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'Key Person' In Case Held In Pakistan; Pregnant Woman Among Suspects

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by leanor2 August 11, 2006 3:19 AM EDT
I may be wrong about the way I feel about the way that sometimes the United States tells to much about how they are going to handle the terrorists if they attack. They always come out on the news telling how we are going to handle the attack. I feel that the terrorists be watching the news too and are able to plot out how they are going to attack us becaues we talk to much about how we are going to do things. And I believe that makes them able to get in much easier to attack us. I have nothing against the Irac's or Pakistan's,but it is not hard for them to be able to come into the United States to get a job or to go to school to learn how to fly a plane, yet it would be very hard for someone like me to want to fly a plane with out anyone going througt my life background check. I wonder how it is so easy for them to be able to do these things without going through a lot of background check ? I believe we are making it to easy for them to be able to attack us. Maybe we need to learn how not to tell the left hand what the right hand is about to do.
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by cbsnewssv August 11, 2006 3:16 AM EDT
Rather than bashing Bush, you arm-chair quarterbacks should make some suggestions to prevent these terror attacks.

They have several advantages over us that we have to address:
1. They can blend into American and British society whereas we can't blend into theirs.
2. They understand English but we can't understand Arabic.

A good first step is to train all law enforcement and airport personnel in Arabic.

Also, infiltrate those Arabic neighborhoods in Britain. Turn them into more multicultural city blocks rather than pure Arabic. Build some Italian, Greek, etc. restaurant and churches in those areas. Be more friendly to the Arabic people rather than avoiding them. If you try to be friends with them and they shy away, that's a warning sign.

What do you liberal democrats think of these ideas? If you don't like them, come up with your own.
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by amberkatkat August 11, 2006 2:36 AM EDT
It is good that authorities are increasing security measures, however, what about the items which are in the duty-free stores within the airport, aren't those items (such as hair gels, etc.) suspect as well? Maybe authorities shoudl increase security measures on those types of items as well?
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by grandmadebbi August 11, 2006 2:15 AM EDT
So many Americans are quick to sit back on their behinds and trash our President and make comments in such a way that it "appears" they actually know what they are talking about. It is very similar, in my personal opinion, as the "couch potato coach" who runs down every play the team is making when in fact he/she couldn't qualifiy to even be on it, much less coach it. We need to be praying for our country, our leaders and our alies.
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by bazvl August 11, 2006 2:11 AM EDT
I thought something was going on after the news story about the 11 Egyptian students disappearing and the FBI said it was no big deal. What's wrong here ? , Do we need a another attack to wake up ? . The FBI should have released the names & Photos of these students and they needed to be put on the front of every news paper in the country.Wake up America these Mind'less Fanatics have had plenty of time to formulate another attack
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by alphaa10-2009 August 11, 2006 1:07 AM EDT
"If Bush didnt take the war to Islam, Islam would have its war in America."

Actually, Islamic terrorism already has had its war in America-- that is called 911. And it was Bush's watch. In addition, if it was UK police who investigated and detained UK citizens in the plot, why is it you want to strike up the band for Bush? Bush had little to do with this. Should we blame Bush when al Qaeda wins one in Bali?

Bush has his own problems. He is busy trashing the Bill of Rights, and calling the Constitution a "GD*&&! piece of paper.!" This is your president?

Bush is no hero, but has made a hash of the blank check issued him by congress for his so-called war on terror-- the biggest political smokescreen ever to cover incompetence. Bin Laden is said to run the show for al Qaeda, but recent developments suggest he is content to let second-generation Islamic cells do his work, and they are legion.

Bush had his chance in Afghanistan to nip al Qaeda in Afghanistan at Toro Bora, and royally blew it. Now his spawn is everywhere-- even the UK. Though our response to 911 initially targeted the Taliban rogue state in Afghanistan, Bush screwed the whole thing by insisting on Iraq, though indications pointed everywhere else. This wannabe president actually pulled units chasing bin Laden from Afghanistan to Iraq!
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by pwrslm August 10, 2006 11:35 PM EDT
If Bush didnt take the war to Islam, Islam would have its war in America.

Applaud Bush, even if you hate him.
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by alphaa10-2009 August 10, 2006 9:20 PM EDT
TypicalUSGuy is correct about Bush and his attempted stealth engagement with Iran, using Iraq as an operations base for the ultimate strike at Iran. Clearly, Bush does not intend to leave Iraq soon-- why do you think the US hired Halliburton to build about ten "super-bases" in Iraq? This is a force-projection posture, not the action of a power about to vacate territory it invaded under pretext of self-defense.

This certainly would explain the gradual escalation of Bush/Rice rhetoric against Iran. A conventional decapitation strike is already on Pentagon boards, though Rice prefers to say no option is dismissed out of hand.

Ahmadinejad plays directly into a collision with the US for his own purposes-- chiefly to gather Islamic factions behind him and isolate relative moderates like Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Since Iran is anything but Arabic and Sunni, Ahmadinejad must campaign hard as an outsider to gain control of Islamic political leadership in the MidEast. In his quest to become the poster state for Islamic jihad, Ahmadinejad needs Bush desperately to attack him and welcomes any bellicosity from the "crusader" nations, even goes out of his way to invite it.

Into this perfect storm walks Bush, dying to force a war on Iraq. Yes, Bush is a study in negative leadership, and a vector for sheer disaster.
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by typicalusguy August 10, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
Stop mixing al Qaeda plots with the war in Iraq. The two have little to do with each other. Yes - Bush said they did and yes, that was misleading at best and likely a deliberate lie. But the truth is that we are in Iraq to get a foothold in the Middle East so that we have a place to launch our attack on Iran, the real problem that is looming. The Afghan war is about 911 and al Qaeda. The Iraq war is about vengence against Saddam and establishing a base of operations. Bush said so when he coined the phrase Axis of Exil. Iran and North Korea are the real problems. Iraq just looked like a pushover to use as a base of oerations. Unfortunely it has evolved into a Civil War that we are all wrapped up in. We can't pull out - not because then we give in to terrorists - it's because we need to have a base there to go after Iran.
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by duffyn August 10, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
I'm with you cjgermany!!! :) And I need to take care of aome work. See yah all later!! I like the carrot and stick idea.
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by grillage1 August 10, 2006 8:22 PM EDT
If the US Government had done their homework five years ago at this same time of year, 911 would had never happened!
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by cjgermany August 10, 2006 8:06 PM EDT
As this discussion continues to talk about solutions to dealing with terrorists, the assumptions are that:

1. You are weak if you have any other solution to the terrorist problem than to nuke Arabs and anyone associated with terrorism by simplistic association.

2. This makes you a Democrat.

People are doing as I said- politicizing our safety and doing exactly what our enemy wants us to do: behave as they do.

When we act and think like Ann Coulter we become just like our enemy, which we don't want to become.

The success of capitalism is the use of the CARROT and the STICK. The current political party in power only wants to use the stick. If you use a carrot, you are weak and a Democrat. Our founding fathers must be doing somersaults in their grave. I pray that God forgives people that say such spiteful, hateful, libelous and damaging things. I must learn to forgive them.

Let's get REAL SOLUTIONS, not more blame!!!!!

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by duffyn August 10, 2006 8:02 PM EDT
I really think that is bull. That Democrats are weak on terrorism and can't stomach war. I am sure Republicans would like everyone to believe that. Democrats love our country (and flag) just as much as anyone else. If there is a just reason for a war that could really solve our problems, they would do it without hesitation. Everyone sees the current wars are failing. With the exception of the Afghan war which looks to be successful and I certainly hope it is. We all see the failures of the Bush admin in Iraq, etc We all need to work together (dems, pubs, etc) to clean up that mess. I just don't think Buh and his sidekicks deserve their paycheck any more.
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by terrilee2 August 10, 2006 7:58 PM EDT
You know I truly beleive in my heart that I blame the Professors that teach our kids in Colleges around the world about the way people think today. I am proud to have a President that stands up for America. Clinton had a chance back when they bombed the World Trade Center back then and did NOTHING. The WAR is fought on their and not ours. Thanks to Bush.
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by duffyn August 10, 2006 7:51 PM EDT
Well I haapen to think there is a better way to deal with someone who is willing to blow themselves up that would not involve collateral damage. What are you going to do if there's a bunch hiding in your neighborhood? (there could be) Just blow up the whole neighborhood????
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by typicalusguy August 10, 2006 7:36 PM EDT
Yes. Ignore collateral damage. al Qaeda tactics are to directly attack civilians. They also hide among civilians. Until the peaceful majority in the Islamic world takes action into their own hands and puts a stop to these extremists who live and hide in their midst, there will never be an end. They don't care who they kill when they walk into a wedding and blow themselves up. You cannot defeat a heartless enemy who hides among civilians unless you're willing to accept that those civilians sign their own death warrants by allowing extremists to share their neighborhoods.

There is simply no way to negotiate or break bread with someone who will blow themselves (and you) up during the introductions.
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by cjgermany August 10, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
This proves absolutely nothing about Democrats. It only shows more politicization of our safety by Republicans.
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by shermanwatts August 10, 2006 7:15 PM EDT
It is really a huge, huge problem for the Democratic party.
The UK bomb threat makes it clear that the Democrats do NOT have the stomach for a war against terrorists. It shows that all Democrats are weak on terrorism, except Joe, and he no longer a Democrat.

Yes, I'm afraid we are mortally wounded and have no hope of ever being a majority in congress or winning the executive branch again.

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by alphaa10-2009 August 10, 2006 6:51 PM EDT
Bush is neither proactive, nor security-minded, despite his self-serving rhetoric about diligence against terror. 911 happened on Bush's own watch%u2013 how quickly we forget! 911 happened with ample warning. Had Bush been awake, he would have directed more attention *pre-911* to the FBI and CIA advisories about terror hijackings and bombings. The so-called Millennium Plot was foiled at the US-Canadian border in the year 2000. The morning of 911, Condi Rice had a memorandum warning of al Qaeda airliner hijackings on her desk.

But all Bush wanted to discuss was his obsession with Iraq. During the eight months preceding 911, he might have listened to Richard Clark and his persistent comments about al Qaeda. So unfamiliar were Bush and Wolfowitz with al Qaeda, in fact, that in White House sessions immediately after 911, Wolfowitz asked Clark what al Qaeda had to do with the ongoing discussion of 911.

The UK plot was uncovered by a multinational security network, but the US portion of that network gets a %u201CC-%u201D grade. Under HSA chief Tom Ridge, it yielded the unproductive series of yellow-to-amber-to-red alerts that became a joke with the American public. Bush paid little attention to protection for US ports against container bombs. Chemical plants around the country are still unsecured. Municipal reservoirs are still largely unprotected. Until very recently, the US Transportation Security Agency still failed its own quality check on airport security!
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by duffyn August 10, 2006 6:39 PM EDT
I am no longer interested in anything Bush has to say. He has proven completely incompetent to deal with terrorism and has only made matters worse. How many Iraqis would now love to kill an American? I can't believe this "get them get them war war war" mentality. The people with the "war is not the answer" stickers begin to look like geniuses. Ignore "collateral damage"???? Collateral damage is someone's dead brother uncle, wife etc. The people who live through one of these ignoramic bombings then hate us because we just killed tehir brother, wife, etc Wouldn't you?? We need a different approach war is NOT the answer. Good law enforement, spying, stopping someone before they act like they did today, actually talking about peace and helping people. Figure a way to take out a terrorist(s) without wrecking billions of dollars in infrastructure and killing innocent people people.
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