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Senate Report Says Abuse Of Detainees Was Result Of Administration Policies
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- No surprise here! THe do nothing Dems in congress have blamed Bush for everything else why would this situation be any different?
Posted by notblue at 11:13 AM : Dec 12, 2008
Is Russ Limbaugh giving you "your opinion" again? He does that to people like you. Read the report. It is bi-partisan (although I doubt if you know the meaning of that word) and your McCain was in it too.
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- No surprise here! THe do nothing Dems in congress have blamed Bush for everything else why would this situation be any different?
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- what bush did not see coming is that LIBERALS WILL BE MROE WORRIED AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND WELL-BEING OF TERORRISTS THAT THIER FELLOW AMERICANS
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- By lowering ourselves to the level of the Barbarian, we have proven ourselves no better.
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Posted by LloydBest1 at 10:10 AM : Dec 12, 2008
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because we ARE barbarians..we are a chromosome away from an ape..we are no different from a caveman..the only difference is that we learn enough for survival..
to think that gave us the false sense of superiority.
even you..if i push the right buttons..will show your barbaric self.. - Reply to this comment
- Whether "harsh" interrogation methods worked or not is not the point.
The point is we are bound by certain rules of engagement; the first of which is not to be involved in wars "of choice" for national pride or personal gain in the first place. Our involvement in Iraq and, maybe, Afganistan was already tainted by our real (as opposed to stated) reasons for going in.
Next, our treatment of prisoners of war is specifically limited by the Geneva convnetion, the U.S. constitution and our own cultural ethics. We must follow those guidelines and policies regardless of the enemy''s conduct. During WWII we conducted ourselves honorably (more or less) in spite of the fact both Germany and Japan''s behavior to POW''s and civilians was as bad or worse than that of our present emnemies.
Lastly, America is not just a nation of people but one of ideals. Those ideals define us more than our standard of living, our relative wealth or our freedom of choices. They allow us to take a leadership position in world affairs and sets a framework that permits our allies and adversaries to trust we will use our tremendous power wisely and humanely.
The Bush administration''s sabotage of those ideals in the prosecution of a war that should never have been fought to begin with has deprived us of one of the most effective levers we had as a positive global influence. By lowering ourselves to the level of the Barbarian, we have proven ourselves no better. - Reply to this comment
- There is a famous story that exemplifies the reasons why torture was abandoned. It happened during the days of the Spanish Inquisition.
A man was brought before one of the chief inquisitors and stripped naked - as was/is the norm. Then he was shown all the tools of the trade that would be used on him if he didn''t confess and name names. He told the inquisitor that he would hold out as long as he could under torture. And then give only one name. That name would be that of the chief inquisitor himself - dancing with the devil and spewing vile curses on officials of the church/government.
He was released immediately. - Reply to this comment
- That posting by "bilcelkng" just goes to show how warped and perverted organized religion can be on weak minds. This religious pervert and other christian perverts like him (of which there are, unfortunately, many) are too simple minded to understand their hypocricy. They are either completely ignorant of the actual teachings of the bible, or simply use it as a means to their warped and sadistic ends. People like this are no better than the Taliban or Al Qida. Religion is simply a front for their hatred, self loathing and lust for the pain and suffering of anyone who isn''t exactly like them.
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These orders came from Bush and yet it was the soldiers that took the fall and went to prison.
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- JUST REMEMBER 9/11, Im sure President Bush and the interogators are on Gods Side and its these terrorists which are going to burn in hell. Thank God for the info we got out of these nuts that stopped many other attacks.
Desperate times call for desperate measures!!
Posted by bilcelkng
It''s never been proven that anything we tortured out of these people resulted in an attack being stopped. When your raison d''etre in a fight is because you are on the side of right, it is stupid to think that lowering yourself to use the other''s tactics does not impact your humanity and your right to tell others wh
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- Bush is reponcible for alot more than just this, he should be up on charges for crimes against humanity.
Posted by REPUBLISCUMS at 08:17 AM : Dec 12, 2008
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And you should be up on charges for pooping in the gene pool. - Reply to this comment
Author Thomas Friedman on Obama's Afghanistan plan and the war on terror.
