Comments on: Obama Preparing Order To Close Guantanamo

President-Elect Expected To Order Shut Down Of U.S. Military Prison In First Week On The Job

[briannorwood]

If these guys at Gitmo are so damned dangerous, then why can''t we put them on trial? That whole thing just doesn''t smell right.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Obama will be the shame of our nation." Posted by GOPHwy71

So, you think that he will continue the Bush policies, and you consider this a shame, but you don''t consider Bush to be the originator of that shame?

Typical.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Quit changing the subject loser. You''''re wrong. Read the Constitution, and then promptly S T F U!" Posted by Eliphord

Reading is fundamental, I have posted the exact portions of the international convention on human rights, and the relevant clauses of the Geneva convention that Bush has violated, you must have missed it.

As for the constitution, you are welcome to show where torture is legalized by the constitution, if you cannot, then you are simply spewing more nonsense drivel to justify having been suckered by the Bush lies.

[brianbwb-2009]

"... No, I never believed Saddam was responsible for 9/11, but I do believe that his mentality is the same as Al Qaeda and we didn''''t need evidence to know that Saddam was "the"%

[brianbwb-2009]

"... No, I never believed Saddam was responsible for 9/11, but I do believe that his mentality is the same as Al Qaeda and we didn''''t need evidence to know that Saddam was "the" WMD." Posted by promaclaura

Belief does not hold up in court, without proof then you are a supporter of exactly the type of thuggery of which you accused Saddam, murder, torture, and other crimes against humanity committed without proof of your beliefs.

Public records not only show that Saddam was a sworn enemy of Al Qaweda, but they also show that Al Qaeda is a database of arms smugglers, assassins, and drug runners, created, trained, armed and funded by the CIA to be the US proxy in the Russian-Afghanistan conflict.

[gophwy71]

Obama will be the shame of our nation.

[promaclaura]

The main difference being if these so-called "terrorists" captured you, it would most likely be because you were in their land causing harm. Since Iraq was not involved in 9/11, and therefore did not attack us, your rationale for kidnapping and torturing them is?


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Posted by brianbwb at 08:44 AM : Jan 13, 2009

One point you should know, I supported ousting Saddam during the First Gulf War. That belief never wavered based on whose in Office. Bill Clinton layed out the groundwork for why Saddam should go and that lasted his entire time in office. No, I never believed Saddam was responsible for 9/11, but I do believe that his mentality is the same as Al Qaeda and we didn''t need evidence to know that Saddam was "the" WMD.

[rafterman1]

===Of course you have this documented...===
Posted by brianbwb

I''m sure Rush and Hannity will back him up.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Later this year, expect outrage from the newly registered voters when they find out they really will have to pay their mortgages and gas will not be free as implied when they were asked to register." Posted by assemblyofso

Of course you have this documented...

[brianbwb-2009]

"Our military personnel have submitted to "water boarding" as part of their training. A Fox correspondent volunteered to be "water boarded" as a demonstration for the public. I would volunteer any day to be "water boarded" verses "loping off my head" which is the terrorist form of handling prisoners." Posted by promaclaura

The main difference being if these so-called "terrorists" captured you, it would most likely be because you were in their land causing harm. Since Iraq was not involved in 9/11, and therefore did not attack us, your rationale for kidnapping and torturing them is?

[assemblyofso]

CHANGE WE CAN BELEIVE IN

It seems Obama is getting cold feet and just putting out a bunch of Rhetoric. He admitted this weekend that there are extremely dangerous people in custody and he really doesn''t know what to do with them. Once agein, it appears to be just another shallow campaign promise. He is no different and offers no change. Bet you less than half of his campaign promises will be kept.

Later this year, expect outrage from the newly registered voters when they find out they really will have to pay their mortgages and gas will not be free as implied when they were asked to register.

[brianbwb-2009]

"ROFL...that must be why you''''re on the CBSNews forums, instead of the Mensa forums, or Quantum Physics for Nerds forums." Posted by Eliphord

Well like all the rest, this one has run out of logic, and so tries to squirm an irrelevant attempt at insult. You still have not shown how these victims are guilty of anything.

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by I_H_Libturds

You can indeed laugh, but still you did not answer.

[brianbwb-2009]

"brianbwb - Listen you moron. They have recaptured a number of Gitmo detainess that were let go. So don;t give us that innocent BS. You''''re a pitiful little man. Go away now." Posted by guyfrompa50

Facts with references would go a long way toward showing that while deluded you are not a complete idiot, so list your references, not some made up spew.

[brianbwb-2009]

"brianbwb- Actuall quite the opposite.. You apparently need help. Do you think they just pick people off the street and start to interogate them for no reason. You really are an idiot. I can''''t waste anymore time on you..." NEXT. Posted by guyfrompa50

Remedial reading might be in order for you, because in most cases that is exactly what they did, the press is replete with the incidents where college students were dragged out of bed, neighbors sold the husband of a female they wanted to "get with'' and many other such incidents, and in other cases people were sold for a $3K bounty.

Murat Kurnaz for example, was known not to have links to terrorists, was never charged, and US officials even knew he was innocent. Imprisoned and tortured for five years, he is only one example of the majority of people the US kidnapped.

[promaclaura]

You didn''''t answer the question, would you submit to torture if someone suggested that doing so might save American lives?


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Posted by brianbwb at 08:10 AM : Jan 13, 2009

Our military personnel have submitted to "water boarding" as part of their training. A Fox correspondent volunteered to be "water boarded" as a demonstration for the public. I would volunteer any day to be "water boarded" verses "loping off my head" which is the terrorist form of handling prisoners.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I am sure there are die hard terrorists in gitmo, but those arent the ones we would release anyways. Give them due process, then kill them, release them, jail em indefinently, w/e. But give them a trial." Posted by mccarthy51

Excellent point, but it does beg the question if there is proof that there are "terrorists" there, why has the evidence not been presented in court by now?

[brianbwb-2009]

"brianbwb - OK you have officially lost your mind." Posted by guyfrompa50

Not really, it is just that my mind is above your ability to comprehend.

[brianbwb-2009]

"We''d see you change your tune if you were directly affected by an atack. Give me a break" Posted by guyfrompa50

Which would be the only time that it would be appropriate.

Only cowards live in fear of what might happen, the brave deal with what happens.

[Mccarthyaw]

People are saying that everyone in gitmo is a terrorist, and they deserve whatever they get. This is despite they were never charged with a single crime. Many of the people in gitmo were just put in there on word of mouth and even sold to the US. Take Murat Kurnaz as a prime example. Did nothing, was never charged, and officials even knew he was innocent. Imprisoned and tortured for five years. That place is a disgrace. Don''t get me wrong, I am sure there are die hard terrorists in gitmo, but those arent the ones we would release anyways. Give them due process, then kill them, release them, jail em indefinently, w/e. But give them a trial.