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29-year-old Hit by Mixing Blade Falls into 8-Foot Vat of Boiling Chocolate

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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:56 AM EDT
cry us a river this is not a eulogy board it is a blog. People write what they please--and if they steer clear of curse words and threats, CBS will probably print it--we don't like blog police--it is bad enough that CBS has to censor us--but most people ignore posters who think they have been elected blog monitors. if the family does not like the posts--they should not be reading the blog--like bad tv and books--avoid what you do not want to read or watch.
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:54 AM EDT
donuts are usually FRIED in a vat of boiling oil...good luck with that. LOL
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:54 AM EDT
People subjected to water at the pools in Yellowstone died after temps of 120 degrees which is enough to give 3rd degree burns. One does not have to approach 212 degrees to burn to death.
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:47 AM EDT
" by ibsteve2u July 10, 2009 12:46 PM PDT
Yup...when I see "temporary worker", I immediately think high turnover, inexperienced, under-trained, unmotivated, and at risk.

But none of that matters to the employing company, 'cuz temps are cheappppppp..."

You are very unfair to temp workers. Most ARE motivated and try to be good workers--people take temp jobs either to supplement their income OR to get their foot into a company and hope to get picked up and get their contract bought for full time employment. Many regular employees start working for a company as temps. Companies actually pay more per hour for temps--but not to the worker, to the temp agency--if they decide the worker is great, they can offer to buy out the contract which can be quite expensive. Many companies like temps because it allows them to use cheaper labor and audition potential employees without committment or probation for that employee.
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:43 AM EDT
YOu don't know what you are talking about. If you take over 8 reg strength Tylenol in a 24 hour period, you can damage your liver. In addition, other drugs and caffiene and alcohol potentiate Tylenol. which means it makes the drug stronger. Why is that important? Because if you do that pretty often, within a few years of Chronic use of Tylenol you will be dead of liver failure--that is why. Liver failure has increased exponentially because many people do not realize that not only is Acetemeniphen the active ingredient of Tylenol, it is also the pain killer in many Rx drugs too. Why does this matter? Because if you have renal or liver failure--your chances of getting a liver transplant are about 1 million to one and your chance of finding a donor in time is also very slim--so the FDA SHOULD put a limit and warning on Tylenol and should have done so years ago.

As for the factory--the FDA is concerned SOLELY with safety and efficacy of the product NOT the employee. The employee is only considered solely on the basis of them be deleterious to the process and thus the product.

Safety is the concern of OSHA NOT the FDA
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:33 AM EDT
a hole in the platform? CAn we say multimillion dollar lawsuit and OSHA crawling all over the place?
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:32 AM EDT
Pure chocolate is NOT sweet--it is very, very bitter. Only after sugar is added and the chocolate is cut with milk powder does chocolate approach being edible.
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
They'd know. Crap may be brown like chocolate--but it certainly would not smell like chocolate.
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT
--how does a blade hit a person who is pouring chocolate in? Aren't the blades in the vat? How could the blade have reached the man on a walkway and batted him in? Is everyone sure he was not pushed? OSHA--check this out.

And also...please account for all ingredients used to compound that particular batch of chocolate--we want to make sure it got destroyed or removed for investigation and to be destroyed later--we don't need shades of Willy Wonka Augustus Gloop in our chocolate.
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by nopucker July 13, 2009 12:48 AM EDT
I wonder if he crapped his pants? No one would ever know...
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by toldyouso29 July 13, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
They'd know. Crap may be brown like chocolate--but it certainly would not smell like chocolate.
by Laubri651 August 1, 2009 8:28 AM EDT
if he did i want to throw it on u..nasty hope my cousin hunts ur dumb behind u a hole
by Morton_U_Kanandel July 13, 2009 12:08 AM EDT
While this is obviously a tragedy and I don't mean to demean it, it also was the premise of a comedy sketch at The Second City in Chicago over 40 years ago. Mourners at a funeral tried to keep a straight face while hearing the details of the death of a man who fell into a vat of chocolate. The idea was later recycled on the Mary Tyler Moore show in an episode about Chuckles the Clown. "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants." Truth stranger than fiction?
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
My sympathies go out to the family and friends
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Really? Then make sure you put on enough postage to mail your sympathies to Mexico, Guatemala, Taiwan, or Vietnam.

Because probably that's where he got into the shipping container he was smuggled into the country in.
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
He was a lousy temp worker who took a job away from someone who used to have a full-time job with benefits. What about THAT guy's family? He's the one I feel sorry for.

At least half the people in the factory are illegal workers or they're there on H1b visas, and they don't speak English.

The whole idea of a totally untrained temp worker getting hit in the head by a chocolate mixer and falling into the vat is just so typical of what's wrong with our fouled up economy today. They'd rather see somebody die in a vat of chocolate than pay a permanent full-time worker a decent wage and benefits.

Why is that funny? Because there's not a d@*n thing we can do about it, and until evey single temp worker, illegal worker, and H1b visa worker falls into a vat and dies, our economy is going down the toilet because nobody has a decent job anymore.

And then along comes Madoff and steals everybody's money, and neither Democrat nor Republican administration can catch him.
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:13 PM EDT
Yup...when I see "temporary worker", I immediately think high turnover, inexperienced, under-trained, unmotivated, and at risk.
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Me, too. You pick right up on that temp worker thing. They save a lot of money on training by not doing any.

And did you notice, they outsourced the mixing to another company. Another layer to deny liability.

I'm surprised the story didn't mention that the workers who pulled the guy out of the vat entered the country illegally.

And the factory owner is an Asian guy who doesn't speak English. He came to this country on an H1b visa.

The vat was made in China.

The chocolate was being mixed with lard and brown artificial coloring to "stretch" it.

The guy got hit in the head because he dropped the toilet plunger he was using to push the chocolate into the vat, and he was reaching in to try to get it back. The toilet was clogged again, so the janitor needed it back.

The factory was purchased with a subprime loan, and it is getting foreclosed next week.
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:04 PM EDT
The same thing would happen today if they are afraid the employee might talk
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Then they'll make sure the empolyee doesn't talk.

Then they'll sell the batch.

Remember the contaminated peanut butter?

It failed the salmonella test twice, but the factory owner had it re-tested again until it passed, so he could sell it.

He didn't seem afraid of any consequences at the time.
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by Thalia-9 July 12, 2009 4:32 PM EDT
LOLOL! me too cs4466! first thing i thought about was the fat german kid..."Agustus! Agustus!" sorry!!! very bad form...sorry! dang weird assocaiation of the mind!
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by eurekaresident July 12, 2009 2:59 PM EDT
As sad as and industrial death is, I couldn't beleive the headline and the first thing I thought of was the famous Smother's Brother's song which I know by heart! I loved those guys.

Condolences to the family
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by lovethenews July 12, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
You people are stupid. This man was somebody's son, father, brother or husband. Have a little respect. My sympathies go out to the family and friends, I am sorry for your loss.
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
My sympathies go out to the family and friends
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Really? Then make sure you put on enough postage to mail your sympathies to Mexico, Guatemala, Taiwan, or Vietnam.

Because probably that's where he got into the shipping container he was smuggled into the country in.
by southofyou July 12, 2009 9:26 AM EDT
Have we become so desynthesized to death that we find this funny? This young man was someone?s son. Dying on earth is different than it is in a video game or on TV. People who are left behind grieve. Please be respectful of his family.
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by darthcheney345 July 12, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
He was a lousy temp worker who took a job away from someone who used to have a full-time job with benefits. What about THAT guy's family? He's the one I feel sorry for.

At least half the people in the factory are illegal workers or they're there on H1b visas, and they don't speak English.

The whole idea of a totally untrained temp worker getting hit in the head by a chocolate mixer and falling into the vat is just so typical of what's wrong with our fouled up economy today. They'd rather see somebody die in a vat of chocolate than pay a permanent full-time worker a decent wage and benefits.

Why is that funny? Because there's not a d@*n thing we can do about it, and until evey single temp worker, illegal worker, and H1b visa worker falls into a vat and dies, our economy is going down the toilet because nobody has a decent job anymore.

And then along comes Madoff and steals everybody's money, and neither Democrat nor Republican administration can catch him.
by stickdog3 July 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT
Lighten up darthcheney345 southofyou has a point. I don't much care for illegals myself, but, I wouldn't want anyone taken out like this guy. History has shown all those workers that were displaced will find their way, and their calling.
To you other bloggers, show a little class.
by summarex July 12, 2009 8:26 AM EDT
The same thing would happen today if they are afraid the employee might talk. A company can be shut down instantly if they cover something like this up.
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