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Couples Prepare To Head Down The Aisle As State Becomes 3rd To Allow Same-Sex Marriage
- Lots of bigotry and hate around these days. People try to justify it by saying it isn't bigotry and it isn't hate... "oh look how disgusting this is!", as if their personal dislike was some sort of automatic qualifier for supernatural damnation.
They forget (or wish to obscure) that being g.ay isn't about s.ex. It isn't about labels or religion or politics or laws. It's about who you are capable of loving, body and soul, and being loved by in return. It defines a culture that has existed as long as mankind itself has existed.
Some people really hate g.ay and lesbian people. I can't say for sure why. Is it because we're not 100% like them? Is it because we may not share their religion? Is it because they don't personally share the same feelings? I don't know. But it is because of that hatred, exemplified in posts here, a g.ay man or woman might get shot, robbed, beaten or staked out on a fence in Wyoming and left to die. That's what it means to hate.
Most g.ay and lesbian people have the courage to stand up to that hate, and we do. Some give into it, and begin to hate themselves. All I know is that I know who I love, and why, and there isn't enough hatred, bigotry, rhetoric or ignorance in all the world to change that.
As time passes, civil rights are being recognized for g.ay and lesbian people, and many of the old bigotries tend to fade. But there will always be a few, like some who post here, that will seek to destroy instead of understand. - Reply to this comment
- The Aftermath of San Diego's Gay Pride Extravaganza! How not to act in the public arena. So Sad!
A jury in San Diego has decided local firefighters have the right to refuse to participate in the city's "gay pride" parade.
The Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) sued on the firefighters' behalf after the San Diego Fire Department forced them to participate in the parade and retaliated against them for complaining about the harassment they endured during the event.
After the lawsuit, the Fire Department changed its policy.
?Many people may mistakenly think the ?gay pride? parade is merely a ?fun? event,? said Joe Infranco, senior counsel for ADF. ?They never would have imagined the crude sexual harassment these firefighters were forced to endure.
"In truth, the goal of homosexual advocates is to undermine society?s long-held values. They continue to seek this, whether by demanding participation in ?gay pride? parades or by trampling the democratic process to redefine marriage.? - Reply to this comment
- Two Girls don't talk about getting married they just keep it in private and thats how it should be ....But men like barney frank pretend to be psychologist so then they can try to rationalize this deviant behaviour and the marriage farce .....just like we hetrosexuals would rationalize kinky sex with a woman ....You are right Girl girls are interesting though...Italians love watching girl girls going at each other...lolol
Posted by Elysiumwarrior at 10:17 PM : Apr 27, 2009
Wow you're massively ignorant. I know several married lesbian couples now. In fact, compared to gay men, marriage among lesbians is even more prevalent. These are simple facts. Why are you here? Are you so threatened by gay men that you need this endless posturing as a security blanket? Trust me, no gay man in his right mind would be interested in YOU. - Reply to this comment
- Leave married people in peace wherever they may reside.
Posted by tokio_motel at 10:17 PM : Apr 27, 2009
Yeah, Amen brother from another mother. - Reply to this comment
- i can't believe how much you people actually care about this.
and to the religious right, you are a bunch of fascists. YES YOU ARE. - Reply to this comment
- It's interesting that so many straight people here are blogging about something that is none of their business. If you want your neighbors, friends, and strangers opining about your marriage, that is fine. But foe the most part, I think most married couples, both gay and straight, just want other people to MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS. Church people should focus on their own sinfulness and shortcomings before GOD. I believe that the book of Romans declares that no one is sin-LESS. So, without Jesus, everyone is doomed according to evangelicals. So why don't evangelicals and conservative christians follow their own faith? America is a secular country with secular laws....if you don't want to give Caesar his due, then move to Iran...I hear that theocracy is thriving there. And everybody there is afraid and terrified of being exposed for breaking some religious law and being publically punished. Evangelicals should be at home in Iran. Leave married people in peace wherever they may reside.
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- My point? I believe the labels themselves are really the root of most issues like this.
Posted by slownewsday05 at 10:11 PM : Apr 27, 2009
You believe labels are the root cause behind issues such as intolerance, bigotry and hatred? - Reply to this comment
- How tragic to watch this nation slowily succumbing to the forces of evil.
Its like watching a great ship slowly filling with water and going under, just like the Titanic,. All because they would not listen to logic and ignored the warnings. - Reply to this comment
- This is about love, not sex. I hope so, because no married couple I know has sex on any kind of regular basis.
I think this is a problem of labels - what's "normal" and what's "deviant". No one will ever agree on labels.
I had a friend who came out to me right before coming out to her parents. I said I'd known for 5 years. She couldn't believe it, and almost strangled me. She'd only known for six months. She was pissed at me that I hadn't said anything.
I had always seen it, and she hadn't. I could see that it was part of her nature. We each have individual natures...
To me, what's so obviously natural can't be deviant. To others, it is.
My point? I believe the labels themselves are really the root of most issues like this. - Reply to this comment
- I see all the so-called "straight" men here spent most of their day/night talking about gay sex. I think that says something right there.
Congratulations Iowa, for standing up for civil rights for gay and lesbian people. Thank you. - Reply to this comment
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