Comments on: Stanford Student Assails Rice On Torture

Former Secretary Of State Defends Guantanamo Interrogations

[boatdocster]

"If you were there in a position of authority and watched Americans jump out of 80 story buildings because these murderous tyrants went after innocent people, then you were determined to do anything that you could, that was legal, to prevent that from happening," Rice said, referring to the September 11th terrorist attacks.

The problem here - Rice and all the rest knew that what they were doing was NOT LEGAL under US or International law.

We hung people after WW II for doing the exact same things that Rice purports to be A-OK...

[tincup356]

Of course, Ms Rice is correct: water-boarding is NOT a near-drowning technique- the subject is never in danger of drowning.

And water-boarding is NOT torture- there is no physical harm to the subject.

The snarky student that attempted to confront her was a typical self-righteous Obot, with sweeping generalizations and ?knows? an awful lot of stuff that isn?t true.

Condi did the right thing in the now defunct War on Terror, and has nothing to hide. She doesn?t need to take any crap about it from some college kid, either? perhaps he wasn?t aware she was drawn from Stanford, and is quite familiar with his type.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/
Posted by reaganitegop at 4:36 PM : May 1, 2009 .....................
What the republican party did to this country for the last eight years was appalling,,,,,,and what the democrats are doing now ,,,is just as bad.,,,,,,,,BOTH parties do not care about the people of this country,,,,they are addicted to the lobby dollars and are a worse threat to this country than than anything we face.,,EVERY single economic problem we face is the fruit of 50 years of lobby tainted legislation by BOTH parties.....If our government cared about the people they would not be sending us to bankruptcy by staying in two LIE wars at a cost of 10 billion a month. they would be really trying to help the people instead of robbing us , our children, and their children.

[bigsk8fan]

a stanford student told condoleeza rice that the usa never used torture during wwII. and rice said that nazi germany never attacked the usa. oh really! i guess rice was never a student of history. germany put spies on usa soil. there were attacks just off the coast on usa shipping. there was an event on the horseshoe curve caused by the nazis.

[starleo146]

I know Americans do not believe in torture,I do believe in punishment under our rule of law,, what is making me mad about all this, is they sit in a office, and change our laws to suit them, and say what ever the president does"|Is LAW". This is what infuriates me how arrogant and unlawful they were, to go into a country and say this, and that, is why they are wrong, and whatever papers they have are just that papers, and should be used against them.Why have a congress to set laws if a President and his henchmen can just arbitrarily change laws to suit the circumstances at hand unbelievable and truly a disgrace get rid of the Patriot Act another piece of crap.Our justice dept. will, really be busy for a long time trying to sort out all they did do. We have not heard the last of this

[reaganitegop]

Of course, Ms Rice is correct: water-boarding is NOT a near-drowning technique- the subject is never in danger of drowning.

And water-boarding is NOT torture- there is no physical harm to the subject.

The snarky student that attempted to confront her was a typical self-righteous Obot, with sweeping generalizations and ?knows? an awful lot of stuff that isn?t true.

Condi did the right thing in the now defunct War on Terror, and has nothing to hide. She doesn?t need to take any crap about it from some college kid, either? perhaps he wasn?t aware she was drawn from Stanford, and is quite familiar with his type.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

[Tu_eres]

Posted by kansas1946
We aren't in Kansas anymore tootoo

[kansas1946]

Just another evil apologist for the Bush administration. I wish they would all just stay home and be quiet. They did enough damage while they were in office.

[Tu_eres]

I want to see Rice get repeatedly waterboarded. They could do it pay-per-view
Buck-toothed bimbo deserved it.
Posted by mcthreeteeth
Well said mcretard

[martel_v]

"In WWII the enemy wore uniforms, those who did not could be shot as spies. Maybe we should have just shot these guys, but then we would have had a second ground zero in LA. This is a different kind of war and requires different tactics." ~~ dknelson353

That second 'ground zero' in L.A. was not stopped as a result of torture - although Karl Rove and Dick Cheney have both said it was. Of course, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are incapable of speaking truth.

Quoted from President Bush in the press release titled Fact Sheet: Keeping America Safe From Attack, published May 23, 2007: "In 2002, we broke up a plot by KSM to hijack an airplane and fly it into the tallest building on the West Coast. During a hearing at Guantanamo Bay two months ago [March, 2007], KSM stated that the intended target was the Library Tower in Los Angeles."

Oh, and khalid sheikh muhammed (KSM) wasn't waterboarded until 2005 - 186 times in one month. So 186 episodes of torture produced something we already knew - since the alleged perpetrators of the possible attack in L.A. were apprehended (not by Americans) in 2002.

For those who don't get it because your former president and his minions wouldn't possibly tell thousands of lies to further their private agenda (read the "Project For a New American Century", written by Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc., well before the election in 2000, which called for the invasion of Iraq for the purpose of controlling Iraqi oil and coercing the obedience of the other countries of the Middle East), torture does NOT produce actionable intelligence...unless there are thousands of operatives in the field to verify each and every statement produced by any given torture victim. People who are tortured do NOT tell the truth. In fact, they lie as a matter of course. They tell lie after lie after lie...each one different. They do NOT lie in order to confuse their torturers, though. They lie because they will say ANYTHING in order to find the one thing they can say which will stop the torture. In other words, for those with no ability to think this through rationally, the individual being tortured will eventually - given enough time and enough torture sessions - say what his torturers want him to say...which is the whole purpose of torture in the first place.

[stn_sage]

To Questionews:

Posted by Questionews at 2:34 PM : May 1, 2009
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The term 'conspiracy theory' is a loaded phrase that is used to denigrate those who do not accept senseless explanations for situations and events that appear to be more complex than first glance would suggest!

It is especially used by those who are guilty of elaborate conspiracies, to demean those who
are not easily duped into believing their illogical, phony assertions and stories!

If you look into it, research it---you will be shocked at what you discover! Don't allow
South Park depictions of reality to overly sway your worldview!

Finally, I'm not really attempting to persuade anyone---in this case, I was just stating an opinion, nothing more!