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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 4:07 PM EST
Lars,

The UN Charter does not prevent any nation from "defending itself," nor does it impinge on sovereignty.

The UN Charter establishes a process by which nations agree to resolve conflicts.

"Genocide" is totally irrelevant to the fact the US had no lawful (constitutional) authority to initiate a war of aggression against Iraq.

It is obvious that if the US had complied with the law, over 3,000 American soldiers and 10's of thousands of Iraqis would still be alive. And US taxpayers would not be stuck with a trillion dollars or more of unnecessary debt.

"Supporting Israel" is not worth the price being paid for that support. If you, or any other American, wants to "support Israel" (assuming you are American), renounce your US citizenship and move to Israel.

You and all other Israel first and/or Bush bootlickers are anti-America if not downright traitors.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 4:06 PM EST
tuckerndfw-

He claims the invasion did not violate the charter which the US signed as a founding member. I show it to him in black and white that only the security council has enforcement powers and he responds with the below list of insults and lies.

I'm going back to calling him what he is - liar lars.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 4:03 PM EST
formrusmcsgt
so you are pro slavery..
and pro apartheid.....
and pro genocide...
Posted by lars008 at 12:58 PM : Feb 18, 2007

You don't have the means to back up a single one of those statements. Prove me wrong, lars. Back up just one of those contentions with something other than your say-so.
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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 4:01 PM EST
Sarge,

If Lars is not a "moron," (as defined previously), he is doing a heckuva job.

He's convinced me.

But, then again, so are the vast majority of Bush bootlickers.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 4:01 PM EST
Article 42:
Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.
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You can't read can you, lars? The charter says the security council may take action, not an individual member nation. You refuse to accept it in black and white.

What does that say about you? It proves that you refuse to accept truth if it doesn't square with your opinion.
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:58 PM EST
formrusmcsgt
so you are pro slavery haji no surprise there
and pro apartheid like treatment, no surprise there...
and pro genocide... no surprise there...

you don't nelieve thes are violations of international law skippy???......
rightttttttttttttttt hahahahahahaha
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:54 PM EST
without enforcement then the un is nothing....

the usa not ceeded it's protection to the un....
the un stands by and watches genoside around the world....

thanks but no thanks.....

the usa has done nothing wrong skippy....

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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 3:53 PM EST
tuckerndfw-

lars, as I'm sure you've noticed, likes to run around screaming that Islam is a violation of international law. I've asked him 80 bazillion times to cite the law. Of course, he can't.

Yet this individual who quotes non-existent international refuses to accept the real McCoy.
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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 3:46 PM EST
Lars,

I recognize you are a troll and the primary reason I respond to your idiotic comments is not for you, but, for others who are reading these comments.

The UN Charter is a treaty. Treaties do not impinge on a nation's sovereignty because treaties are entered into voluntarily and presumably in a nation's best interest.

Bush bootlickers are some of the most ignorant, illogical and intellectually impaired people on the planet. In short, "morons."

You are no exception.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 3:45 PM EST
Chapter 7, Article 41:

The Security Council may decide what measures not involving the use of armed force are to be employed to give effect to its decisions, and it may call upon the Members of the United Nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communication, and the severance of diplomatic relations.


Article 42:
Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.
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NOWHERE in the charter does it grant enforcement powers to individual member states. The US is a signatory state of the UN Charter.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 3:42 PM EST
UN Charter, Chapter 1, Article 3:

All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

Article 4:

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Chapter 6, Article 33:

The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.

Article 37:

Should the parties to a dispute of the nature referred to in Article 33 fail to settle it by the means indicated in that Article, they shall refer it to the Security Council.
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:35 PM EST
it only authorized it;s existance.... not that the usa ceeded it's sovereignty to the un.....
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:32 PM EST
the un is not part of the constitution haji....
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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 3:32 PM EST
Lars,

The UN Charter is a treaty under Article 6, Section 2 of the US Constitution.

"The United Nations officially came into existence on 24 October 1945, when the Charter had been ratified by China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and by a majority of other signatories. United Nations Day is celebrated on 24 October each
year."

Source: http://www.un.org/aboutun/history.htm


The UN Charter is equivalent to constitutional law.
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by formrusmcsgt February 18, 2007 3:25 PM EST
Israel and the U.S. agreed ahead of a Mideast summit to shun any new Palestinian government that does not renounce violence, recognize Israel and accept existing peace agreements, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Sunday.

Bush runs around proclaiming his desire to see democracy practiced and then refuses to recognized a duly elected government. Can you say HYPOCRITE?
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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 3:23 PM EST
Lars,

In other words, you oppose the US Constitution and the rule of law. Which is clearly anti-America.

You are in good company, all other Bush bootlickers are also anti-America.
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:15 PM EST
when muslims return to the arabian peninsula.... then you can talk about israel....
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:14 PM EST
what treaty do we have with the un haji.....
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by lars008-2009 February 18, 2007 3:13 PM EST
Is islam a violation of international law???
islam practices slavery on non muslims
islam practices apartheid on non muslims
islam practices rape on non muslims
islam practices rape on babies and animals
islam practices genocide on non muslims
all are violations of international law and are crimes against humanity
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery+islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=slavery muslim&btnG=Google Search
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4795808.stm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=apartheid muslim
Malaysia women 'suffer apartheid'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4784784.stm
A matter of tolerance
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/2006/12/matter-of-tolerance.html
Marina Mahathir
http://musingwithmarinamahathir.blogspot.com/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape islam babies&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rape muslim babies&btnG=Search
Imam Khomeini - Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide islam&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=genocide muslim
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by tuckerndfw February 18, 2007 3:08 PM EST
The "settlements" are a direct violation of UN Security Council resolutions and international law.
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