Who's confirming it? A real representative of Libya or a us puppet? Because the us and corporate media lie so much about so many things it's a safe bet that they are lying now.
As usual they give no hard evidence of his death, just shaky videos and obvious photo shop fakes. I won't be the least bit surprise to see Gaddafi is still alive and well.
What will happen is the opposite of what they did with Bin Laden. They ignored the fact he was dead 10 years before he was "killed" last May. Now they will ignore the fact Gaddafi is still alive despite all the reports on the net.
You just don't get it do you? You think #OWS/Occupy America is going to go away ... it not ... we have had enough of corporate media lies and lies from the war criminals in Washington. There are a lot of us that are not nearly as stupid as you hope.
The graphic images are absolutely UNNECESSARY!!
It angers me that some poeple believe those grusome images convey better news. Big shame in the way the U.S. media deliver news.
Please do not show that video again showing him being killed. Isn't it bad enough that we have to hear about all of this without seeing it! Thank God my kids were not up to view that. It is not necessary to show the graphic images. People see enough of gruesome things in this world without this. Please have some class and don't show that sort of thing.
I agree. I think it's way over the top to show these images. Perhaps such gore and graphic scenes increase website page hits and fictionalised dramas on TV (such as CSI) rate thru the roof showing characters all smashed up and bloodies ... but when it's a real person - like an actual human being - it is stomach turning. Gadaffi was not a character in a story arc or in a plotline that's going to be neatly wrapped up at the end of the episode.
As despicable as Gadaffi was, he was still a real human being. A person.
It's impossible to try to just read the story without the images being shoved in your face by the news media. I just want the facts. I don't want or need the blood and guts that goes with it.
Perhaps there are people out there who enjoy news that dehumanises people & turns them into nothing more than entertainment fodder, sound bytes and neat 20" news clips.
I agree with you Jane. We don't need to see these horrendously graphic images of a dead person.
notblu what part of the difference between $1.2 billion spent in Libya and the $4 trillion that Iraq and Afghanistan will cost don't you understand? I can see that Obama is trying to extricate us from the Bush quagmire that he started based on lies and personal feelings.
And don't think that I am not out on the street EVERY WEEK protesting the wars. Also am protesting Obama's corporate energy policy.
There are many things Obama has done wrong and can legitimately be challenged on - but not on the results in Libya. Actual results against an actual terrorist leader on the cheap with no American military casualties and a full-strentgh international coalition instead of us carrying all the load.
notblu, Obama did not engage us in endless occupations that will end up costing us at least $4 trillion. Obama is doing what the Bush Crime Family should have done: give strategic donations to the proper people and use highly trained military squads to do counter terrorism (instead of sending the entire US Army in to go after 3 people.
It is the difference between being an incompetent, reactionary, yahoo, cowboy right winger (Bush) and an educated, intelligent, thinking, progressive commander (Obama). It is like night and day.
Obama carried on those occupations and even expanded them in Afghanistan and libya, if you call Bush incompetent then you must call Obama the same. THe trouble with partisan extremists like you is your blinding purposeful ignorance has no basis in truth and fact, it is soley based on hatred for Bush and fellow conservative Americans
notblu - we never had an "occupation" in Libya. Obama did expand forces in Afghanistan as we drew down in Iraq because he believed (correctly) that al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan and we had failed to go after them.
As for "partisan extremism" being a prism, of course it is. But that said, Bush launched the wars in Afghanistan (as he should have) and in Iraq (where he probably should not have) and it wasn't until the surge in Iraq that we saw some real progress at getting things resolved. Obama changed the strategy in all three places (including Libya) and has seen fairly quick and effective results in two. Afghanistan is still a problem, but at least we got Bin Laden which was the reason we went there in the first place.
So it is fair to say Bush committed us to trillions of dollars in expense and two large theaters of operation and ended 6 years later having not accomplished any of the except taking out Saddam, which was not an anti-terrorist objective, and Obama in 3 years has accomplished all the original objectives plus a couple of others and is doing it while drawing down forces and cutting budgets.
noloyalisti, your hypocrisy and ignorance know no bounds, first of all Obama used the policies Bush created to kill these terrorists in fact when Bush was using drones and bombing countries to remove DICTATORS and TERRORISTS you were against him now that OBama has carried on exactly the same strategy and policies you praise him. Secondly the war machine, it's tools, and weapons, Obama uses to kill terrorists and protect American citizens, even treasonous traitorous ingrates like yourself, are manufactured by large corporations who employ hard working Americans unlike yourself. Get friggin clue ok?
This is the reason why we should have a minimum intelligence and IQ requirement in order to run for President of the USA. Just look at how Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and how Obama got rid of Gadhafi. Two very different approaches, one idiotic and one very smart. One cost billions of dollars and thousands of American lives and one cost virtually nothing. Intelligence and a high IQ makes all the difference.
It is not only intelligence. What is more impressive is that the entire Libya intervention was an internaiotnal coalition where the US didn't have to do 99% of the work. Just like George H.W. Bush did in Desert Storm, a real coaltion of allies working together not only gets the mission accomplised with fewer Americans at risk it creates leverage and influence beyond our own borders.
The George W. Bush Wars were effecgtively just US affairs and no real coalition was assembled - Obama (and Hillary) deserve credit for making it a global action not a US one.
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As usual they give no hard evidence of his death, just shaky videos and obvious photo shop fakes. I won't be the least bit surprise to see Gaddafi is still alive and well.
What will happen is the opposite of what they did with Bin Laden. They ignored the fact he was dead 10 years before he was "killed" last May. Now they will ignore the fact Gaddafi is still alive despite all the reports on the net.
You just don't get it do you? You think #OWS/Occupy America is going to go away ... it not ... we have had enough of corporate media lies and lies from the war criminals in Washington. There are a lot of us that are not nearly as stupid as you hope.
It angers me that some poeple believe those grusome images convey better news. Big shame in the way the U.S. media deliver news.
Gadaffi was not a character in a story arc or in a plotline that's going to be neatly wrapped up at the end of the episode.
As despicable as Gadaffi was, he was still a real human being. A person.
It's impossible to try to just read the story without the images being shoved in your face by the news media. I just want the facts. I don't want or need the blood and guts that goes with it.
Perhaps there are people out there who enjoy news that dehumanises people & turns them into nothing more than entertainment fodder, sound bytes and neat 20" news clips.
I agree with you Jane. We don't need to see these horrendously graphic images of a dead person.
And don't think that I am not out on the street EVERY WEEK protesting the wars. Also am protesting Obama's corporate energy policy.
Well done on this one.
It is the difference between being an incompetent, reactionary, yahoo, cowboy right winger (Bush) and an educated, intelligent, thinking, progressive commander (Obama). It is like night and day.
As for "partisan extremism" being a prism, of course it is. But that said, Bush launched the wars in Afghanistan (as he should have) and in Iraq (where he probably should not have) and it wasn't until the surge in Iraq that we saw some real progress at getting things resolved. Obama changed the strategy in all three places (including Libya) and has seen fairly quick and effective results in two. Afghanistan is still a problem, but at least we got Bin Laden which was the reason we went there in the first place.
So it is fair to say Bush committed us to trillions of dollars in expense and two large theaters of operation and ended 6 years later having not accomplished any of the except taking out Saddam, which was not an anti-terrorist objective, and Obama in 3 years has accomplished all the original objectives plus a couple of others and is doing it while drawing down forces and cutting budgets.
What kind of a disgusting society goes nuts over Janet Jackson's "Wardrobe malfunction" but is ok with dead bodies (bloody ones at that)?
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Nobody wanted to see Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction"!
I can't even be bothered to type out all the fallacies and inaccuracies and contained in your post.
The George W. Bush Wars were effecgtively just US affairs and no real coalition was assembled - Obama (and Hillary) deserve credit for making it a global action not a US one.