We are not at war with Islam. Is Islam at war with us?
Islam is The only correct form of government, The only correct laws, The True religion. These elements compose Islam and can not be separated one from another. The United States Constitution separation of church and state provision does not cover Islam and can not be applied to Islam; Islam is the state, the state is Islam. Islam dictates that all people shall abide by Its Laws, convert to Its beliefs and follow its teachings. No other religion can be tolerated after non-believers have been given the Word of Islam. Believers must spread Islam to all corners of the earth.
N.B. The Koran tells us that it is not a sin to 'mislead' or lie to infidels.
"As part of the offer, it would be agreed that, if you or your representative were to build a mosque, it would be located at least five blocks further from the World Trade Center site."
whatever trump's intenetions are, he is forcing the mosque developer's to show their true colors. So is the rev nutjob. Somebody's lying.
Was it the mosque developers who said they'd gladly sell for 18-20M?
Was it the rev who said he was told 4X by an imam that the mosque would be moved? Regardless of whether you like trump or the nutjob, they are lifting the veil of secrecy surrounding the mosque, and the developer's intentions.
I'm of the opinion that Jones is struggling for survival to maintain a position of leader within his congregation, as small as it may be, it's all he has - and his ego is at stake. For what little I know about the structure of the Islamic institutional system, I get the impression they are not centralized like the Mormons or Catholics. Instead, the Imams have lots of independence and their church structure is basically decentralized, similar to Christian Orthodox. That said, the Imam in Florida had no jurisdiction with what was going on in New York City, therefore, I surmise that Jones is attempting to manipulate the situation such that, he can save face in the eyes of his congregation in light of the international pressure that has come to bear in the last week, and also, create the impression that he has halted an Islamic onslaught. Though his perceptions are ludicrous and methods dangerous plus insulting.
In my opinion, Jones is lying about what really took place at the meeting yesterday. Moving the Mosque was not on the table for negotiation.
this guy is a moron and the more he and his wife talk the more I am convinced they are lying, scheming slimeballs.
"We want peace and harmony" - as long as you do what we want. Somebody is definitely lying if Jones says he was told 4X by an imam that the ground zero mosque was going to be relocated. I want to hear the rest of that story. And I also want to hear from trump, since the bulding's owner said publicly that he'd gladly sell for 18-20M, and trump offered even more.
AND this moron has basically attempted to blackmail the Imams into moving the COMMUNITY CENTER (it is NOT a Mosque no matter how many times we call it that).
I heard an interview with this moron yesterday. He had the gall to say that 'they praued and he and his church decided themselves that it would be a 'sign from God' telling them to NOT burn the Korans IF the Moslim Iman (his exact pronounciation of Imam and Muslim, not mine) 'would move the Mosque from ground zero'.
Who in the heck is he to decided BEFOREHAND that a specific thing is a sign from God? Who died and pronounced him King to make those proclemations. Ohhh wait - he's so self absorbed and full of sinful pride and arrogance that he thinks Jesus died for him and only him. So that HE could tell God what signs to give us.
This man is nothing more than satan dressed in a righteous man's clothes. Using his position of power at this church to convince the weak that they are to follow him into commiting sins against God.
Now, with blackmail, he is breaking mans law too.
And yet - many are so blinded by thier own hate that they don't see this man for what he truly is.
We are not at war with Islam. Is Islam at war with us? Islam is The only correct form of government, The only correct laws, The True religion. These elements compose Islam and can not be separated one from another. The United States Constitution separation of church and state provision does not cover Islam and can not be applied to Islam; Islam is the state, the state is Islam. Islam dictates that all people shall abide by Its Laws, convert to Its beliefs and follow its teachings. No other religion can be tolerated after non-believers have been given the Word of Islam. Believers must spread Islam to all corners of the earth.
N.B. The Koran tells us that it is not a sin to 'mislead' or lie to infidels.
The facts aren't on your side about the community center that's only NEAR the 9/11 site (not 'AT' it like you claim - you can't even get that right).
And if you want fuel for your silly conspiracy theories, there have been 2 actual Mosques near ground zero for dozens of years. The muslims clearly planned this aerial attack dozens of years ago and 'planted' these monuments to thier victory in place 30 or 40 years ago. And waited. And waited. Waiting for when the time was right to strike and then they could capitalize on thier insideous takeover of America by ALREADY HAVING MOSQUES IN STRATEGIC POSITIONS.
I was initially a staunch supporter of the Mosque. The more I listen to the Iman, the more I question his motives. If he wanted to extend his hands in peace and harmony, he'd make a whole lot of friends by moving the mosque. He clearly meant to incite a battle and chose the location very carefully.
Wow. you know this because you've heard him talk about how wrong it is for Americans to burn Korans and tell him to not put a peaceful community center in a building they could get cheaply.
Wow. You're clearly smarter than everyone else and can come up with the absolute truth with nearly no facts and no data.
I saw the interview with Imam Rauf on CNN on Wednesday night and I have to say I thought he was warning; very subtly but definitely, just how far the Muslims are willing to go to get this Mosque built.
Muslims are constantly asking for sensitivity and tolerance from the American people, but just ask the same from them and their response seems to be "Meet our request (actually demands) or we'll take you out everywhere and any way we can,".
Rauf speaks softly, but hides in his words thinly veiled threats.
The Quoran has not yet been burned, yet Muslims in Countries all over the world are already burning American flags, effigies and rioting in the streets; screaming "Death to Americans" and telling the world what atrocities they are going to commit if Jones goes ahead.
This does not sound much like they are willing to profer sensitivity and tolerance toward the US.
My comment to them is, "You should not demand of others that which you are not willing to do yourselves".
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Islam is The only correct form of government, The only correct laws, The True religion. These elements compose Islam and can not be separated one from another. The United States Constitution separation of church and state provision does not cover Islam and can not be applied to Islam; Islam is the state, the state is Islam. Islam dictates that all people shall abide by Its Laws, convert to Its beliefs and follow its teachings. No other religion can be tolerated after non-believers have been given the Word of Islam. Believers must spread Islam to all corners of the earth.
N.B. The Koran tells us that it is not a sin to 'mislead' or lie to infidels.
"As part of the offer, it would be agreed that, if you or your representative were to build a mosque, it would be located at least five blocks further from the World Trade Center site."
Two blocks is completely UNACCEPTABLE!!!!
Seven blocks however is perfectly within reason.
Who deduced that formula?
Too bad the christian can't make the same statement.
He's the biggest publicity ***** I've ever seen. He's doing it to get his name back into the media - to keep his 'brand' fresh in America's mind.
Trump doesn't do anything that's intentionally good for anyone except himself.
Was it the mosque developers who said they'd gladly sell for 18-20M?
Was it the rev who said he was told 4X by an imam that the mosque would be moved? Regardless of whether you like trump or the nutjob, they are lifting the veil of secrecy surrounding the mosque, and the developer's intentions.
In my opinion, Jones is lying about what really took place at the meeting yesterday. Moving the Mosque was not on the table for negotiation.
"We want peace and harmony" - as long as you do what we want. Somebody is definitely lying if Jones says he was told 4X by an imam that the ground zero mosque was going to be relocated. I want to hear the rest of that story. And I also want to hear from trump, since the bulding's owner said publicly that he'd gladly sell for 18-20M, and trump offered even more.
I heard an interview with this moron yesterday. He had the gall to say that 'they praued and he and his church decided themselves that it would be a 'sign from God' telling them to NOT burn the Korans IF the Moslim Iman (his exact pronounciation of Imam and Muslim, not mine) 'would move the Mosque from ground zero'.
Who in the heck is he to decided BEFOREHAND that a specific thing is a sign from God? Who died and pronounced him King to make those proclemations. Ohhh wait - he's so self absorbed and full of sinful pride and arrogance that he thinks Jesus died for him and only him. So that HE could tell God what signs to give us.
This man is nothing more than satan dressed in a righteous man's clothes. Using his position of power at this church to convince the weak that they are to follow him into commiting sins against God.
Now, with blackmail, he is breaking mans law too.
And yet - many are so blinded by thier own hate that they don't see this man for what he truly is.
Islam is The only correct form of government, The only correct laws, The True religion. These elements compose Islam and can not be separated one from another. The United States Constitution separation of church and state provision does not cover Islam and can not be applied to Islam; Islam is the state, the state is Islam. Islam dictates that all people shall abide by Its Laws, convert to Its beliefs and follow its teachings. No other religion can be tolerated after non-believers have been given the Word of Islam. Believers must spread Islam to all corners of the earth.
N.B. The Koran tells us that it is not a sin to 'mislead' or lie to infidels.
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There is NO question, that is what this is about!
The facts aren't on your side about the community center that's only NEAR the 9/11 site (not 'AT' it like you claim - you can't even get that right).
And if you want fuel for your silly conspiracy theories, there have been 2 actual Mosques near ground zero for dozens of years. The muslims clearly planned this aerial attack dozens of years ago and 'planted' these monuments to thier victory in place 30 or 40 years ago. And waited. And waited. Waiting for when the time was right to strike and then they could capitalize on thier insideous takeover of America by ALREADY HAVING MOSQUES IN STRATEGIC POSITIONS.
My god, they're crafty. My God thier smart....
yeah. They sure are smarter than you are.
Wow. You're clearly smarter than everyone else and can come up with the absolute truth with nearly no facts and no data.
I'm impressed.
Muslims are constantly asking for sensitivity and tolerance from the American people, but just ask the same from them and their response seems to be "Meet our request (actually demands) or we'll take you out everywhere and any way we can,".
Rauf speaks softly, but hides in his words thinly veiled threats.
The Quoran has not yet been burned, yet Muslims in Countries all over the world are already burning American flags, effigies and rioting in the streets; screaming "Death to Americans" and telling the world what atrocities they are going to commit if Jones goes ahead.
This does not sound much like they are willing to profer sensitivity and tolerance toward the US.
My comment to them is, "You should not demand of others that which you are not willing to do yourselves".