I bet these guys were like the bumbling "nihilists" in The Big Lebowski. These FBI tactics of creating a conspiracy just so they can make high-profile busts is despicable.
Terrorist- a person who through means of violence instills fear into the hearts of there enemy. I cannot imagine these terrorist accomplishing anything else, by blowing up the bridge in question, but no where, do I read in the report that they are being called terrorist? Anarchism, this is bull#### at its best!!! Call them what they are, terrorist! Unless we are being told that you can only be a terrorist if your Muslim or Arab? Racism or Nationalism whichever you wish to call it, it stinks of "BULL####"!!!!!
Oh, yes. these five men did every thing what other Mohammed and Aslam think to do, explosive substance in hand, willingness to blow up an imporatnt bridge and so on, but still they were men, between 25 and 35 years age; individuals, anarchists and confused persons but NOT TERRORISTS. Why because they do not look like Muslims, they do not have Muslim names and they do not have any agendas related to their human rights violations, freedom of their land from their occupiers or are fighting with their dictators. The WAR on terroirsm will never end, unless we change the yard stick of measurement of terrorism and terrorists. Any person of any color or nationality or religion must be treated with the same rules, regulation, name calling and tried and punished with similar intensity as a criminal otherwise we are indirectly breeding the crops of terrorists providing our cool corner. Not only the security agencies should follow these norms but the media also should follow the same yard sticks.
Some people are wacked off with a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate. Of four presidents assassinated, three were Republican and one was a Democrat.
Anarchists don't like government and it probably doesn't matter what a politician's affiliation is.
[Wright suggested blowing up a Federal Reserve bank with a car bomb. He also allegedly said he would consider wearing a suicide vest but would have to be "very drunk" to go through with it.] ----------------------------------------- actually ... he sounds stupid enough that no alcohol would likely be necessary at all.
I really have to stop reading comments on the web, it always makes me sad. It's not even what people are writing but how they write it that makes me sad.
Don't get me wrong, the content of these comments could kill any optimism I have left in this 51-year-old body, also.
We should all give credit to our FBI for patiently cultivating the true terrorist potential in these disaffected youth. leave it to law enforcement to transform what was originally a misdirected political statement ala "FightClub" into something worthy of prosecution. It takes an experienced team of anti-terrorist agents to properly mold the chaos of youthful angst into a vehicle which poses an actual threat to society,,, ( O.K., it also takes a bunch of fake C4, 'cause otherwise it's just a bunch of kids with smoke bombs)
It sounds like this investigation took months, at least. But I suppose that was a small investment of taxpayer dollars when you consider the level of fear it has generated. And that type of fear is necessary if law enforcement is to secure the level of funding it would need to fight the real terrorists.
Wait. I forget. Who were the real terrorists? I know there were some someplace around here... hmmm. Certainly haven't heard much from them lately. Thank goodness the only people who seem to be able to cook up a good terrorist plot work for OUR government. 'cause it would really suck if there were actual terrorists out there.
Entrapment? Not at all. It's only entrapment if the idea (bridge bombing), the intention (encouragement), the means (C4) all come from the government. Moreover, here the accused took concrete steps toward the completion of their dastardly plan: they accepted the governments offer of C4. No normal american 20-something guy would willingly accept plastic explosives, would they?
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Why because they do not look like Muslims, they do not have Muslim names and they do not have any agendas related to their human rights violations, freedom of their land from their occupiers or are fighting with their dictators.
The WAR on terroirsm will never end, unless we change the yard stick of measurement of terrorism and terrorists. Any person of any color or nationality or religion must be treated with the same rules, regulation, name calling and tried and punished with similar intensity as a criminal otherwise we are indirectly breeding the crops of terrorists providing our cool corner. Not only the security agencies should follow these norms but the media also should follow the same yard sticks.
Anarchists don't like government and it probably doesn't matter what a politician's affiliation is.
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actually ... he sounds stupid enough that no alcohol would likely be necessary at all.
Don't get me wrong, the content of these comments could kill any optimism I have left in this 51-year-old body, also.
It sounds like this investigation took months, at least. But I suppose that was a small investment of taxpayer dollars when you consider the level of fear it has generated. And that type of fear is necessary if law enforcement is to secure the level of funding it would need to fight the real terrorists.
Wait. I forget. Who were the real terrorists? I know there were some someplace around here... hmmm. Certainly haven't heard much from them lately. Thank goodness the only people who seem to be able to cook up a good terrorist plot work for OUR government. 'cause it would really suck if there were actual terrorists out there.
Entrapment? Not at all. It's only entrapment if the idea (bridge bombing), the intention (encouragement), the means (C4) all come from the government. Moreover, here the accused took concrete steps toward the completion of their dastardly plan: they accepted the governments offer of C4. No normal american 20-something guy would willingly accept plastic explosives, would they?
At least the christians are trembling....