Simulacrum in nature to 9-11 don't you think. A terrorist attacks us and cries Islam, Islam and we pick up the rage call and seek vengeance. At his bidding to attack here and there as he designates. Expending ourselves on shadows. Now rabid willing weak minded bigots pick up the cry Somali, Somali, seek vengeance, fear, hatred, prejudice. This is becoming redundantly boring following these knuckle draggers.
We allowed this threat to enter our country unmonitored for the most part. I do not advocate violence, but have no real sympathy for the mosque fire. Remember, the wingnut that started this mess was going to detonate a car bomb at a Christmas tree lighting! Thank God he was set up by our gov't boys and stopped. How many more are out there that we haven't caught. There will be one that slips through the cracks and blows up a bunch of our people. I can't wait to hear the comments that will be made on here then. It is all well and good to be an open hearted American and want to give other people the American dream. But this desire must now be reigned in because of an entire religious faction that wants to convert us to Islam or kill us any way they can.
These Somalis should not have been brought to this country in the first place. The U.S. State Dept. is to blame for bringing in tens of thousands of them all at the expense of the U.S. tax payers. Send them all back to Somalia. They are all a national security threat.
Brokennews, I get the point and you are absolutely correct. We are a nation who try to help others. Once the country (we've helped) get back on its feet, they will tell us to go scratch. Yes, they (our allies) will turn their backs on us eventally. In the mean time, we're being sociable!!! UGH....
I have no use for Islam but the Corvallis Gazette Times made it as plain as a pikestaff that the entire Muslim community there unequivocably comdemned the bombing attempt.
There was no defense or excuses offered for the perp; I live in Corvallis so I have front row seat in this fiasco. The Islamic community here, even the cranks steeped in Holy Fascism, have loudly and repeatedly said, "This is not Islam".
There are some on this thread who say this man did not operate alone. Maybe, but did Tim McVeigh act alone? Was Jim D. Adkisson a lone wolf? How about Baruch Goldstein and the Rev. Paul Hill? It's difficult for me to believe someone didn't know about their plans beforehand. This isn't to single out any religious community in particular but to say that there are zealous terrorists among the Christians and Jews too.
Doesn't make what Osman Mahamud tried to do right, but neither does it give Christians or Jews (or anyone else for that matter) the moral platform to single out another faith for special condemnation.
Shouldn't the headline read "Muslims fear reprisal after bombing attempt"? It was the bombing attempt (which was done by one of their members after someone set fire in the mosque) that would prompt further reprisal. Typical CBS poor editing!
One of us has to believe that the 'bomber' was not the only one who knew of this plan. Therefore, I think that if they will not police themselves, then the local population has a duty to be on guard against Muslim terrorists. Most non-Muslims do not go into a Mosque, so they have a place to plot all they want and say, I don't know nothing about that.
There are peace-loving Muslims. Those who are peace loving and law abiding deserve the same protection as you, or I, a Southern Baptist, receive. The muslim community denounced the attempted violence and don't want to see it escalate. Don't forget, it was a hate mongerer who started the whole episode by setting a fire in the mosque.
I hope these folks, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, can settle down and get things back to normal quickly.
Peer pressure is a powerful thing, especially with a man this age. Other Muslims knew about this but chose to ignore it or not get involved. Muslims... you're either with us or against us. Next time you see a little snot-nosed dumbazz like this you need to ***** slap some sense into him. Maybe if we see you doing more to reign in your crazies, we wouldn't mind so much reigning in ours!
The continuous string of Muslims plotting in one way or another to harm the people of this country is disturbing...and the 'Muslim Community's' demand for increased protection from us strikes me as being the height of hypocrisy...On the one hand, this 'community' produces a seemingly unending line of young men (and presumably women, eventually) who are willing to kill Americans on behalf of their religious beliefs; and the 'Community' refuses to condemn their actions. Then on the other hand, the leaders of that 'Community' proclaim loudly that it is they who are endangered by Americans and demand greater police protection from Americans. Duplicitous, to say the least.
There's something terribly wrong with this storyline...some element missing...perhaps that element is truth...I cannot believe that either Muslim leaders in America and observant Muslims in America actually believe in the base philosophy of Western civilization, and particularly the founding concepts of this nation...To say that observant Muslims dissemble is to be unrealistically charitable about the whole Muslim 'Community's' fidelity to America and American ideals.
After having given this situation much thought and many hundreds of hours of reading the Koran (in English) and every news story from every news source and point of view that I can find I come to these conclusions: 1. Islam in America is a dangerous or potentially dangerous force in our midst. 2. Being an observant Muslim and a loyal, trustworthy American citizen are mutually exclusive. 3. The failure by the Muslim 'community' to condemn and expose those who would commit acts of terror by its members destroys the possibility of our having trust in Muslims residing in America.
I certainly do not call for censuring Islam in America, but until that group is willing to stand up for American ideals and repudiate terrorism and Islamic expansionism in all of its forms, I believe the 'community' at-large must remain under close law enforcement scrutiny, and that those who would harm our society must be excised from our presence and confined in places where they can do no harm.
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r?pondre ? la violence par la violence, n'est pas la solution.
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respond to violence with violence is not the solution. au revoir
There was no defense or excuses offered for the perp; I live in Corvallis so I have front row seat in this fiasco. The Islamic community here, even the cranks steeped in Holy Fascism, have loudly and repeatedly said, "This is not Islam".
There are some on this thread who say this man did not operate alone. Maybe, but did Tim McVeigh act alone? Was Jim D. Adkisson a lone wolf? How about Baruch Goldstein and the Rev. Paul Hill? It's difficult for me to believe someone didn't know about their plans beforehand. This isn't to single out any religious community in particular but to say that there are zealous terrorists among the Christians and Jews too.
Doesn't make what Osman Mahamud tried to do right, but neither does it give Christians or Jews (or anyone else for that matter) the moral platform to single out another faith for special condemnation.
And it certainly doesn't justify firing a church.
and THEY want protection?????
I hope these folks, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, can settle down and get things back to normal quickly.
There's something terribly wrong with this storyline...some element missing...perhaps that element is truth...I cannot believe that either Muslim leaders in America and observant Muslims in America actually believe in the base philosophy of Western civilization, and particularly the founding concepts of this nation...To say that observant Muslims dissemble is to be unrealistically charitable about the whole Muslim 'Community's' fidelity to America and American ideals.
After having given this situation much thought and many hundreds of hours of reading the Koran (in English) and every news story from every news source and point of view that I can find I come to these conclusions: 1. Islam in America is a dangerous or potentially dangerous force in our midst. 2. Being an observant Muslim and a loyal, trustworthy American citizen are mutually exclusive. 3. The failure by the Muslim 'community' to condemn and expose those who would commit acts of terror by its members destroys the possibility of our having trust in Muslims residing in America.
I certainly do not call for censuring Islam in America, but until that group is willing to stand up for American ideals and repudiate terrorism and Islamic expansionism in all of its forms, I believe the 'community' at-large must remain under close law enforcement scrutiny, and that those who would harm our society must be excised from our presence and confined in places where they can do no harm.