Comments on: Poll: Rise In Americans With No Religion

15 Percent Do Not Identify With A Faith; Catholics Remain Largest Religious Group

[dougnshannon]

Your argument is that you are not religious. Don't try to divert the topic. A belief in the supernatural in defining your value system does in fact make you religious.
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 10:20 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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I don't believe God to be supernatural if I was created in the image of Him. He may be supernatural to you, since you niether know Him or believe in Him, but rest assured one day you will meet Him..

[dougnshannon]

The square root of -1 has nothing to do with morals or values. Another bad example. But feel free to try again.
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 9:41 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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but it does with the supernatural same as ghosts and anything not explain..be a little precise with your words unless you consider ghostbusters a religion as well

[dougnshannon]

My original point with was it's funny to me that most liberals are atheists and believe in evolution, which strongly supports the doctrine of "only the strong will evovle and survive", yet your type of govenrment continues to spoon feed the poor and support the taxing welfare system of this country..

[dougnshannon]

Any argument past here should answer that directly, if you can actually practice logic.
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 9:46 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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because my belief system does not equal yours that makes me wrong? whos to say you are right? surely not you since you don't know everything. Furthermore emperical thinking is based on observations and in the case of morality it passed down from gereration to generation so to say that your belief is purely empirical would be making the claim that you solely exsist in this universe, otherwise your observations are skewed by human nature and enviromental factors

[dougnshannon]

religion: the beliefs, attitudes, emotions, behavior, ect constituting man's relationship with powers and principles of the universe..straight from the Funk and Wagnalls dictionary. The laws of physics are powers and principles of the universe but I would hardly call gravity a religion

[dougnshannon]

The difference is that you believe in the supernatural, and I do not.


Still can't find that definition, can you? I'm waiting... Otherwise, you DO practice religion, other than in your own manufactured definition which only has to do with sects of your religion.
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 9:25 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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So you practice the same morals as I yet your standard would not be considered religious and mine are? remember you claimed religions were based on a belief system correct? and your belief system is basically the same as mine correct? I chose to attach God to mine and you don't therefore i'm religious and you are not? your logic is not logical

[dougnshannon]

Once again Webster asserted the term Supernatural, which supernatural by definition can be attributed to anything that can't be explain with common logic. Under that terminology the square root of -1 would be supernatural

[dougnshannon]

Furthermore who is to say Webster was correct in his assertion that religion is the belief in the suprnatural? Certainly Webster DID NOT know all the truths in life, otherwise he would still be alive. With that in mind did he really know anything? Something simple as a rock for instance..we call it a rock because that's what we are told, but is it really a rock? A little philosphy for ya since religions and philosphy go hand in hand.

[dougnshannon]

That is the very definition of religion. Look it up.

Again, you haven't presented a definition from a respectably unbiased source which contradicts what I am saying, nor supports what you are saying.
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 9:15 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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I beleive the sun will rise tomorrow as many people will do as well, but I don't see the "sun-risers" religion. No where in the Bible did God call his paln of salvation a religion..the religion was attached to the Biblet by man not God..

[dougnshannon]

No, not mine. I don't require an external set of instructions.


"would you call gun control which is based on moral issues religion? "

No, I wouldn't, because they do not require a belief in the supernatural.

Still can't find me a definition which would back you up, eh?
Posted by slownewsday2009 at 9:10 AM : Mar 11, 2009
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so what would you say your morals, assuming you have them, are based on? We would both agree that killing is wrong correct? How about stealing? Adultery? Lying? and so on, so these same basic rules of morality most of the world agrees should be adhered to, which is exactly what Jesus's example set...so what's the difference between me and you? You claim you have no religion yet live by the same "standards" as I who chose to except the gift of salvation from Christ..