You just refuse to understand that vehicles can kill, bombs can kill, knives and other instruments of death are common, which are NOT gun related.....and trust, someone/I could do more damage with a sharp Samurai sword than any small sidearm could.
Let me ask you this, we know that these mass killers ignore the law against murder, what evidence do you have that they would follow a gun law, if a murder law was so cavalierly ignored ???.....I'd like you to answer that.
Wow! I thought I was watching an episode of South Park there for a minute! Has the Canadian War started? I am glad Mr. Poppo is recovering well as possible, and wish him the best. The interview gives us no new information. I am still very curious as to what happened to Ronald Eugene? My theory is that he was an undiagnosed schizophrenic, the cannabis helped to keep the voices and demons away.
I think its safe to say that unless the news is reporting anything other than murders, is all a lie. Bath salts causing this...***, im guessing they gave him the bath salts and watched it happen then. People who still watch the news need to get the F**k out of their houses and go look at the real world of secrecy and manipulation.
erasmus111, or maybe there is something substantial between my ears, and I don't just automatically jump on the "anti-object" band-wagon, but instead I analyze the situation, the criminal.
If by magic, you could rid the world of all guns......do you really think killing would cease ? of course not, because criminals don't throw their arms up in the air, helpless because you took ONE tool away from them, they have many others.....maybe that's your problem, is you don't fully understand the variety of weapons available to the criminal, that aren't firearms.....here, they just sharpen screwdrivers and stab you in the thoracic cavity which is just as dangerous as any gunshot is.....and they can stab multiple people, very quickly, with little effort...you act like plunging knives, slicing swords, and people being run over are "preferable" to a gun-shot wound, when I would beg to differ.
So, it's actually the opposite, I'm thinking, you are reacting
Of course you won't agree, because we come from different countries and origins.....mine is a country based on rugged independence and individualism.....your is one of dependency on a central government, dependency on local law enforcement for your safety and well-being.
I just realized you were up here and not down at the bottom. : )
"Of course you won't agree, because we come from different countries and origins..."
Change "countries" to "planets". We live in totally different worlds.
"..mine is a country based on rugged independence and individualism..."
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
"..your is one of dependency on a central government, dependency on local law enforcement for your safety and well-being."
We pay our government to look out for our best interests and that is what they do. We choose to have health care for everyone and we choose NOT to have guns. There is no one stopping us from having guns, it's just harder to get one. It makes it harder for the nutcases to get one.
And as for the cops, we pay then to protect us and they do a damn good job. The people do their part in protecting themselves by using COMMON SENSE (something a lot of Americans lack). We take PRECAUTIONS to limit threats and crime against us. We manage very well without guns. Of course you guys have wall to wall crazies living there, we don't. Ever wonder why you have so many mentally unstable people there?
I can't possibly imagine what it would be like to grow up with guns. To have my whole world revolve around them. You guys think it means FREEDOM, but you really don't know what freedom is. Freedom can't possibly mean having to have a gun because you fear everything and everyone. Freedom is NOT having to have a gun to PROTECT yourself. Because there is very little to protect yourself from. There is no freedom in paranoia. You guys IMAGINE there to be a threat from everyone. Even the freakin' Government for heavens sake!
by erasmus111 August 9, 2012 6:13 PM EDT I can't possibly imagine what it would be like to grow up with guns. To have my whole world revolve around them. _________________
I haven't "grow up with guns" and my world doesn't and hasn't ever "revolved around them" in any way.......I don't need one, I think you got the wrong impression, just because I am an advocate of the protection of our Constitutional rights.....there are very few guns in my current "world"......so we probably live very similar lives, just in different countries......what you see in the news, is NOT what it is like in normal life, that is sensationalism, not real life.....you also said, "there is little to protect you from".....how can you say that, with all the murders, and such going on around the world, rapes, burglaries, etc....you act like it's little house on the pararie up there....maybe it is, but that's because you live in Canada
erasmus, I read your article, and they mention the word "brandishing".....you do know that doesn't mean firing, it means showing your gun.....and in many cities around the world, two strange men walking up to you and asking you cryptic questions and repeating them is cause for at least, caution or suspicion.......what this shows is that Canadians are more used to casual banter (chat), while Americans are more "stand-off-ish" you might say......so he wasn't going to shoot the guys, just show them that if by any chance, they MIGHT have alterior motives, or if they WERE criminals/muggers, "move it along, this target fights back." was the message that would be sent, nothing more.
"I read your article, and they mention the word "brandishing".....you do know that doesn't mean firing, it means showing your gun....."
Well, you've got problems if a person can't even be friendly to you and you feel the need to BRANDISH a gun. And please don't tell me that it's that way around the world. Not in most CIVILIZED countries, it isn't. Just in your country, which is becoming more UNCIVILIZED every day. And the only reason they repeated themselves was because the dumb ass es just stood there looking at them like they had horns growing out of their heads, or something. It's pretty bad when you are THAT paranoid!
".......what this shows is that Canadians are more used to casual banter (chat),"
You mean FRIENDLY? It does tell you something else. It tells you that we don't FEAR people.
"...while Americans are more "stand-off-ish" you might say... "
You mean SNOBS? ARROGANT ass es?
"......so he wasn't going to shoot the guys,"
And they knew that? And how do you know that? They could have been unstable. They are lucky they did't get themselves killed by the cops. Guns are not allowed in public. If you own a gun, you can't just carry it around. You have to get a permit to move it from your home to another SPECIFIC destination. And that is the reason why we don't have to worry about getting shot! Our streets are safe because of that. This incident just proves that point. I feel sorry for you that you live in a country where people can't be friendly to one another without worrying that someone is going to shoot you or attack you.
"'move it along, this target fights back.' was the message that would be sent, nothing more."
I will tell you this. They just made themselves and the rest of you look like fools. To be THAT paranoid is pathetic. It says there is something seriously wrong in America.
And that is the reason why we don't have to worry about getting shot!
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and again, you have a very bad mis-conception of life in America.....I have never in my life "worried about being shot", even when I've been in the worst slums of NY, I've never "worried about being shot or being shot-at"......you think we are the wild west and that is just not the reality......the only time in recent memory was in the South Bronx, where my wife is from, werer you can hear gun-fire often coming from the nearby park.....of course, because I am NOT 'worried about being shot', I thought they were fireworks....but that was because I was at the time, a naive country (suburbs) boy.
Take this article......there is a reason why we are cautious about strangers walking up and asking strange questions....because the guy might eat your face off !!!! completely unarmed.....with nothing but his white teeth.
by booooCBSbooooooooooo August 9, 2012 3:21 PM EDT We need to ban teeth now. The hell with the NTA (National Teeth Association). Those, ba,stards!
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by EmpireGeorge______-- August 9, 2012 1:41 PM EDT ...and he bit and ripped his face clean off, and he didn't even use a gun, how about that.....let's ban teeth now....
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No surprise that the two of you still completely miss the point.
Eugene savaged ONE man. Gouged his eyes out and ripped his face off with his teeth. However, the man lived. Barely.
Now, if Eugene had had a gun, and walked into a crowded place with it, how many people would he have managed to KILL before he was stopped?
Jaylah54200, Let's take your own question, and just subsitute the word "gun" for vehicle.
"Now, if Eugene had had a vehicle, and drove into a crowded place with it, how many people would he have managed to KILL before he was stopped?"
Now you will finally understand, that criminals ignore the law, and will simply pick up ANOTHER instrument of death, if a gun isn't available, so by targeting the inanimate object, instead of the criminal themselves, you will forever be chasing objects, while the criminal just grabs one of many tools in his weapon tool box.
Let me ask you this, we know that these mass killers ignore the law against murder, what evidence do you have that they would follow a gun law, if a murder law was so cavalierly ignored ???.....I'd like you to answer that.
America throws people away like their their made in China junk. It mostly happens to men. Why? If America cared about these homeless people, this never would have happened. Did they ever find out what Eugene had in his system to cause this?
"Poppo also denied doing anything to provoke Eugene."
Uh, did you expect him to say he did?
"65-year-old seems relatively resigned to what happened to him."
Well, he did have his eyes plucked out and face chewed up, but it could be that he's happy that he doesn't have to live on the streets anymore. He will be looked after and fed, now.
Of course the hospital could put him in a taxi and have him dropped off on skid row. It's happened before. There are videos of homeless people being dropped of on skid row who are still in their hospital gowns! Ahhhhhh, life in America!
erasmus111, and he bit and ripped his face clean off, and he didn't even use a gun, how about that.....let's ban teeth now.....living on the streets is infinitely better than having no face, losing sight and a life of disfigurment.
erasmus111, or maybe there is something substantial between my ears, and I don't just automatically jump on the anti-object band-wagon, but instead I analyze the situation, the criminal.
If by magic, you could rid the world of all guns......do you really think killing would cease ? of course not, because criminals don't throw their arms up in the air, helpless because you took ONE tool away from them, they have many others.....maybe that's your problem, is you don't fully understand the variety of weapons available to the criminal, that aren't firearms.....here, they just sharpen screwdrivers and stab you in the thoracic cavity which is just as dangerous as any gunshot is.....and they can stab multiple people, very quickly, with little effort...you act like plunging knives, slicing swords, and people being run over are "preferable" to a gun-shot wound, when I would beg to differ.
So, it's actually the opposite, I'm thinking, you are reacting
George, you keep talking about how many other kinds of weapons there are, so why aren't people using them? Why do they choose the gun?
I still say if you take the guns away, there are a good many who will not resort to using anything else. That's lives saved.
And no, you don't have anything between your ears, because anyone with an ounce of brains would be able to see your country has a problem. You are moving backwards, not forwards.
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Jaylah54200, Let's take your own question, and just subsitute the word "gun" for vehicle.
"Now, if Eugene had had a vehicle, and drove into a crowded place with it, how many people would he have managed to KILL before he was stopped?"
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You really should change your name to "Miss_The_Point_Georgy-boy".
In answer to your question, most probably a lot less than he would have if he'd have had a gun.
Let me ask you this, we know that these mass killers ignore the law against murder, what evidence do you have that they would follow a gun law, if a murder law was so cavalierly ignored ???.....I'd like you to answer that.
If by magic, you could rid the world of all guns......do you really think killing would cease ? of course not, because criminals don't throw their arms up in the air, helpless because you took ONE tool away from them, they have many others.....maybe that's your problem, is you don't fully understand the variety of weapons available to the criminal, that aren't firearms.....here, they just sharpen screwdrivers and stab you in the thoracic cavity which is just as dangerous as any gunshot is.....and they can stab multiple people, very quickly, with little effort...you act like plunging knives, slicing swords, and people being run over are "preferable" to a gun-shot wound, when I would beg to differ.
So, it's actually the opposite, I'm thinking, you are reacting
"Of course you won't agree, because we come from different countries and origins..."
Change "countries" to "planets". We live in totally different worlds.
"..mine is a country based on rugged independence and individualism..."
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
"..your is one of dependency on a central government, dependency on local law enforcement for your safety and well-being."
We pay our government to look out for our best interests and that is what they do. We choose to have health care for everyone and we choose NOT to have guns. There is no one stopping us from having guns, it's just harder to get one. It makes it harder for the nutcases to get one.
And as for the cops, we pay then to protect us and they do a damn good job. The people do their part in protecting themselves by using COMMON SENSE (something a lot of Americans lack). We take PRECAUTIONS to limit threats and crime against us. We manage very well without guns. Of course you guys have wall to wall crazies living there, we don't. Ever wonder why you have so many mentally unstable people there?
I can't possibly imagine what it would be like to grow up with guns. To have my whole world revolve around them.
_________________
I haven't "grow up with guns" and my world doesn't and hasn't ever "revolved around them" in any way.......I don't need one, I think you got the wrong impression, just because I am an advocate of the protection of our Constitutional rights.....there are very few guns in my current "world"......so we probably live very similar lives, just in different countries......what you see in the news, is NOT what it is like in normal life, that is sensationalism, not real life.....you also said, "there is little to protect you from".....how can you say that, with all the murders, and such going on around the world, rapes, burglaries, etc....you act like it's little house on the pararie up there....maybe it is, but that's because you live in Canada
Well, you've got problems if a person can't even be friendly to you and you feel the need to BRANDISH a gun. And please don't tell me that it's that way around the world. Not in most CIVILIZED countries, it isn't. Just in your country, which is becoming more UNCIVILIZED every day. And the only reason they repeated themselves was because the dumb ass es just stood there looking at them like they had horns growing out of their heads, or something. It's pretty bad when you are THAT paranoid!
".......what this shows is that Canadians are more used to casual banter (chat),"
You mean FRIENDLY? It does tell you something else. It tells you that we don't FEAR people.
"...while Americans are more "stand-off-ish" you might say... "
You mean SNOBS? ARROGANT ass es?
"......so he wasn't going to shoot the guys,"
And they knew that? And how do you know that? They could have been unstable. They are lucky they did't get themselves killed by the cops. Guns are not allowed in public. If you own a gun, you can't just carry it around. You have to get a permit to move it from your home to another SPECIFIC destination. And that is the reason why we don't have to worry about getting shot! Our streets are safe because of that. This incident just proves that point. I feel sorry for you that you live in a country where people can't be friendly to one another without worrying that someone is going to shoot you or attack you.
"'move it along, this target fights back.' was the message that would be sent, nothing more."
I will tell you this. They just made themselves and the rest of you look like fools. To be THAT paranoid is pathetic. It says there is something seriously wrong in America.
And that is the reason why we don't have to worry about getting shot!
____________
and again, you have a very bad mis-conception of life in America.....I have never in my life "worried about being shot", even when I've been in the worst slums of NY, I've never "worried about being shot or being shot-at"......you think we are the wild west and that is just not the reality......the only time in recent memory was in the South Bronx, where my wife is from, werer you can hear gun-fire often coming from the nearby park.....of course, because I am NOT 'worried about being shot', I thought they were fireworks....but that was because I was at the time, a naive country (suburbs) boy.
Take this article......there is a reason why we are cautious about strangers walking up and asking strange questions....because the guy might eat your face off !!!! completely unarmed.....with nothing but his white teeth.
We need to ban teeth now. The hell with the NTA (National Teeth Association). Those, ba,stards!
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by EmpireGeorge______-- August 9, 2012 1:41 PM EDT
...and he bit and ripped his face clean off, and he didn't even use a gun, how about that.....let's ban teeth now....
______________________
No surprise that the two of you still completely miss the point.
Eugene savaged ONE man. Gouged his eyes out and ripped his face off with his teeth. However, the man lived. Barely.
Now, if Eugene had had a gun, and walked into a crowded place with it, how many people would he have managed to KILL before he was stopped?
"Now, if Eugene had had a vehicle, and drove into a crowded place with it, how many people would he have managed to KILL before he was stopped?"
Now you will finally understand, that criminals ignore the law, and will simply pick up ANOTHER instrument of death, if a gun isn't available, so by targeting the inanimate object, instead of the criminal themselves, you will forever be chasing objects, while the criminal just grabs one of many tools in his weapon tool box.
Let me ask you this, we know that these mass killers ignore the law against murder, what evidence do you have that they would follow a gun law, if a murder law was so cavalierly ignored ???.....I'd like you to answer that.
Uh, did you expect him to say he did?
"65-year-old seems relatively resigned to what happened to him."
Well, he did have his eyes plucked out and face chewed up, but it could be that he's happy that he doesn't have to live on the streets anymore. He will be looked after and fed, now.
Of course the hospital could put him in a taxi and have him dropped off on skid row. It's happened before. There are videos of homeless people being dropped of on skid row who are still in their hospital gowns! Ahhhhhh, life in America!
http://news.sympatico.ca/oped/coffee-talk/american_police_officer_bemoans_lack_of_guns_in_canada/5161d1e6
Well I guess that just depends on what your life is like. Living every day starving to death, and freezing to death in the winter, could be hell.
And your chances of being shot are at least a million times more than having your face chewed off.
If by magic, you could rid the world of all guns......do you really think killing would cease ? of course not, because criminals don't throw their arms up in the air, helpless because you took ONE tool away from them, they have many others.....maybe that's your problem, is you don't fully understand the variety of weapons available to the criminal, that aren't firearms.....here, they just sharpen screwdrivers and stab you in the thoracic cavity which is just as dangerous as any gunshot is.....and they can stab multiple people, very quickly, with little effort...you act like plunging knives, slicing swords, and people being run over are "preferable" to a gun-shot wound, when I would beg to differ.
So, it's actually the opposite, I'm thinking, you are reacting
I still say if you take the guns away, there are a good many who will not resort to using anything else. That's lives saved.
And no, you don't have anything between your ears, because anyone with an ounce of brains would be able to see your country has a problem. You are moving backwards, not forwards.
I'll read your link,
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