Comments on: Prominent Lebanese Politician Assassinated

Anti-Syrian Christian Leader Pierre Gemayel Gunned Down Near Beirut

It is a religious power struggle. Radical Islam against Moderate Christianity%u2026the problem here is turn the other cheek doesn%u2019t work against weapons and Hatred. People who have earned nothing Kill for what they want. They blame Israel and the United States and NEVER look at them selves as a problem, it much easer to blame the other person then stand for what%u2019s right.

[sunshine_2]

perception5:
...... . We need to shore up each country through development of their security forces and their instutions......... and then pull out of the region while maintaining yearly aid to each of the three countries....
Yeah it's hard work.......... if it was easy it would have been done long ago.
It would be nice if the UN and rest of the world would pitch in but we can't expect that......

You sound like the Republican Democracy Building Imperial Killers inOffice Today. Your resolution to the Middel East Issues, is to Arm All Of The Middle East and let all Hell Break Out ? That is a sick and Inhumain/Unchristion and UnAmerican Policy of War Mongering. That war would not stop at the Middle Eastern Borders.

[hamiltongrad]

ATTENTION PC LIBS:YOU CAN GENERALIZE
Concerning generalizations, why not. You can not make any sensible judgment unless you can observe, and come to a conclusion. If it is correct to say most Janpanese are thinner vs.most Polish people , why not make other ethnic statements that follow emperical observations.
Our Univeristies are teaching us to be stupid.
In this world, it is dangerous not to know your enemy and what they are most likely up to, either from their past or what "they" say.
That there is a pattern of killing the Christians in Leb who speak our for freedom, killed by Muslims, is a fact. Go to International Herald Tribune site for complete list of Christians recently killed, one after another. Our media has a short memory, and too PC, or too involved in fluff or selling its own shows.
The International sites have been warning of Hezbollah trying to take over for last few days.

[cbgb31]

An anti-Syrian Christian Lebanese politician, I'm surprised he made it this long. A brave man indeed.

[sunshine_2]

Posted by Ammermantm at 11:34 AM : Nov 21, 2006
"JimiBear
you are completely correct, they could have left the fact that this was a Muslim killing a Christian and just said it was an assassination of a political person and not to many American would have looked twice.. "

I dis agree wiht the assumptions that All Americans would look the other way, or in the Ill stated assumtioons that it is "a Muslim's way of doing it"... I Totally disagree with the Religious and Racial Slurs I constantly Read in these blogs.
Can't we all just stict to the Topic at hand and not make it "Steriotypical Hate Messages"? I have friends of many faiths adn many races from other countries outside America and find so many offensive Post Here ... That are actually Againt the "Sites Posting Rules" of Encouraging Civil Debate.
The Assination of this Leader is upsetting to me, as would be the assination of anyother people or Leader of any other Government, regardless of his Nation or Religious Beliefe. That would include anyUS. sanctioned attempts on anyone, for the "sake of America or any other excuse".

[sunshine_2]

ANGRYliberal:
"unfortunatley, this is what Muslim's do to people they disagree with because they know they stand no chance in the area of civilized debate. "

Please Stop you Anti-Muslim Bigotry and Ethnic and Religious Slurs ... It is against the Rules of this site & I am making a Complaint About You Again.
Try to find a "diplomatically correct" and Civil way to voice your opinions.
Your comments are Raciallsy & Religious Bigotry and Insensitive in a Steriotipical way.
Your Hate Messages should all be sessored & Edited to Conform to the the "Rules To Post Here".

[one_american]

All the worlds leaders need to stand up and condemn the murderous terrorists known as Hezbollah, and send them back to Iran where they came from.

[kailo6]

Gaye5, shame on you for talking to a 13-year-old like that! Shame! That's a child you're using to play "We're God and you suck." A heart-broken child!

Wonder why the world hates us? Because of people like you who think only one people can be right and everyone else wrong. The world is complicated -- you must be a child yourself.

Perception, perhaps think about why no one is entering Darfur. Because they have nothing of value to our multi-national corporations. If Bush is so rockin', why is he happy to invade countries and do nothing to stabilize them afterward, as long as we maintain a stranglehold on their oil, but does nothing in the Sudan, or to China, who invaded Tibet, or to Saudi Arabia, which has the fewest democratic elements in its government around, and which funds Bin Laden and terrorists like him? Oil. This is not a brain teaser. It's easy.

Lebanon, the world is complicated, so complicated that no one really understands why humans do what they do. Any religion can be used for good and evil, and has been. Listen to you heart and to God, in whatever voice you hear it, and you will know what to do. You are a good person already, I can tell. Americans too, are complicated, and some of us understand that good people come in all forms, as do bad. You will get through this and be alright.

[hamiltongrad]

To CBS: Why not show the picture of the man killed ?

Didn't Cond. Rice just meetwith this brave man ?

[gaye5]

Lebanon22-11, you are obviously a thinker, you can be proud of yourself.
We in the west do not want war, this is why our fathers decided that a demrocracy was the answer, where the government is elected by a majority of the people. Of course it is not perfect but the beauty of it is that if the majority isnt happy with what the government has done they kick them out next elections...war comes about for us as people who do want war try to kill us. we dont go to war for a slight or a remark, but we will try to protect others, and sometimes we have been wrong in doing that..
Dont be hurt by what you read in remarks here, as if you saw world wide carnage done by another religion, you would also be against that religion, and even though there are wonderful people in that religion it taints the whole lot. There have been over 6668 terrorist attacks since sep 11th, done by Muslims, and that is not counting the horrors going on by Muslims in other countries. If you havent already done so I would suggest that you read the Quran yourself, as I have done (with parts of it), and see why your brothers are doing what they do and see if this is what you want for your life and children... then read what many ex clerics have to say about Islam.

[bushrocks1]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to WW II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. As a hypothetical, I can say, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country who can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front, being a big one. But now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?... I'm waiting.

[verrz]

What hypocricy: Bush says he supports Lebanese democracy and yet allowed ally Israel to pummel it to the breaking point in yet another deluded attemmpt to settle a political and social issue militariy, al la neocon neofascism.
One can only hope the lid does not blow off this situation with pixilated neocons pulling the strings and a man-child president in office.

[blondmadison]

Posted by mjv2944 at 01:43 PM : Nov 21, 2006


Dear Set-In-Stone:

I have never read the bible. I do not own one. I learned as a child that I do not need a bible or church to know the father of life. You seem very disconnected to that kind of energy.

That is why I say there is no fire and brimstone going on here. I am not a bible thumper. So you are mistaken on this count, as well as others.

I have seen death and dismemberment too, right here in "America". From car accidents to serial killers. We see it every day on the news w/o exception. It is the "American" way of life...death and dying.

Time to switch gears Set-In-Stone. Back can't stand up straight? Buy a brace and strap it on. Time to do something different. Get of the mind-set that something different might mean, non violent fun which takes over a village... non violent humorous ways of doing things...candid camera style...

Remedies come in various means. Killing was never considered a remedy of anything. That's a cheaters way to a silent victory. A win achieved by silencing the voices.

[perception5]

TruthWillWin, I'm sorry but you sound very "contaminated". Are you Howard Dean????

[truthwillwin]

Let's Get Real:

You and I know too well that the only party that benefits from these poster-boy killings is the United States and its alliars.

Rafiq Hariri, killed on Valentine's Day in 2005, victim of Con Rice & Company. He was a pacifist Lebanese voice in the Lebanon/Syria relations. His car-bombing assassination helped the USA achieve Syria's withdrawal from Lebanon, which Bush had been pushing for years.

Anna Politskovkaya's violent death in her apartment elevator has created hundreds of times the trouble she caused as a "Kremlin critic."

Bush had to retaliated against Iraq's and Syria's restoring diplomatic relations, so they set up another rift between Syria and Lebanon, to pre-empt a Syria/Iraq/Lebanon/Iran coalition against the USA's war crimes and crimes against humanity, for which they will pay much, much sooner than the vast majority could imagine.

[lebanon22-11]

I read the comments,and I'm hurt cuz I'm Lebanese and I am a muslim,and I'm proud.I am 13 years old and I'm french educated and I'm really doing my best in the English class cuz since I was little,I've always wanted to come 2 the U.S and study,but u broke my dream,cuz I have no harm for the american people, unlike that,I adore them and wish if I'm one of them.Now, there's a big part of the Lebanese people who are against the terrorism and Hezbollah,and who are stuggling for peace and unity,not everyone is a "Saddam"or a "Ben ladden",but there are people who consider these names as the Devil,and I'm one of them..

[mjv2944]

blondmadison

Yup, thats the way it is. Been around a lot longer than you, see death and dismemberment up close, Vietnam, have seen do-gooders come and go, and it always ends up the same, money has the power and the power has the money. And by the way, if you brought me up by the bootstraps and if I did eat it, chances are you'd be a skeleton. Thump the Bible all you want, I doubt that it will change much. Its an ugly world and has been since day 1.

[perception5]

Even more reason for us and the rest of the world to support young democracies especially in Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Iran and Syria and their "unelected leaders" have no morale beliefs and put up the money/man for these terrorist acts. We need to shore up each country through development of their security forces and their instutions......... and then pull out of the region while maintaining yearly aid to each of the three countries....
Yeah it's hard work.......... if it was easy it would have been done long ago.
It would be nice if the UN and rest of the world would pitch in but we can't expect that...... they continue to watch as thousands in Sudan die while busy publishing more "global warming" and "human rights abuse" reports......
We don't need any more "reports" from the UN or others we need action to save people thoughout the Middle East........
The biggest help would be if our worldwide liberal media would support these efforts....instead of providing aid and comfort to all of our enemies......

[saransk]

Hezbolla no longer needs Syria to "green-light" its political tactics. Syria is becoming a non-entity in the region.
Unfortunately, the politics of Lebanon are such that honest discourse and compromise are dead. Ever since the 1980's when the influx of radical palestinians led to the Civil War, it probably is no longer possible to settle things in the area.
Hezbolla no longer feels it needs to even give "lip service" to the concept of Lebanon as a state, and with good reason - the state cannot prevent Hezbolla from doing what it wants. And it now appears that Hezbolla - like all facist organizations -wants the falsehood of being elected to run the country. They want a veneer of democratic action to cover while they "hijack" the country. Much like the Nazis did to the Weimar republic in Germany.
While nominally still within the Syrian sphere of influence - Syria no longer can control Hezbolla, even the Iranians exert little control. Hezbolla wants nothing less than convert Lebanon, once one of the least radical Islamic countries, into a state modeled on the Iranian war -and a launching pad for another war with Israel.
I am sorry for the death of Lebanon.

[blondmadison]

blondmadison

Maybe you should volunteer to work in the Sadr City slums to see if there is real comparison to USA and England of 200 years ago, and I believe you are the holier than thou one, and quite naive. The real world is not a pretty picture, there is lying and dying everyday and it generally all in the name of the Lord or Allah.

Posted by mjv2944 at 12:22 PM : Nov 21, 2006

Does this blog mean, "This is the way it is. This is the way it has always been. This is the way it will always be." ??? Huh, Broken Record?

There's no fire and brimstone here, and no, I am not being holier than thou in bringing you up by the boot straps. Eat it and close your mouth while chewing on it.

If war were an answer, it would have been the answer the first time around, not the millionth time. If killing and dying were the answer as you suggest, then go die, just you.

Do you have any ideas which have not been attempted? How about this idea: Global Peace

What can be done to bring this about, without killing, without discriminating, without racism...without the U.S.A claiming to have all the answers and everyone just needs to follow them?????

If the USA or Britain or Israel had ANY answers EVER---I should think we would not be experiencing any problems at all-because USA, Britain, and Israel would be leading all of us safely, without hate. FAT CHANCE OF THAT.