Comments on: Wal-Mart Sued Over Stampede Death

Family Of N.Y. Man Trampled To Death By Mob On Black Friday Also Suing Mall, Police Dept.

[whitemale08]

It''s amazing to see all of the ''serfs'' posting a defense for Wal-Mart.

I hope the family sues Wal-Mart for every penny they got so all of these ''big-box-retailers'' can go down in flames.

That way we can go back to a ''boutique-style'' small business type retailer that sells products made right here in America.

Globalization has FAILED and it KILLS people.

We can do better then this.

[rixmix98]

Sorry but I do kinda see Wal Mart being at fault; at least somewhat.

I think it was their responsibility to adequate staff (be it security, greeters, checkers, etc.) when the doors opened. Also, I read somewhere that the guy was not properly trained. Black Friday is not a new concept in America. I just believe they were not well prepared.

Just my thoughts.

[jtizzle611]

Exactly how is this Wal-mart''s fault?? There were thousands of other stores open on Black Friday that didn''t have any incidents. It''s the fault of all of the people waiting in the line that are greedy and like useless "stuff".

[skysoldier75]

If you incite a riot (for whatever reason) of course you can expect to be held legally accountable for any consequences that occur as a result.

So it has always been, and so it will always be.

Any store running this sort of sale risks being held responsible for anything that their customers do to employees or to each other while on their premises.

Advertising "doorbuster" deals to hundreds of millions of people nationwide, fully anticipating that hundreds or thousands of customers will respond at each store location, while clearly stating in advance that there will only be a mere handful of each of the "doorbuster" items actually available at each store - first come, first served, and when they''re gone they''re gone - well, that is clearly conspiring to incite a riot in my book.

So I would surely decide if I were sitting on the jury in this case. It''s a total no-brainer.

The moral of the story is: Businesses need to either be prepared to hire lots of absolutely FLAWLESS crowd-control pro''s to deal with the crowds that their doorbuster sales generate, or else find some saner, safer way to get people to come in and shop in their stores.

This particular marketing method has gone way beyond being just "an unacceptably ugly scene" -- it can obviously become literally lethal.

Responsibility for a totally unnecessary death also lies with those idiots who participated in this insanity and trampled to death someone who just happened to be standing in their way.

[grammawhamma]

Wow...I think most of you people are crazy. (shaking my head in disbelief at some of these comments)

[centerfall94]

Wal-mart is guilty of plenty and needs to atone for those wrongs, but they aren''t responsible for this death. Nuff said.

[beybe-2009]

auscross says:
"I know for a fact that Wal-mart never expected such an occurance to happen."

A)Yes, they did. They were warned, they neglected to heed that warning.

B)It is the law that it is their responsibility to anticipate whatever may occur during an event of that magnitude

C)The law sides with the victim. You''re biased due to your association with WalMart.

Possibly before trying to interpret the law you should study the law. They have a duty to the public to provide a safe shopping environment and a duty to the employees to provide a safe work environment. Possibly you''ve heard of OSHA. Also, do the words "Crowd Control" ring any bells with you?

It doesn''t matter that they didn''t want it to happen or didn''t mean for it to happen, they didn''t ensure that it wouldn''t happen. This man was a BIG MAN and he was crushed by the hordes of shoppers, where were the emergency personnel? Where were his co workers? Where was management? A childs arm was broken, a lady who was pregnant was sent to the hospital, numerous other people were sent to hospital.

Is WalMart paying for the funeral? Are they helping this family monetarily? Are they setting up a fund for his family? What is WalMart doing for the victim???

[auscross1277]

I feel Walmart is NOT at fault. It is a result of our society today and the total disreguard for our fellow man. There are over 3000 Walmarts in the U.S. and only one walmart had such an incident. I live in the midwest and the customers at our local sotre were well behaved and respectful toward each other. Today in our society people I find our greedy, selfish and seek immediate gratification. For years there have been after Thanksgiving sales. Traditionally it is had been the start of the holiday season. Perhaps instead of blaming the store, one needs to look inside yourself and reexamine your priorities and not be so materialistic. The people of NY need to be ashamed of theirselves for acting like animals. That scene did not happen anywhere else in the US. Most people behaved responsiblty in the other 50 states. What happened NY?
Posted by djm342 at 10:16 PM : Dec 03, 2008
*** Walmart IS at fault! Atleast the NY walmart store that this happened at! Why wouldn''t walmart be responsible for what happens at their store? If someone trips and falls in any Walmart store... there is a special fund that has 10,000 bucks to cover medical expenses for that person.... if someone dies at walmart... that should make walmart responsible also... that is just like walmart though... Walmart cares about their customers.. Walmart doesn''t care about its employees though... very sad!

[auscross1277]

You have GOT to be kidding me. I know for a fact that Wal-mart never expected such an occurance to happen. I work at a different Wal-mart and they were talking about the situation. Never would they have guessed such a frenzy would happen to the point that a crowd kills a person. Temporary hires are trained as just that, temporary. The training the man received is what temps get this time of year. To sue Wal-mart, the mall, security firm, the reality firm and the city is, to say the least, rediculous. The people who should be sued are those who trampled all over the poor man. How do you NOT see that you''''re walking on someone? How do you NOT see you''''re running over someone on the floor? Are people that rabid that they can''''t see something like that? I sincerely hope that those who went to that Wal-mart on that day feel like ***. I hope this weighs on their conscience for the rest of their lives. Also, it was some of those individuals that complained when management then shut down the whole store after the incident. How dare they complain when management closes its doors after such a thing happens.
Posted by cherryfries at 09:27 PM : Dec 03, 2008
*** YOu work for the evil empire known as walmart! You are just biased because you are an employee... I use to work for walmart.. Walmart is evil! Walmart is what is killing the mom and pop smaller stores!

[auscross1277]

The store was in a ghetto. To think they would have any regard to human life with all the shootings in that area, please. Now the family wants to cash in? What was Wal-Mart suppose to do? Set up sniper teams to cover the doors? Maybe Wal-Mart should have down played the LCD TV sale so nobody would get hurt. Sue the idiots that shove him down and trampled him. Oh, thats right they don''''t have any money. Just like the hood, sue to get ahead in life.
Posted by excelsior9 at 11:31 PM : Dec 03, 2008
***Oh shut up! I don''t care if the store was in a ghetto or wherever it was! People still don''t need to act like animals... and if walmart is getting millions of dollars from those black friday sales.... they need to hire the appropriate amount of security... if someone is trampled to death in that manner... someone in Walmart needs to be held responsible for neglect... it is bad enough that walmart executives don''t have to pay much in taxes because of jorge w bush giving tax cuts to the extremely wealthy.. walmart needs to start paying!

[excelsior9]

The store was in a ghetto. To think they would have any regard to human life with all the shootings in that area, please. Now the family wants to cash in? What was Wal-Mart suppose to do? Set up sniper teams to cover the doors? Maybe Wal-Mart should have down played the LCD TV sale so nobody would get hurt. Sue the idiots that shove him down and trampled him. Oh, thats right they don''t have any money. Just like the hood, sue to get ahead in life.

[brian9194x]

Out of respect for this story, this is absolutely horrible that this could happen. People being so obsessed that they would literally trample another human being to death. Very Sad.

[brian9194x]

Online Poker

It really amazes me at the lengths people will go to in this country. I know there is corruption but on this level, a card game, is amusing. The NFL should be ashamed of themselves and people like you should be ashamed of yourself. Everything you and others claim is contradicted by the exemption of online fantasy fball, horse betting, and lottery. This isn''''t even about online poker, its about constitutional rights and corruption. Also everything you claim even though its false would be fixed by regulation. The point is that you just want online poker gone. That''''s fishy to anyone with a brain.

Point proven.

Oh and playing online poker in the good old USA, is LEGAL. You can read law for yourself.

[djm342]

I feel Walmart is NOT at fault. It is a result of our society today and the total disreguard for our fellow man. There are over 3000 Walmarts in the U.S. and only one walmart had such an incident. I live in the midwest and the customers at our local sotre were well behaved and respectful toward each other. Today in our society people I find our greedy, selfish and seek immediate gratification. For years there have been after Thanksgiving sales. Traditionally it is had been the start of the holiday season. Perhaps instead of blaming the store, one needs to look inside yourself and reexamine your priorities and not be so materialistic. The people of NY need to be ashamed of theirselves for acting like animals. That scene did not happen anywhere else in the US. Most people behaved responsiblty in the other 50 states. What happened NY?

[cherryfries]

You have GOT to be kidding me. I know for a fact that Wal-mart never expected such an occurance to happen. I work at a different Wal-mart and they were talking about the situation. Never would they have guessed such a frenzy would happen to the point that a crowd kills a person. Temporary hires are trained as just that, temporary. The training the man received is what temps get this time of year. To sue Wal-mart, the mall, security firm, the reality firm and the city is, to say the least, rediculous. The people who should be sued are those who trampled all over the poor man. How do you NOT see that you''re walking on someone? How do you NOT see you''re running over someone on the floor? Are people that rabid that they can''t see something like that? I sincerely hope that those who went to that Wal-mart on that day feel like ***. I hope this weighs on their conscience for the rest of their lives. Also, it was some of those individuals that complained when management then shut down the whole store after the incident. How dare they complain when management closes its doors after such a thing happens.

[gapeachykeen]

These sales should have a better means of security---both for the crowd control and for loss prevention purposes. All those executives that help plan and initialize the running of events such as these should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for CRIMINAL wrong doing ---this WAS MURDER--- to send A SINGULAR EMPLOYEE into this CROWD was CORRUPTION AT ITS WORST---THOSE EXECUTIVES SHOULD BE IN JAIL NEXT TO THE GOOD OL'' ENRON BOYS---DIDN''T THEY TOO END UP KILLING PEOPLE BY LETTING THE POWER OF LIFE-SUSTAINING MEDICAL EQUIPMENT JUST BE SEVERED BY THE FLIP OF A SWITCH!!! HOW BAD DO THESE THINGS REALLY NEED TO GET BEFORE WE AS CITIZENS SAY "ENOUGH"!!

[axomomma]

Wal*Mart is definitely liable, but what about the cattle that trampled the victim?
Why do cattle behave that way?
Moo-OOve! Moo-OOve!
Baa-ahaa! Moo-OOve!
There is no humanity when *cough* humans *cough* act like animals!

[mrvolleyba11]

VoidMaster
how in the world do the walmert employees whip the crowd into a frenzy?

the employees there with bull horns yelling, only 1 plasma tv abailable at $1! give me a break!

walmart is responsible but employees whipping the crowd into a frenzy, please!

adding just about every city/county agency is nothing but a mad dash for the cash, just like the customers on her brother!

[nghtcase]

Don''''t know where ThinTheHerd got his education, however, being an attorney myself...yes, Walmart is liable. ANYTIME anyone is injured on your property, you are liable.Posted by legaleagle68 at 07:28 PM : Dec 03, 2008
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Then why wasn''t McDonalds held liable for the people that were ran down on their parking lot??
It''s all about the money? Name 1 business that isn''t ALL about the money!!

[nghtcase]

Yeah, Walmart not only needs to be penalized for this incident, they need to be prohibited from doing it ever again.


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Posted by VoidMaster at 07:29 PM : Dec 03, 2008
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And then hold JC Penny, Sears and ANY other store that holds this type of sale liable. You make no sense. The only reason Walmart is so big is because they''re a LOW cost store. No one goes to JC Penny or Sears, or the other high dollar stores because they don''t want to. But the company as a whole did NOT tell these people to become animals, breaking down a door. Again, it wasn''t the ONLY Walmart that had the sale, so why was it the ONLY Walmart that someone died at? Because the PEOPLE had no reguard for anyone else. Plain and simple.