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BigMykul says:
As I understand it, police can only ask your "papers" if they are stopping you for another offense, not just because you are "brown people". Is this correct?
Many laws start out as secondaries (not main reason for stopping), but then become primaries(main reason or only reason) for stopping the person. An example is seat belt laws. Many states started issuing tickets only if they stopped your for another offense and you were not searing the belt. Now it is a primary reason for stopping a motorist.
I understand that such an example is completely different from the immigration situation, but can attest to time that states expand secondaries to become primaries.
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nohater says:
if officers ask proof of all suspects, regardless of skin color, then no problem. there are illegals here from nations all over the world not just mexico. illegals are here from africa, middle east, china, ukraine, russia, european nations, etc. anyone officers stop should have to prove citizenship.
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Xbeing replies:
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They are trained to spot faulty standard documentation, aka Driver's Licenses and Insurance Cards. On a typical stop, where the person has a valid drivers license and insurance, they won't face any extra questioning.

It has nothing to do with race, because there are illegals from other countries, it's just much easier for those from Mexico, due to the proximity of their border.
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167irishboy says:
That's wild. Seems like times never change.

I get to see first hand how my Irish grandparents were treated when they arrived in America. The Puritans loved those poor stinky uneducated Irish that liked to drink. They had parades for them. They liked the poor Polish and Italians too.

One day there'll be more Hispanics in North America/United States. They will become a large voting block. They may be the ones in power. Wouldn't that be ironic? The other poor hardworking immigrants did just that.

That will be interesting to watch.
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Xbeing replies:
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ZionistCensorship, that's funny... natural born citizenship is when both parents are are citizens of this country. They can be away for what ever reason when giving birth.

Which is why Obama is questioned, since his father was a registered citizen of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth. The UK also didn't allow for dual citizenship and still doesn't in most Providences.
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sweetcakesmaria says:
Hope they got it right because if not, this could lead to a ton of civil rights violations court cases.
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johnlockesghost says:
"Among the opponents of the law was the Obama administration, which challenged the law based on the argument that federal immigration law trumped Arizona law."--Yes it does when enforced, which is something the Obama administration doesn't seem qualified to do.
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Xbeing replies:
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Zionist... the "Separation of Powers" has to do with the extension of decision making to keep the President from having absolute control.

It has nothing to do with the fact that the Constitution was framed that State's were able to enjoy individual say on what happened within their own borders.

There is a reason the name is United STATES of America...

It's quite clear that Federal Law is to supersede when there is a conflict. But the Federal Statue does deem aliens here without proper papers are deemed Illegal... so unless they change that, enforcement at the State level IS the State's responsibility, period.
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ludvig1-2009 says:
I'd like to drive to New Mexico with my foreign wife but am afraid that the Gestapo in Arizona might suspect she's an alien and deport her. I guess I'll have to sidestep that racist state.
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askagain replies:
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ludvig1-2009 - If your wife is here legally, what do you fear? If she isn't here legally, you should have a lot to fear.
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Galactus909 says:
This is great news for the citizens of the United States. Its time for the Federal Government to start enforcing immigration laws. Let the deportations begin.
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gnimelf1968 replies:
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There will be a lot more jobs and everything else for the those of us who are real Americans and don't expect free handouts.
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askagain says:
This is a win for the American people. My identity has been checked hundreds of times over the years. I can't enter our county couthouse, get on an airline, or take a cruise without showing photo proof. And I am an American citizen. We know there are millions of illegal immigrants. If the police can make arrests for assualt, robbery, murder, and rape, they should have the auithority to verify a person's immigration status. It appears that our government would prefer turning a blind eye rather than enforcing immigration laws.
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retmw1 replies:
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So you want to be like Nazi Germany.
askagain replies:
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retmw1 - Not at all. I simply want our laws respected and enforced.
BickRates replies:
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What a concept...Repect our laws and abide by them. Seems that will never happen because certain people/agencies will indeed turn a blind-eye. Unfortunately, it's out of control and will continue to get more out-of-control, until someone with a backbone steps forward and presents a real answer to the problem.
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rnrstar says:
Being that short of trying to use a false ID or SSN, what exactly makes someone suspicious for being an illegal immigrant?
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Blossom8989 replies:
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In AZ if you have brown skin you'd better not leave home without all your ID or you'll be going to jail! Brewer would have made a good Gestapo commandant!