If you foolishly believe this type of thing will only effect Catholics you are very wrong. If they can force someone to supply a PRODUCT that they are ethically and religiously opposed to, they can force you to do the same, or to buy things you neither need nor want. I don't need grandaddy government paying for my personal life. I don't use birth control but if I did I would certainly have no problem paying for it myself. It is not even that expensive to begin with. The more we as taxpayers have to pay, the higher our taxes will be and the worse our economy will get. Providing "free" birth control is an insult to women anyway, as if they are too stupid and incompetant to pay for and manage their own personal lives. Also this article is inaccurate. It claims that the so-called morning after pill is not abortifacient. This is incorrect. Biologically speaking, life does begin at conception NOT implantation, and it does work to keep a fertilized egg from implanting. Some women are pregnant for 8-10 days before the zygote implants, and some even have symptoms of pregnancy. But it is true that many republicans have no respect for women, and many liberals have no respect for human life in it's earliest stages.
"If they can force someone to supply a PRODUCT that they are ethically and religiously opposed to, they can force you to do the same, or to buy things you neither need nor want?"....
Imagine going to a pharmacist only to find that the pharmacist will not dispense your medication because it is against their religious beliefs?
Imagine a doctor refusing to treat you or perform a medical procedure because of his religious belief that "there is a season for all things," and that it is simply your time to die?
Its all about MONEY as usual "In its letter, the group said the government should either broaden the exemption for religious employers, or pay directly for the birth control coverage." A majority of the US population does not pay income taxes. People want another freebie. As long as the administration can pawn off freebies without cost to its power, it will do so.
Send the "Roman Catholic Church" back to ROME. They are all pedophiles anyway, including the idiot moron Pope..
Sad they have to talk to a priest, when they could easily bypass them as they are just humans, no closer to God, and in fact most times, much further from him.
I'm married and mother of 4 kids and a member of the Roman Catholic Church, so I'm ready for you to send me "back to ROME." My priests and bishops represent me with boldness and courage and charity and I couldn't be more grateful.
It's amazing that the politics of a nation of 310,000,000 can be sidetracked over a policy that could impact at most 70,000 people and inconvenience them by only an extra $9 a month.
What an interesting form of mathematics you must have learned to get from the statement in the article that one in six Americans get treated in Catholic facility down to 70,000. Wow.
Since this letter was published a public newspaper, I assume it is ok for me to share it with you. I felt it to be profound. This is only an "excerpt" from a letter to the editor printed in the St. Louis Post Dispatch. The writer speaks volumes!
"The humble servant"
"............As a Catholic, however, I continue to be mystified by the lack of understanding by the hierarchy of the humble servant mentality of Jesus Christ. Magnificent jeweled pectoral crosses, gold rings, flamboyant tailor-made vestments, and days of celebration and dining out do not seem to fit in with the simplicity and humility of Jesus, the Carpenter who washed the feet of His disciples. Nor does the terms "elevated" or "prince" (as in one being elevated to the status of prince in the Catholic church), describe Jesus, who came to serve and not to be served."
I am not Catholic, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness or any other 'Bible Thumper'. I "am trying to be" a Christian, but I have a long way to go!!!!!!!! I agree 100% with Mr Denstedt.. If you are trying to "SHOW" how Christian you 'are'...... Then you aren't,,, Christian..
Actually, if one takes the whole bible into consideration, one would see that Jesus Christ was/is a King since he is Full God and Full Man who shares a line of ancestry with King David. Catholics believe that Jesus Christ chose Peter to be his Steward until his second coming. We also believe that Pope Benedict is the successor of Peter since Peter laid his hands (transfer of Authority) on Linus and Linus laid his hands on Anacletus and Anacletus laid his hands on Clement and so on and so forth until this modern age.
The Constitution assures Religious liberty from the government. The government cannot squelch freedom of religion. The separation is put in there by progressive justices later. What it says is that the government cannot rule by religion and tell a jew (or catholic, or presbyterian, or mustlim) they cannot practice their own religion. It certainly does not tell this PResident he can "define" what religion is or isn't. That is what he is doing here, adding a definition of religion. Read about Progressivism you big city guys. Then you will understand what this President is doing to our country. The reason that abortions are so important to him for control of who is born and who lives and dies. The German NAtional Socialist Party used the PRogressives Hand book for developing their policies.
Do you have more faith in the power of our government than you do your God? If not, drop your suit and pray to Him. If he is the same as God I serve, he has all powers.
The God I serve gives life. He commands death. He heals the sick and gives sight to the blind. He causes mountains to tremble and the earth to shake. He commands the powers of the wind and waters and fire, as well as the lightning that can pierce the blackest night.
He once parted the great Red Sea, caused the heavens to rain for 40 days and 40 nights, and consumed a land of sin called Sodom and Gomorrah with an unquenchable fire. He has all powers.
So, instead of praying to your God, you are choosing to appeal to our court system?
This is politics, not religion. There is no religious reason for politicians in the catholic church to deny health care to non-catholic women, when the insurance companies are offering the procedure for free to non-catholics. This is about freedom of choice outside of religion. No one is forcing any religious person to violate their faith. Only GOP wack jobs think of it that way, and we are about to elect more GOP wack jobs wanting bigger government to force THEIR political religion on us.
Federal funds are a form of payment like cash or check. Its like food stamps. Jewish markets are allowed to only sell Kosher food while accepting food stamps. Muslim markets can only sell Halah foods. Vegan markets can sell animal free products only bought in food stamps. Tube tying is not a catholic procedure. People want things both ways. They want others "to follow (their) rules", but they also want the benefits that these institutions may exclusively have. (A self sacrificing affinity for care, and often volunteer services) Non-for-profits Religious based hospitals often give perks. Poor people are getting the benefits of public funds. Nobody owes extra procedures just because the money its drawn from public funds. Just because your poor, doesn't mean your giving a service to the hospital. You are paying a fee for services, a service that they can provide to others if your not around asking for it.
A friend gave birth to a third baby who happened to have Downs Syndrome. She was unaware of this since she did not have pre-natal testing for this disorder. Nevertheless she welcomed the baby but still wanted to go ahead with a planned tubal ligation. Did she have it? No. Why you say? The baby was delivered in a Catholic hospital and they would not perform the procedure. So my friend, who just delivered her 3rd child by Cesarean, had to wait a month, recover from the surgery and shlep across to town to a non-Catholic facility to have another surgical procedure to tie her tubes. When will the Church just shut up, mind their own business, and do what the law says? Never. Why you say? Because as long as the church is ruled by bigoted, old white men who have no clue about the trials and tribulations of life, it will remain that way. Catholic people, wake up and smell that stink in your midst. Just like there are many loaves of bread to choose from in the supermarket, you can remain a Christian without being a Catholic. Some loaves of bread are more palatable than others. Heck, some are even quite good.
...your friend should have selected another hospital...deal with it...don't like it, take the business elsewhere to conform to your preference and not the rights and will of the other...
Its like accepting Cash, or Credit card. Or a market that accepts Food Stamps. Its a way of payment. A Jewish Market is not required to stock non-kosher food even though they acceptFood Stamps. Muslims are not required to stock non- Halal food, Vegans are not required to stock animal products.The federal government is doing the poor person a favor, the poor person is not doing the hospital a favor. The hospital will gladly accept job based insurance or cash.
Federal funds are a form of payment like cash or check. Its like food stamps. Jewish markets are allowed to only sell Kosher food while accepting food stamps. Muslim markets can only sell Halah foods. Vegan markets can sell animal free products only bought in food stamps. Tube tying is not a catholic procedure. People want things both ways. They want others "to follow (their) rules", but they also want the benefits that these institutions may exclusively have. (A self sacrificing affinity for care, and often volunteer services) Non-for-profits Religious based hospitals often give perks. Poor people are getting the benefits of public funds. Nobody owes extra procedures just because the money its drawn from public funds. Just because your poor, doesn't mean your giving a service to the hospital. You are paying a fee for services, a service that they can provide to others if your not around asking for it.
responding to your response to credibility 2... "receive federal funds so play by the rules" is a tired argument. We're supposed to have freedom of religion, freedom of conscience. The government provides funds to Catholic hospitals because they do the work better than anyone and do something the government can't and shouldn't do.
Birth control should be the least of catholic staff worries -perhaps the catholic church might consider substituting extended psychiatric care in order to help combat the higher prospects of sexual abuse induced depression their staff face working for an organization that protects sexual offenders.
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Imagine going to a pharmacist only to find that the pharmacist will not dispense your medication because it is against their religious beliefs?
Imagine a doctor refusing to treat you or perform a medical procedure because of his religious belief that "there is a season for all things," and that it is simply your time to die?
Sad they have to talk to a priest, when they could easily bypass them as they are just humans, no closer to God, and in fact most times, much further from him.
has posted THE solutionto this entire issue!
"The humble servant"
"............As a Catholic, however, I continue to be mystified by the lack of understanding by the hierarchy of the humble servant mentality of Jesus Christ. Magnificent jeweled pectoral crosses, gold rings, flamboyant tailor-made vestments, and days of celebration and dining out do not seem to fit in with the simplicity and humility of Jesus, the Carpenter who washed the feet of His disciples. Nor does the terms "elevated" or "prince" (as in one being elevated to the status of prince in the Catholic church), describe Jesus, who came to serve and not to be served."
as submitted by Mr. Robert T. Denstedt
I am not Catholic, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness or any other 'Bible Thumper'. I "am trying to be" a Christian, but I have a long way to go!!!!!!!!
I agree 100% with Mr Denstedt.. If you are trying to "SHOW" how Christian you 'are'...... Then you aren't,,, Christian..
Do you have more faith in the power of our government than you do your God? If not, drop your suit and pray to Him. If he is the same as God I serve, he has all powers.
The God I serve gives life. He commands death. He heals the sick and gives sight to the blind. He causes mountains to tremble and the earth to shake. He commands the powers of the wind and waters and fire, as well as the lightning that can pierce the blackest night.
He once parted the great Red Sea, caused the heavens to rain for 40 days and 40 nights, and consumed a land of sin called Sodom and Gomorrah with an unquenchable fire. He has all powers.
So, instead of praying to your God, you are choosing to appeal to our court system?
Its like food stamps. Jewish markets are allowed to only sell Kosher food while accepting food stamps. Muslim markets can only sell Halah foods. Vegan markets can sell animal free products only bought in food stamps. Tube tying is not a catholic procedure. People want things both ways. They want others "to follow (their) rules", but they also want the benefits that these institutions may exclusively have. (A self sacrificing affinity for care, and often volunteer services) Non-for-profits Religious based hospitals often give perks. Poor people are getting the benefits of public funds. Nobody owes extra procedures just because the money its drawn from public funds. Just because your poor, doesn't mean your giving a service to the hospital. You are paying a fee for services, a service that they can provide to others if your not around asking for it.
Its like food stamps. Jewish markets are allowed to only sell Kosher food while accepting food stamps. Muslim markets can only sell Halah foods. Vegan markets can sell animal free products only bought in food stamps. Tube tying is not a catholic procedure. People want things both ways. They want others "to follow (their) rules", but they also want the benefits that these institutions may exclusively have. (A self sacrificing affinity for care, and often volunteer services) Non-for-profits Religious based hospitals often give perks. Poor people are getting the benefits of public funds. Nobody owes extra procedures just because the money its drawn from public funds. Just because your poor, doesn't mean your giving a service to the hospital. You are paying a fee for services, a service that they can provide to others if your not around asking for it.