesh in any way will inevitably lead back to the same problems and habits as before. Again end of part 1 of - Reply to this comment
- Luke, chapter 14 verse 26. "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother, and wife, and children and brethren and sisters, yea his own life also, he cannot be my disciple". Posted by mikealford3 at 11:11 PM : May 08, 2007
this is why the bible says that neither the word of God or the understanding of scripture can be discerned by ordinary men (meaning those who are not Spirit filled) it is too easy to translate literally and to not read the message as a whole.
You misunderstand scripture--look deeper and read more than 1 verse. The point is not for people to 'hate their families" but to forsake their flesh, to hate or separate themselves from their flesh, their connections, and yes--event their own sense of self. Why? Because to be a true disciple one has to be born again, and when one is a new creature--a spiritual creature--the old bonds and ties of the flesh (like genetics or blood or fealty) do not matter--one has to be looking for something deeper and have a new family that is spiritual--with a new FAther (God) new siblings--others that are born in Christ. Why must this be so--to be bound to the flesh in any way will inevitably lead back to the same problems and habits as before. Again end of part 1 of 2 - Reply to this comment
- if you consider that all of this is an experiment and our bodies are just temporary vehicles to use while we are participating in the "experiment" it becomes clearer why trials such as death, evil, mayhem, war and disease ensue. What many see as cruel and horrible actually are simply challenges to an organism. God is well aware that the body that so many of us prize is but a very short and temporary place for our souls to be in. We freak or grieve over the loss of a body that was always temporary and many cannot understand why God would ever harm their temporary home. Why is that? The drowning. On earth at the time, Angels had been bedding human females which was expressly forbidden. As a result, creatures whose origins were half earth and half fire were created--God did not want such beings in his experiment--it had been contaminated--so time to scrap it. He did. And left a few of the old people to reseed his testing ground. Same antagonists and same protagonists--Satan to tempt, trick or harm, man to find a path around such temptations back to God--if he wanted to, if he tried, if he believed. End of part 2 of 4
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- So if we "need" Satan to test us why drown everyone? Aren't we supposed to be judged after having had a chance to live our lives?
Posted by closethippy at 04:51 PM : May 08, 2007
The experiment is to see how many can instinctively return to God. Well the answer was almost none. EAch time, God ups the ante and provides more clues--but he is looking for that balance, between humans being rationale but not to bright entities and being so amazingly smart, that they can intuit that, which they will never discover by simple reasoning. So he keeps tweaking the experiment. This world and this life just seems like everything to those, who have bought into the illusion so well--that they cannot imagine anything beyond what they have been shown through the religions of science and logic. Sort of like the millions who believed that disease was caused by miasmas or evil spirits--only until someone else invented the telescope could the idea of unseeable somethings be believed. Why the drowning...it was not simply that men were wicked--there was another element--That was the sexual interaction between Angels and females --which God expressly forbade. This produced extraordinary children that God felt were abomination. He destroyed the world--to scrap the experiment. The idea is that Salvation is depicted by life and sin is depicted by death. End of part 1 of 4 - Reply to this comment
- So if we "need" Satan to test us why drown everyone? Aren't we supposed to be judged after having had a chance to live our lives?
Posted by closethippy at 04:51 PM : May 08, 2007
The experiment is to see how many can instinctively return to God. Well the answer was almost none. EAch time, God ups the ante and provides more clues--but he is looking for that balance, between humans being rationale but not to bright entities and being so amazingly smart, that they can intuit that, which they will never discover by simple reasoning. So he keeps tweaking the experiment. This world and this life just seems like everything to those, who have bought into the illusion so well--that they cannot imagine anything beyond what they have been shown through the religions of science and logic. Sort of like the millions who believed that disease was caused by miasmas or evil spirits--only until someone else invented the telescope could the idea of unseeable somethings be believed. Why the drowning...it was not simply that men were wicked--there was another element--That was the sexual interaction between Angels and females --which God expressly forbade. This produced extraordinary children that God felt were abomination. He destroyed the world--to scrap the experiment. The idea is that Salvation is depicted by life and sin is depicted by death. End of part 1 of 4 - Reply to this comment
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