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ruthieann718 says:
Oh come on people, enough is enough. These people are only doing their jobs in trying to keep the people of this country safe. How the heck do you suppose they do that without patting down people. Are we as a society so numb to terrorist activities that we forgot just one year ago the young man who boarded a flight bound for Detroit with the goal of bombing that plane. He was able to board that flight because there was no pat down. Now that there is people are finding fault with this process.
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Doctor_Bones replies:
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Thats right the TSA failed. The underwear bomber was jumped on by the other passengers. ruthieann you sound like a NAZI.
linfinster replies:
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I'm not suggesting we not do the pat downs but when there are medical issues, one should use appropriate actions. AND equally important would be acknowledgment of a gigantic error where the passenger is now dealing with a urine spill because you didn't do it right is completely unacceptable!! Shame Shame SHAME on those people!
bobnjersey replies:
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[He was able to board that flight because there was no pat down. ]
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he was on a watchlist ... his passport showed he was in yemen before his pass thru nigeria ... his father reported his radicalization to the u.s. embassy in nigeria weeks before the flight.

all your memory can conjure up is he didn't have a patdown?

what's wrong with you ... are you stupid ... or are you just lying?
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Doctor_Bones says:
"TSA Chief Asks for Publics Pat-Down Cooperation"......Heinrich Himmler perhaps? Didn't the NAZI SS ask the Jews and Homosexuals to "cooperate with the SS? It looks like with the Patriot Act the terrorist have succeeded in destroying some cherished American freedoms. The dead veterans of foreign wars are crying in their graves.
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tmn replies:
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"The dead veterans of foreign wars are crying in their graves."

Hey, maybe you can join them if a bomb gets through weakened security and blows up at 35,000 feet.

Repeat after me - the enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA...
Doctor_Bones replies:
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@tmn.........you are a sad person. you would rather live in a police state than risk the small chance of a plane coming down......the enemy is you tmn.
miami_don replies:
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by tmn November 22, 2010 6:38 PM EST
"The dead veterans of foreign wars are crying in their graves." ...Repeat after me - the enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA...==================== The enemy of the TSA is not the American traveler --- can you say that? Look, nobody is saying what you think they are saying. Open up your mind and think!! Should the TSA be a entity unto itself with authority to mistreat people who are not physcially capable of being scanned without being answerable to any action they take? Now repeat that!
bobnjersey replies:
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[Repeat after me - the enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA. The enemy is Al Qaeda, not TSA... ]
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the enemy is within ... the enemy is our own ignorance ... the enemy is the failure to understand the simplicity of cause and effect ... the enemy is in believing those who hold ... or want to hold ... sway over you ... the enemy are those who believe them.
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tmn says:
Whoops!!
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longtree-2009 says:
he had the opportunity to miss his flight thus saving himself further embarrassment. doubt the tsa person did it purposefully as no one wants to mess with urine or feces.
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miami_don replies:
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Your feeling sorry for the TSA Agent? WHAT?!? Give me a break! "
If you cannot or will not understand his situation --- then take your clothes off and pee on them, following that up by putting the urinated cloths back on. Then spend the next few hours in an airplane."
retm-w replies:
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Bet the tsa agent's were laughing about it, they love to try and make you miss a flight, it's a game to them.
linfinster replies:
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Oh, "the opportunity" to miss his flight. Yes, and a grand opportunity it was!! Dipsh*t. I suppose he might have been abole to tell the check in agent the situation and ask if he could change clothes .. maybe the luggage was already on the plane? Anyway, you are an idiot to even think that that should have been the option taken.
retm-w replies:
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linfinster I go to a coffee shop near the airport and hear these tsa agents talking about how many people they made miss flights, it's a big joke to them.
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kamsack50 says:
Thanks to our sophisticated security for preventing terrorism on planes ...Oh, wait, that should be thanks to PASSENGERS for jumping on terrorists in the planes before the bombs go off! Sorry.
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miami_don says:
Maybe I am silly but somehow I think the point that was being made by the reporter has been completely overlooked. Take the terrorist out of the picture and deal with the behavior of TSA.

I previously had blogged about the treatment of my mother-in-law who was in her 80's, a WWII nurse, confined to a wheelchair due to a heart condition and diabetes. She was manhandled by a TSA employee in full view of his supervisor in the Fort Lauderdale International Airport. She cried from the pain.

Therefore if the argument for our government spending millions of dollars to see what I have in my underwear is terrorism --- my question would be at what cost? Please explain to me that the treatment being received by the disabled and elderly is in the interest of national security? Forget the scan. Tell me what humiliation and mistreatment these citizens will encounter and why? Tell me how this was not just violation of this man's dignity but his rights as a human being? If you cannot or will not understand his situation --- then take your clothes off and pee on them, following that up by putting the urinated cloths back on. Then spend the next few hours in an airplane. That treatment is cruel, unnecessary and completely avoidable. TSA needs to get its act together under the complying with the rights of Americans before it is given anymore power.

I can assure you they will manhandle thousands more disabled and elderly than terrorist or drug smugglers. This man is owed more that an apology. My experience with TSA has shown me they are out of control. This matter needs to be resolved in court and Homeland Security needs to determine how to treat friend and foe differently. Most importantly they need to be forced to understand the Americans public is their boss and it will never be the other way around.
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kamsack50 says:
"Predictable" is who the terrorists ARE, and into that we should affect "judgment", something which is abandoned in TSA, as is characteristic with political correctness brain death.
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GunsInTheSky replies:
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"Predictable" is who the terrorists ARE
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Say what? You should stop just anything that pops in your mind to support your position. This time you have tripped yourself up.

The worlds most powerful governments have been spending trillions of dollars of resources for years to disrupt these terrorists, and yet they keep thinking up new ways to kill people.

Not sure what motivates you to have such a simplistic view of our enemy. I'm sure many people are glad our government doesn't listen to you and the like.
bobnjersey replies:
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[The worlds most powerful governments have been spending trillions of dollars of resources for years to disrupt these terrorists, and yet they keep thinking up new ways to kill people. ]
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so ... the investment is paying off? maybe a new strategy is in order. why are they willing to kill themselves? what thought process is in play to lead people to the point where they want to kill themselves and many others?

it really is very simple ... turned into something so complicated ... the only question is who has really made it this way.
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gruven13777 says:
Serves him right. If you're crippled, maybe you shouldn't fly. Who knows if he had a bomb in that urine bag or not. I for one am glad that Obama is cracking down on these criminals.
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retm-w replies:
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You're an A$$.
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kamsack50 says:
Actually my earlier post should have read politically CORRECTNESS inspired TSA screening.
Yes, we are to be so contrite in our apologies for ever, ever suspecting Middle Eastern looking people as terrorist bombers (though it's always Middle Eastern), that we must subject 80 year granny jones and people with body waste bags in place, to genital fondling. Added to that countless airport delays, evacuations for trivial reasons, and otherwise resultant screwups that actually increase the risk of danger, all to show .. what? That we are wonderful liberal Americans who look at ourselves in the mirror and say "I'm not a racist. I'm a wonderful liberal American (and I don't mind what happens to anyone else so I can prove it)".
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GunsInTheSky replies:
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...all to show we aren't as predictable as you would like our security to be.

Didn't we already cover this?
joule18 replies:
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People have forgotten that the most invasive screening is because of the hijacker/murderers of 9/11. They were radical jihadists of the muslim persuasion . . . not kids, not grannies. You have them to thank for this. Profiling works better.
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GunsInTheSky says:
by louiville12 November 22, 2010 5:14 PM EST
Kind of like arguing with a toddler.

Let's sum up your talking points. Since you can't admit that:
- a larger crowd makes for a larger target
-you seem to not understand that they have already made prosthetic replacements for things like breasts that are "Lifelike" (must be due to the fact you're a big talker little doer)
-yes airports in the US are crowded at times (but in Israel they mitigate crowding)and for that reason over the last 40+ years they tell everyone to stay with their bag and that abandoned bags will and are being treated as bombs. (Now why is that? Have YOU talked to them how silly that is???)

So with your limited knowledge you rationalize that, we can only make this safer if we strip search everyone, hundreds of millions of Americans, because of your overblown paranoia of your fellow man.

As far as profiling goes, Israel has been doing it for decades, works REALLY well for them. But hey when this fail and it will you can look forward to body cavity searches right? And every law enforcement agency in the US does it every day.

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Hey don't put this on me. You are the one thinking crowds at airports is something created by the TSA. Speak to any frequent flyer and they will correct your poor assumptions.

And if you ever touch a fake breast you would know that they are not "life like". You can clearly feel the difference.

Why do you think air travel in and out of the US is similar to that of such a meaningless country like israel?

Perhaps you need to go fly a few places and see how your vision of the world doesn't match to reality.
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