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Police: Mother, Ex-Wife's Attorney Were On Calif. Man's Hit List
- Guns are more a nuisance than a benefit. Guns at home increase the chances of suicide, homicide, and accidental death in your household. How does that translate into "protecting" them?
Posted by remrafbn at 07:12 PM : Dec 30, 2008
If you believe that guns are a nuisance, then dont bring one into your home!
Its funny though how in perilous times such as rioting in this country, there is always a run of people on the gun stores trying to buy protection for their family. I prefer to be ready at all times to fend off anyone at any time without having to run to the store or wait days for a "waiting period" to expire. And thanks to the election of our new God Obama, there is a HUGE run on the gun stores going on!!!
I''ve had guns around me since I was knee high. I am many decades older now and have been able to "safely" enjoy owning, practicing with and using firearms to harvest MANY different animals, all without any advice from know it all do-gooders like you. - Reply to this comment
- This is such a tragic and sick event. I wasn''t married and divorced with the woman so I can''t say how I would have felt. No one knows the real story of what led to this point. Forget the guns kill people issue. People kill people. I can kill someone with a car, with a hammer, with a tv, with a bookcase, etc. Guns are here to stay no matter what bleeding heart liberal says. It''s protected in the constitution. If there''s one thing to take away from this - I think people should take a harder look at the people and the families they are marrying into before they make the big jump. They should make premarital counseling mandatory in this country.
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- Atleast he won''t be resurrected as the Easter Bunny!
Seriously though, I feel terrible for what happened to them. - Reply to this comment
- To all you VERY SICK *** striving for a better understanding of why this psychopath "snapped", please understand that BEFORE he snapped he was a person who possessed firearms with the intent to use them and the cold calculating tenacity to build a flamethrower, and when he "snapped" he decided to use them on many others FIRST and THEN himself, instead of using it on HIMSELF FIRST.
Just like many others before him. THESE very undeserving of sympathy worst of the worst ALWAYS shoot themselves LAST with the same guns they have held warmly in their hands so often in the past with rehearsed anticipation of the results, and NEVER FIRST.
It takes more than someone who "snapped" to coldy go through nine of eleven individuals on a list, torch the house, and THEN kill himself first -- that takes someone like people who can find it in their heart to forgive such an action with better understanding. I wouldn''t mind seeing a complete autobiographical breakdown of your capacity to forgive, because it seems like most of you own guns yourselves AND believe in capital punishment. That sounds more like a SICK desire to carry out justice as you see fit.
The only understanding I can see from this, is a definite sociological epidemic of family murdering that''s re-inforced by sickos reading news reports that characterize these as anti-hero tragedies instead of child murdering atrocities. - Reply to this comment
- The sad truth, is that it is open season on both males and females in this country. The courts are overloaded, and are breaking at the seams. Obviously, it would have been great if the "system" had not failed this man or folks that he killed, hence SOMEONE should have seen this coming.
The answer is not more guns, it is fewer guns. I know the NRA hates to hear it, but it is sure is easier to kill many people with a gun than it is with a knife or some other weapon. For those of you who think "I will be safe, I have a gun to defend myself"; face the fact that most police who are shot, are shot with their own weapon.
I live near a large city and the whole newscast is on the local drive-by shootings. "18 year old shot in face, 11 year old girl shot while sitting in her own living room and dies, 6 year old boy shot while playing on scooter he got for Christmas." Is the answer really more guns... It seems we have plenty to go around.
My prayers go to the folks involved in this tragedy. Please folks, guns are not the answer and never have been. - Reply to this comment
- Please---argue all you want about people getting screwed in divorces or about gun control laws--but what it comes down to is this-- There was NO REASON to shoot the young child who answered the door or any of the other innocent victims who happened to be at the residence.
Pardo was one sick and demented psycho and it makes me want to throw up that there are people on here defending his actions.
How can anybody justify what he did?
To all those who are---what a sad world you live in. - Reply to this comment
- At a family holiday gathering with children in the privacy of a family home, I doubt pistols were on hips or in pockets, and I don''t think that''s unreasonable- nor do I find it reasonable to suggest that they should have been. Had weapons been kept in the home, as quickly as this must have happened, I doubt anyone had time to even flee, let alone flee to arm themselves. It''s an unpredictable act that I doubt many would have been more prepared for than this family. You can get away with saying that a single bullet could have minimized this tragedy, but you shouldn''t fault the family for not being prepared to do so.
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- Do people really think that in some way, because the court system failed this man, nine innocent people were killed? What about agency and accountability? I''m not going to argue that people take advantage of the way the system is set up. But if people were decent and honest, we wouldn''t need laws to make people take care of responsibilities. What about all of the kids that suffer because of fathers that don''t help when they should? Laws aren''t fair because people aren''t fair. "The System" will never be able to make everyone happy, and it is our dependency upon that system to make things right that makes it so weak.
What bothers me about this story, is all the comments victimizing this guy - like what he did wasn''t his fault. So... he got screwed over in a divorce and he had no other choice but to kill nine people. Naturally, this is the first thing someone would think to do! I don''t care what she did - nine people did not deserve to die for anything and it''s nobody''s fault but his. - Reply to this comment
- "Sure, one armed individual could have shot this guy and killed him. Also, one armed individual could have shot this guy, hit the tank of fuel, causing it to kill everyone that was in the house instead of just the few who did die.
Destruction begets Destruction. Violence begets Violence. " --- cronos12
Try not to pull your back out whilst stretching for that improbable scenario. Put your straw man back in the closet and post a comment based upon solid logic and fact rather than conjecture and feel-good BS. What would you propose, hugging him to death? I''m not advocating violence for the sake of violence. If you read the statement I made you''ll realize I was speaking of action in the name of self-defense or self-preservation, if you will. Self-defense is neither destruction nor violence. Your ignorance gives me a headache; does it hurt you as well? - Reply to this comment
- kyohl: I disagree. I didn''t actually know his real name until you used it. I would much rather use some nickname for this guy than give him the honor of calling him by his real name. Bruce was a human being. I didn''t know Bruce. All I know is some guy who killed a bunch of people. I don''t want to know his name. I just want to know he''s not here anymore.
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- NonCustodialParents must "come out of the closet" due to the lopsided court system. NY lakersfan knows first hand what it is like. I''ve been there. I lost my job and still had to pay my ex to get her fingernails done, new clothes for her so she could party while my 2 children wore clothing with holes and too small. Ready to make a change? Time to take a stand so the court system will be fair? Noncustodialparents@gmail.com
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- I love how people ignore the role they themselves played in choosing these lousy spouses. The deceased wife CHOSE this mental case. The deceased gunmen CHOSE that wife (whom he detested). If she was horrible, this trifling idiot found a way to absolve himself of the role he played in choosing her. People obviously do not have any criteria to use in selecting a mate, if they end up with people like this. The only reasonable solution (for me) is being single. You can keep all of this, and all the quarrels, ego-blows, butt-kissing & idiocy of married life.
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- Wow. I''m not the only one thinking of this poor demented soul who lost everything and the lost his mind. Good to see some humanity still exists.
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- You can pin whatever wrap you want on someone once their dead. The press is trying to play down the fact that his ex wife fleeced him. Granted, the ends far ouweighed the means but you just cannot let this information get out the the sheeple they might get ideas.
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- What he did was horrific and incomprehensible. However, the cause of his hopelessness that lead to his mental breakdown needs to be understood. The media loves investigating at great depth his actions. But what about the actions of a family court system that has become so hyper-concerned about the rights of women that it literally punishes men for failed marriages.
Buried in one news story was the brief mention that the court originally awarded his ex-wife more than $3100 a MONTH in spousal support after only TWO YEARS of marriage with no children involved. Then ... after he loses his job ... the court still rules that he has to pay her a $10,000 cash settlement so he can keep his house ... a house he owned BEFORE he married her. AND the court awards her HIS dog. HIS DOG. The only reason she would want HIS dog is to be nasty and vindictive AND the court allowed it.
I have personally experienced family court in this country and have many male friends who have been through it. It is currently nothing more or less than a legal emasculation of men. It leaves men feeling absolutely helpless and without hope for a future life of any type. As long as the courts continue in this lopsided manner, more nutcases will be pushed over the edge. - Reply to this comment
- THE MAN GETS RIPPED OFF BY THE EX-WIFE AGAIN!! He lost his job, wife, and dog. What about how he felt. His ex felt good enough to party but he could only think of how bleak his future looked with no job, wife, dog and still responsible for paying the ex alimony?!?!?!? Court systems in this country are all screwed up. These laws MUST be changed so tragedys like this will stop. Got a few minutes? Google Men, divorce and suicide to see the real picture.
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- "One armed individual could have stopped this man. Think about that." - emailscottg
Sure, one armed individual could have shot this guy and killed him. Also, one armed individual could have shot this guy, hit the tank of fuel, causing it to kill everyone that was in the house instead of just the few who did die.
Destruction begets Destruction. Violence begets Violence. - Reply to this comment
- kyohl: I disagree. I didn''t actually know his real name until you used it. I would much rather use some nickname for this guy than give him the honor of calling him by his real name. Bruce was a human being. I didn''t know Bruce. All I know is some guy who killed a bunch of people. I don''t want to know his name. I just want to know he''s not here anymore.
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- kyohl: I disagree. I didn''t actually know his real name until you used it. I would much rather use some nickname for this guy than give him the honor of calling him by his real name. Bruce was a human being. I didn''t know Bruce. All I know is some guy who killed a bunch of people. I don''t want to know his name. I just want to know he''s not here anymore.
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- This is terribly sad and unfortunate. It would be interesting to hear the facts of the divorce; in many cases divorce attorneys instigate trouble in divorce cases to generate income by using children and money as weapons against one of the parents. False charges of spouse or child abuse are used to gain control and limit child visitations or ruin other parents credibility. Unfortunately, this goes unchecked because attorneys are like a union, they don''t police themselves and they can hide behind the law.
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