Thank you, JustSayIt.
For the rest of you folks, twisting with reaction to this, look up Baron Frederich Wilhelm von Stuben. A Prussian Officer who took the motley crew that was the Continental Army encamped at Valley Forge - turned them into a fighting force that could, and indeed DID defeat the world's greatest army (at the time). Baron von Stuben was a GAY PRUSSIAN officer who in effect created the modern American Army.
Learn some American History ... and get over yourselves.
If you really have a problem with gays in the military, there is a perfectly good solution for you. Give up your rights as American Citizens. Why should you force yourself to live in a country as great as ours that would have the audacity to allow any race, creed, religion, and yes sexual preference to die fighting to defend your right as a citizen? If I were you I would book the first flight to Syria. Don't let the American Flag stomp you in the pants on the way out!
I dont care who serves in our military. Thats what you dont get.
My problem is with two lesbians selling $1 tickets to watch them kiss after a 80 day deployment and every one of the other 300+ people on that ships return were overshadowed by this event. THAT is my problem.
As far as your slanderous comment to leave this country......it isnt even worth my effort to respond to it.
Then my response to you is that I don't believe that the Navy posted or advertised the ticket sales as come watch the first Lesbian Kiss as the ship disembarks. I think that the WHOLE event held a $1 admission fee and that these two ladies were selected as a photo op. Believe me, the other sailors could give a $2 dollar bill who was chosen as the photo op, they were too busy looking for their loved ones. Anything that brings positive light or attention to any of our servicemembers coming home I am all for. It happens everyday. Now if you don't care who serves in our military, then the whole give up your rights wasn't meant for you. I would like for you to explain my comment as slanderous, maybe to people who would defame service members, then yes, I would slander that.
No it wasnt $1 to watch the WHOLE event. It was $1 ticket sold to watch the lesbians kiss. Since when have you seen any return of our service members cost you to witness it? Absurd remark!!!
The return of this ship was about so much more than this "event" but it overshadowed the return of the 300+ other members of our military's return from the USS Oak Hill.
You dont get it and the only thing you are focused on is the "gays in the military" not the return of the service members of the USS Oak Hill.
it was a raffle where the people on board buy a RAFFLE ticket in hopes that they'll win. If they win, they get to be the first one off the boat, and they get to have their first kiss in front of the crowd. there was no selling of tickets to spectators to watch a lesbian kiss. read the articles first before you start spouting ignorance
To the more than 300 Sailors, Marines, Soldiers, Airmen and Coast Guardsman which came home on the USS Oak Hill, welcome home and thank you for your service!!
Sorry that tickets sold for a lesbian first kiss overcame your welcome home celebration.
Aarghhh! This is terrible! I'd better study this photo... at length... to, um, analyze the social and moral ramifications of this terrible gay act between two hot babes, I mean, sinful heathens!! Aarghh!
For people that gays are second class citizen, this changes everything for the better. This is not true this is a DISGUSING and DISRESPECTFUL to all military families everywhere. This really does show you how twisted and wrong our goverment is to allow something like this. I do not come from a military family, but i now alot of military families and this is wrong. The goverment needs to step in and change this before it gets out of hand, wait it already has.
Ther is no such thing as predjudice in a foxhole during a fire fight and that is all that matters when the heat is on and all you have is five gay men and four of them are excellent shots.
I'm from a 3 generation military family and know well the feelings of my family service members. They don't give a crap if gays and lesbians serve or once in a blue moon receive attention for small things like this. The world will not crumble to see a tiny amount of levity and affection between two women, men or mixed sexes. It's a wimp with a thin skin that gets offended, pissed off or bent out of shape over such things. I'm ashamed and dismayed to see so many comments left by hateful, moralizing, judgemental cowards.
A single kiss is just that. Get over it. Times change, societies evolve.
Seems many are just angry about it and experiencing growing pains. Deal with it and suck it up. You aren't boss, and need to accept not everything is going to be as you want it to be. The world and our society has variety, all sorts of people and that's what gives it strength- it's not having that which makes it weak and one sided, brittle, vulnerable.
The US military finally represents the reality of our society at large, the world at large. Throughout history the knee jerk reaction to resist change and stick blindingly to any inflexible mentality has crippled America and held it back. Think about it like a Marine or Navy Seal who requires a wide variety of training to be The Best. They aren't let lose with anger and a gun, they are mature, disciplined, have to face mighty tests and difficulties few can imagine. In the end they come out stronger, tougher, because they are nimble, have multiple skills, think independently within a group, and do not attack their own when under stress. This cannot be said about the flimsy "character" of those who hide behind their keyboards here spouting borderline terrorist, tired, one dimensional comments about US soldiers and their fellow citizens here.
Furthermore those who call these women sick (and other gays) are no different than how Taliban and Al Qaeda accuse all others of being weak morally, too permissive, frauds for not living up to their twisted version of what's morally 'right'. They are a suicidal people who actively attack and terrorize those around them who they deem as lesser/inferior/unholy for not fitting into their own narrow personal, twisted, psychopathic geopolitical and perverted religious view. They are often uneducated, fearful, controlling. Our extremists here think much the same way, they hate anything that appears to be different, progressive or generally not to their personal liking.
Think about the result of such hate. Show me one successful society that thrives, prospers, and is free and happy when such hateful people rule it with narrowly definitions of the cultural norms? Be brave, ask yourself what are the hallmarks of truly free, peaceful societies/cities? In that scenario can you honestly say gays and lesbians are not apart of the social fabric? That they have no value and should not serve in the military and all other governmental positions? That they don't have, need, or deserve respect and at minimum, the right to live free as you do?
USA is wack- I can only imagine that your sign in name relates to your hate for our country and I imagine that you are typing your comment from somewhere in Iran. No self respecting, USA loving American citizen would call a servicmember coming home to a loved one abhorrent behavior. Get. Bent.
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For the rest of you folks, twisting with reaction to this, look up Baron Frederich Wilhelm von Stuben. A Prussian Officer who took the motley crew that was the Continental Army encamped at Valley Forge - turned them into a fighting force that could, and indeed DID defeat the world's greatest army (at the time). Baron von Stuben was a GAY PRUSSIAN officer who in effect created the modern American Army.
Learn some American History ... and get over yourselves.
My problem is with two lesbians selling $1 tickets to watch them kiss after a 80 day deployment and every one of the other 300+ people on that ships return were overshadowed by this event. THAT is my problem.
As far as your slanderous comment to leave this country......it isnt even worth my effort to respond to it.
The return of this ship was about so much more than this "event" but it overshadowed the return of the 300+ other members of our military's return from the USS Oak Hill.
You dont get it and the only thing you are focused on is the "gays in the military" not the return of the service members of the USS Oak Hill.
Conversation closed!
Sorry that tickets sold for a lesbian first kiss overcame your welcome home celebration.
A single kiss is just that. Get over it. Times change, societies evolve.
Seems many are just angry about it and experiencing growing pains. Deal with it and suck it up. You aren't boss, and need to accept not everything is going to be as you want it to be. The world and our society has variety, all sorts of people and that's what gives it strength- it's not having that which makes it weak and one sided, brittle, vulnerable.
The US military finally represents the reality of our society at large, the world at large. Throughout history the knee jerk reaction to resist change and stick blindingly to any inflexible mentality has crippled America and held it back. Think about it like a Marine or Navy Seal who requires a wide variety of training to be The Best. They aren't let lose with anger and a gun, they are mature, disciplined, have to face mighty tests and difficulties few can imagine. In the end they come out stronger, tougher, because they are nimble, have multiple skills, think independently within a group, and do not attack their own when under stress. This cannot be said about the flimsy "character" of those who hide behind their keyboards here spouting borderline terrorist, tired, one dimensional comments about US soldiers and their fellow citizens here.
Furthermore those who call these women sick (and other gays) are no different than how Taliban and Al Qaeda accuse all others of being weak morally, too permissive, frauds for not living up to their twisted version of what's morally 'right'. They are a suicidal people who actively attack and terrorize those around them who they deem as lesser/inferior/unholy for not fitting into their own narrow personal, twisted, psychopathic geopolitical and perverted religious view. They are often uneducated, fearful, controlling. Our extremists here think much the same way, they hate anything that appears to be different, progressive or generally not to their personal liking.
Think about the result of such hate. Show me one successful society that thrives, prospers, and is free and happy when such hateful people rule it with narrowly definitions of the cultural norms? Be brave, ask yourself what are the hallmarks of truly free, peaceful societies/cities? In that scenario can you honestly say gays and lesbians are not apart of the social fabric? That they have no value and should not serve in the military and all other governmental positions? That they don't have, need, or deserve respect and at minimum, the right to live free as you do?