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Three Victims in Critical Condition After Masked Assailants Fire Into Crowd of Teens at Bus Stop

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by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:50 PM EDT
The real problem IS THE NRA!! They are an organized group of GUN SELLERS who own the US congress and have brainwashed all of you imbeciles into thinking you can "defend yourselves" with your guns when the facts prove otherwise.

The NUMBER ONE FATAL OUTCOME OF GUN OWNERSHIP IS SUICIDE. It is NOT "shooting a criminal to save your life". It is KILLING YOURSELF! If you have a gun in your home, your odds of dying from gunfire INCREASE! The odds of your wife, GF, kids, friends, and neighbors of dying by gunfire also INCREASE!

Guns don't promote "safety". They just promote DEATH!
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by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
Then those teens likely would have killed MORE innocent people as they tried to defend themselves. Even highly trained cops can't defend themselves with guns-- they are ALWAYS carrying, yet they get killed all the time! Without very specific, very intense and stressful training, repeated at least every other month, NOBODY is very good at defending themselves with a gun when they are being attacked. Because you refuse to face up to this fact, all of you gun nutz are a serious danger to everyone else. Armed and delusional-- that's NOT a recipe for safety!
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by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
"Law abiding gun owners are extremely rare to have been to blame for something like this. Illegal gun owners are to blame" -- Netterz

You have NO EVIDENCE to prove that statement. The NRA has worked tirelessly to make sure that cops NEVER report whether or not the shooter was a "legal" gun owner or not, just like they NEVER report whether or not the owner had a concealed carry permit (the other LIE the NRA gets you morons to mindlessly repeat is that "law abiding" gun owners with CC permits never commit crimes).

You're right, however, that it's not the "piece of metal" that is to blame for killing people. The blame lies with the NRA and all the stupid, suicidal, anarchists who insist that they, and every other effing imbecile, has a "right" to carry around a piece of metal that has only ONE purpose: to kill people... and then they want us to quit complaining when they end up killing people with those pieces of metal!

We KNOW this world is full of crazy, stupid, depressed, suicidal, criminal, and-or murderous people. WHY they h3ll should be let all those lunatics have guns? Do we all WANT to die? I, for one, do NOT.
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by curiously1 June 30, 2009 5:37 PM EDT
We need capital punishment in all 50 states. Also, try and punish 16 year olds and up as adults.
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by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:54 PM EDT
That won't help one bit.

At the moment someone takes a gun and kills someone with it, the killer is NOT thinking about the law, NOT thinking about possible punishment. He is thinking about KILLING, if he is thinking at all.

It may make you feel better to suggest more punishment for more people, but it just does NOT work.
by stn_sage June 30, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
I agree with Fred---it won't help much! The point is, if someone has DECIDED that someone else "needs to go", that's it! You're not going to change that person's mind! The threat of capital punishment isn't going to stop him...or her!

As it stands, 16 year olds ARE now tried and punished as adults in many states, though I can't give you an exact figure on how many!

I was going to say next that the best solution is to keep society running as efficiently as possible and minimize the amount of "insults" that the average person has to take during the typical day---

But, heck! The U.S. is going to 'h*e*l*l in a hand-cart' thanks to Bush and the Republithugs, and team Obama isn't doing much better, SO, I have no great solutions to proffer on this!
by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
Ah... Proud gun owners, using their "constitutional right to 'defend' themselves"!
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by swat_556 June 30, 2009 6:43 PM EDT
And Fred, when you take guns away from the law abiding citizens that turn them over to the government, do you think the masked men in that van would turn in their guns?

The federal government should fear a well armed population. End of story. And if you are a law abiding citizen with no histyory of spouse of child abuse or a felony, then you should be able to own ANY firearm you want. Hell I should be able to buy a fully automatic 50 cal, but the gun grabbers already ruined that.
by dwilson59 June 30, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
I will be in detroit next week good thing I have concealed License.
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by dartplayer501 July 1, 2009 9:29 AM EDT
Do you get special dispensation to take your gun on the airplane?
by ToolMangler1 June 30, 2009 4:59 PM EDT
I agree 100%.
Poeple know the problems, but many parents don't want to stay home and raise the children right, (Male & Female). They want the 'State to raise their children and give the parents a 'free' ride while doing it. Bill Cosby isn't just speaking to Blacks, but many people say "Yeah!!! Bill, You tell them ****** how to behave". The same people point a finger at 'X' as the cause but can't see that they are pointing 'three fingers back at themselves........
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by Netterz June 30, 2009 4:58 PM EDT
Such idiotic statements about the NRA, OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH gUNS period shows such lack of understanding, had they ran over them all with the 'green van' would you still be squaking like an uneducated fool, and blaming the auto industry, or the state for giving this person a license to kill with a 3 thousand lb chunk of steel calling it a drivers license?

Law abiding gun owners are extremely rare to have been to blame for something like this. Illegal gun owners are to blame. They also steal cars to commit there crimes, but I dont hear anyone barking about that, nor the drugs they sell, or other violent acts they commit to climb there gang ladders by murderous initiations. Guns can not kill people, cars can not kill people, knives can not kill people.

You can not blame ANY peice of metal for causing the death of ANY one......but you CAN blame the person hiding behind the peice of metal. Maybe we should take away all over your cars, and kitchen utensis, and anything else that can be used as a weapon...... you would be sitting on the ground nakid in your own front yard...after working several yrs in a prison... AYTHING can be turned into a weapon.
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by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT
"Law abiding gun owners are extremely rare to have been to blame for something like this. Illegal gun owners are to blame" -- Netterz

You have NO EVIDENCE to prove that statement. The NRA has worked tirelessly to make sure that cops NEVER report whether or not the shooter was a "legal" gun owner or not, just like they NEVER report whether or not the owner had a concealed carry permit (the other LIE the NRA gets you morons to mindlessly repeat is that "law abiding" gun owners with CC permits never commit crimes).

You're right, however, that it's not the "piece of metal" that is to blame for killing people. The blame lies with the NRA and all the stupid, suicidal, anarchists who insist that they, and every other effing imbecile, has a "right" to carry around a piece of metal that has only ONE purpose: to kill people... and then they want us to quit complaining when they end up killing people with those pieces of metal!

We KNOW this world is full of crazy, stupid, depressed, suicidal, criminal, and-or murderous people. WHY they h3ll should be let all those lunatics have guns? Do we all WANT to die? I, for one, do NOT.
by dwilson59 June 30, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
I for one leave my office at 11pm at night. At times I have to drop off deposits to the bank. Yes I live in a bad area of town. I am greatfull I can carry a gun.
by gunownerdan June 30, 2009 4:44 PM EDT
Thank god the gunmen used guns and not an SUV. People would have surely died.
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by gunownerdan June 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT
It's a lot easier to just blame guns or the NRA rather than to solve the real problems.
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by ToolMangler1 June 30, 2009 4:59 PM EDT
I agree 100%.
Poeple know the problems, but many parents don't want to stay home and raise the children right, (Male & Female). They want the 'State to raise their children and give the parents a 'free' ride while doing it. Bill Cosby isn't just speaking to Blacks, but many people say "Yeah!!! Bill, You tell them ****** how to behave". The same people point a finger at 'X' as the cause but can't see that they are pointing 'three fingers back at themselves........
by fred-mertz June 30, 2009 5:50 PM EDT
The real problem IS THE NRA!! They are an organized group of GUN SELLERS who own the US congress and have brainwashed all of you imbeciles into thinking you can "defend yourselves" with your guns when the facts prove otherwise.

The NUMBER ONE FATAL OUTCOME OF GUN OWNERSHIP IS SUICIDE. It is NOT "shooting a criminal to save your life". It is KILLING YOURSELF! If you have a gun in your home, your odds of dying from gunfire INCREASE! The odds of your wife, GF, kids, friends, and neighbors of dying by gunfire also INCREASE!

Guns don't promote "safety". They just promote DEATH!
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