Comments on: Tiny Caribbean Nation Feels China's Wrath

China Lashes Out At St. Lucia For Restoring Diplomatic Relations With Taiwan

[mikechin2]

I live in the States, but luckily I have more knowledge about Chinese history (not like you - a pity).

"Chinese people don't fight for their rights at all. When the British occupied HK, they just obeyed the Brits like a puppy."

When did this happen? Did you mean 200 years ago when "Great Brits" could kill Chinese at will as they did? Or 20 years ago the "Great Brits" agreed to retreat (without a second choice)?

"When the Manchus took over China, they just obeyed the Manchus like a puppy."

Manchus are Chinese too, unfortunately.

"When the Commies took over China, they just obey like puppies as well. They just obey, obey and obey like slaves."

Sometimes I think the rednecks in this country are more like "slaves" of this bu$h administration. Sometimes it is funny to see brain-washed people talking about freedom for other people.

[agnim]

"They don't want their representation government, they just obey whoever is in charge and believe whatever they tell them.
Posted by fcia at 08:43 PM : May 02, 2007"
How stupid is that statement?
The Chinese people have THEIR OWN "REPRESENTATION GOVERNMENT"!

Which of YOUR "representation government" can handle 1.3 billion people without filling jails with a lot of them, and make so few enemies around the world?

The US has one billion people less than China in your 'representation government'; yet the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world!

Can you imagine if the US had one billion more people? It wouldn't last a day!

[fcia-2009]

I have to say this. Chinese people don't fight for their rights at all. When the British occupied HK, they just obeyed the Brits like a puppy. When the Manchus took over China, they just obeyed the Manchus like a puppy. When the Commies took over China, they just obey like puppies as well. They just obey, obey and obey like slaves. They don't want their representation government, they just obey whoever is in charge and believe whatever they tell them. They should have more confidence in themselves and not just follow orders from whoever is in charge.

[agnim]

"This St. Lucia things really **** my off. They have no pride in themselves. Whoever gives monery to them is their daddy, period.
Posted by mikechin2 at 04:35 PM : May 02, 2007"

Mike, your argument is very very weak, Mr Chin. LOL

If "whomever gives money to St Lucia is their daddy", then it makes good sense to TAKE MONEY FROM THE BIGGER SUGAR DADDY, yes? LOL

And your comparison of China-Taiwan with USA-Hawaii (an UNQUESTIONABLE part of the US) is nonsensical.

If you are so p!ssed, why don't you get China to invade Taiwan and straighten things out once and for all? LOL

[burneb]

I think r_bayless has it right. There is no compelling reason in history, culture, international law, or human rights why a country cannot recognize Taiwan and still have diplomatic relations with China, except for the Chinese communist government's intransigence. Neither St. Lucia nor Taiwan objects, so it's only China in a snit.

If the Taiwanese people want to be part of China, that's fine with me, but it's up to China to make that an attractive proposition. Based on the Chinese government's treatment of Hong Kong and Tibet, the Taiwanese have every right and reason to stay sovereign.

[mikechin2]

The American people just do NOT understand the other people and nations. They are probably the most ignorant in the world. Keep read my post if you would like to be less stupid. This St. Lucia things really **** my off. They have no pride in themselves. Whoever gives monery to them is their daddy, period.

The worse, I am so astonished to know people on this board do not know much international laws. Is it fine for China or Russia to recorgnize the full indepedence of Hawaii or California as a sovereignty nation (and establish official diplomatic relationship), yet the United States of America will happily accept this? There is no way this government allows Hawaii to occupy a seat in UN (and possibly vote against Uncle Sam).

[honest_news]

I had an interesting and revealing chatroom conversation with a university student from the People's Republic of China a few years ago. Our discussion had ventured into the political arena, and I had expressed my displeasure with something President Bush had recently done -- I don't remember what it was. I asked my counterpart in China whether he was at liberty to criticize his government, and he said that he was completely free to do so.

To test this, I asked him to tell me something that the President of China (at that time Jiang Zemin) had done that he took issue with, and this was his response: he said that although he was free to criticize his leaders, in China he had the freedom to choose NOT to criticize.

Taken aback by this double-speak, I pressed him that surely there must be something that he was critical of. He then became very indignant, wrote something to the effect that we don't understand true democracy here in America, and he terminated our chat.

That unfortunately abbreviated conversation told me everything I needed to know about modern Communist China.

[nolalou]

So, at last St Lucia is standing up for it's pricipals, regardless of the motivation.

It is interesting that the USA has dipomatic relations with communist China (in fact they have 'most favored nation status') but we don't recognise Taiwan, with it's democratic goverment. Of course we also have a trade embargo against Cuba, since they are communist, but somehow it's OK for China to be communist. (and by very nature of it's size, China opresses millions more than Cuba ever will!)Oh, but I forgot, China dosn't have an active exile community in Florida that can dictate US foreign policy!

[lorinkundert]

I should add that if you put GW and the Chinese President together, you can bring back the days of preschool.

[lorinkundert]

It's brings me back to the days of grade school every time I hear China whine like a child in kindergarten when they don't get their way, calling it interference in their internal affairs while they do the same to anyone who doesn't agree with them.