Seriously people, these Coasties are being prepared to handle the worst situations possible. How can you relate to practicing on a dummy to a combat situation?
This is great training. Those of you who say that you are nurses, etc, how many combat situations have you been in? You are in a controlled environment.
For those of you criticizing the instructors singing, whisteling, making jokes, etc, would it ever cross your mind that they are trying to make light of a situation?
Next time you go to the grocery store, be careful! That meat in the package was once an animal!
Great job Coasties and their instructors!
If killing a goat means my life, or my friends lives are going to be saved on the battlefield one day then I don't care how many goats are killed. I can't believe you people are selfish enough to value the life of a goat over another human. PETA disgusts me.
If cadavers are good enough for med school, there good enough for the Coast Guard. Last time I checked I never heard an ER surgeon say "Wait I did this on a goat once" Ridiculous.
This is DISGUSTING and BARBARIC. This completely made me sick this morning on the news and I am now so depressed and angry at the human race that we think it's ok to do these things to our fellow creatures. IT IS THE YEAR 2012, DON'T WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CREATE A REALISTIC TRAINING DUMMY FOR THESE PROGRAMS WITHOUT BUTCHERING INNOCENT ANIMALS AND CAUSING SUFFERING?!?!?!!?!?! COME ON! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( Anyone that could cut off a live goats legs is a sick disgusting messed up person and I would not want them trying to provide me medical care.
If schools/ agencies need to use animals to teach folks how to save human lives, I'm all for it. I doubt the animals are unanesthetized - it would be easier to conduct the procedure if the animal isn't moving. Killing it first wouldn't train folks on how to deal with blood loss. This is not some kind of sick torture ritual - it's research and training. I don't want a young man who is serving this country to lose a limb because someone thinks goats have civil or human rights. They are livestock - not pets.
I don't think anyone would lose a limb because we use dummies of humans instead of live goats. There is more to this than meets the eye, somebody is supplying these animals, and making a nice profit. Also the amount of anesthestic for a goat would differ from that needed for a larger human. The medic should already know how much anesthetic will be required. Why waste money for anesthetics and pain killers for these "experiments"? I was a scrub nurse and I never saw anyone's legs that resembled the legs of a goat. Use dummies.
"Learning how to apply a tourniquet on a severed goat's leg does not help prepare medical providers to treat an anatomically different human being wounded on the battlefield," according to Dr. Michael P. Murphy, an associate professor of surgery at Indiana University School of Medicine and a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves who served two tours of duty in Iraq. He was among the medical professionals who signed PETA's letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta seeking an end to the practice.
Yes, I'll agree with you it is a form of training. However if those with multiple tours of wartime experience are against it, don't you think it deserves a closer look?
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This is great training. Those of you who say that you are nurses, etc, how many combat situations have you been in? You are in a controlled environment.
For those of you criticizing the instructors singing, whisteling, making jokes, etc, would it ever cross your mind that they are trying to make light of a situation?
Next time you go to the grocery store, be careful! That meat in the package was once an animal!
Great job Coasties and their instructors!
Train medics fully? Yes, absolutely...but NOT like this.
IT IS THE YEAR 2012, DON'T WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CREATE A REALISTIC TRAINING DUMMY FOR THESE PROGRAMS WITHOUT BUTCHERING INNOCENT ANIMALS AND CAUSING SUFFERING?!?!?!!?!?! COME ON! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
Anyone that could cut off a live goats legs is a sick disgusting messed up person and I would not want them trying to provide me medical care.
"Learning how to apply a tourniquet on a severed goat's leg does not help prepare medical providers to treat an anatomically different human being wounded on the battlefield," according to Dr. Michael P. Murphy, an associate professor of surgery at Indiana University School of Medicine and a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves who served two tours of duty in Iraq. He was among the medical professionals who signed PETA's letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta seeking an end to the practice.
Yes, I'll agree with you it is a form of training. However if those with multiple tours of wartime experience are against it, don't you think it deserves a closer look?