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- Posted by Speakinup21
And closer to topic, I want to see Bush held subject to the same laws as I am, and as he has broken them, and caused acts of genocide, treason, corruption, and the abrogation of the constitution, I want to see him held accountable in exactly the same way I would be if I did those things in say, Detroit.
Posted by brianbwb at 03:40 PM
Brian, I''m not sure anyone in Detroit would notice. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by WRATH1124 at 03:32 PM : Dec 02, 2008
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as long as morons like you are around DEMANDING EVERYTHING FROM TOILET PAPER TO COFFINS..we will be minding everybody''s business..
do you understand that? - Reply to this comment
- WRATH1124
Bah ha ha ha ha... ewe are a fool.. If you believe Bin Laden..
What country did the US invade before 9-11? Vietnam? Korea? What does that have to do with Muslim friutcakes? - Reply to this comment
- Posted by prometheus41 at 03:38 PM : Dec 02, 2008
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osama bin laden totally agrees with you on this one..wait wait!! i think i see a tear in his eye as he reads your post..
he said thank you and expect a gift from him pretty soon ..humm perhaps before 2013.. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by Speakinup21
And closer to topic, I want to see Bush held subject to the same laws as I am, and as he has broken them, and caused acts of genocide, treason, corruption, and the abrogation of the constitution, I want to see him held accountable in exactly the same way I would be if I did those things in say, Detroit. - Reply to this comment
- Dominique de Villepin''s address to the UN Security Council on Feb 14, 2003:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/French_address_on_Iraq_at_the_UN_Security_Council
It''s like reading some parallel universe variation of the Gettysburgh Address, but where the struggle for unity is world-wide and in adhering to the simple execution of the rule of law and due process, and one administration''s VAST RESERVE OF FUTURE TAXPAYER DEBT and young American''s to SACRIFICE at his disposal to do whatever he damned well pleases to destroy this.
Haunting. Eloquent. And *** DAMNING AS HELL in historic retrospect. For those who seem to be lost in perspective for a history that never existed. There was a reason why Republican''s forced the name change to "Freedom Fries" in the Congress Commissary''s menu, AND THIS WAS IT, in scathing glory. - Reply to this comment
- I''''m not being a jerk to you man, but you need to let something into your heart other than hate for what has happened to you. Because, we all aren''''t ever going to get the chance to replay that whole scenario.
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Posted by Speakinup21 at 03:26 PM : Dec 02, 2008
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Speakinup21, I grew up during the same time period as brianbwb and did my "tour" of Nam and saw an awful lot of ***** that blacks went through over there and back here at home. I thought I was treated bad when I returned but some of the *** I saw both in person and on the news made me realize that what I was going through was really nothing. If the tables were turned and it was me that was treated that way, I would still harbor angry feelings. I understand what you are trying to say, but if you have never had to walk in those shoes it is hard to understand. - Reply to this comment
- "brianbwb - if you were burning down buildings consider yourself lucky it was firehoses you felt the sting of."
Posted by Speakinup21
I was 12 at the time, and having been raised by good parents, I was a well known organist in the church circuit around the city, because I was probably the youngest.
The story is too long for this thread, but for you to assume that I was burning down buildings (which I wasn''t, in fact no one was, we were attacked during a peaceful protest march for the murdered Dr. King) without a shred of evidence is only evidence that while Mr. Obama''s election was a major battle victory, we still have a long war ahead of us.
What do I expect? The end to the disparities in job opportunities, of access to capital, of police brutality, of insurance rates, of redlining, redistricting, education facilities, discriminatory zoning, equal consideration in courts of law, access to health care, you know, the things all Americans want, without my ethnicity being a determining factor of whether I have equal consideration based on merit. - Reply to this comment
- "I''''m not sure I''''d call that warmongering. And, not we have a black President Elect. Times have changed. And, for the better! No argument there." Posted by Speakinup21
Well, I am about to turn 52, and I remember the sting of the water hoses, I grew up in Detroit.
I can assure you that while it may not have seemed like warmongering to you, for those of us on the receiving end of the effects, the water hoses, the bullets, the dogs, it was war. - Reply to this comment
- *** Cheny''s stance about Iraq during the first gulf war;
Wednesday, September 29, 2004
Cheney changed his view on Iraq
He said in ''92 Saddam not worth U.S. casualties
By CHARLES POPE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT
WASHINGTON -- In an assessment that differs sharply with his view today, *** Cheney more than a decade ago defended the decision to leave Saddam Hussein in power after the first Gulf War, telling a Seattle audience that capturing Saddam wouldn''t be worth additional U.S. casualties or the risk of getting "bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?" Cheney said then in response to a question.
"And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we''d achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.
"All of a sudden you''ve got a battle you''re fighting in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques," Cheney said.
"Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq." - Reply to this comment
- "A black man (albeit half black and half white) was elected President. So now, you have no excuse. It''''s not about "keeping the black man down" anymore like your brothers Al Sharpton and Jessi Jackson would have you believe.
BRIAN -- DOnt you remember Jesse Jackson wanting to cut Obama''''s "Nuts Off"???? Do you remember that?
Dont be a fool. And at best, you cant blame "Whitey" anymore, can you?" Posted by poopnuts1111
Blame Whitey? I simply said that because of the lies that were told about us in the past, lies that were used to justify continued oppression, which is the same as a war, that we have the unique perspective of recognizing warmongering agitprop when we hear it, and we certainly heard it trying to justify an illegal invasion of a sovereign country, on the order of a "White" man.
I personally would protest just the same, maybe even more if it had been a "Black" president who did such, because from our experience, we should know better.
In fact, I posted when Mr. Obama won the primary that I expected him to win the general election, but I also promised that if he "toms", or sells us out, not as a people, but as a nation, by continuing the racist agenda of the neocons, he will find me to be quite a vocal opponent.
It is you who is avoiding the subject. - Reply to this comment
- "A black man (albeit half black and half white) was elected President. So now, you have no excuse. It''''s not about "keeping the black man down" anymore like your brothers Al Sharpton and Jessi Jackson would have you believe.
BRIAN -- DOnt you remember Jesse Jackson wanting to cut Obama''''s "Nuts Off"???? Do you remember that?
Dont be a fool. And at best, you cant blame "Whitey" anymore, can you?" Posted by poopnuts1111
Blame Whitey? I simply said that because of the lies that were told about us in the past, lies that were used to justify continued oppression, which is the same as a war, that we have the unique perspective of recognizing warmongering agitprop when we hear it, and we certainly heard it trying to justify an illegal invasion of a sovereign country, on the order of a "White" man.
I personally would protest just the same, maybe even more if it had been a "Black" president who did such, because from our experience, we should know better.
It is you who is avoiding the subject. - Reply to this comment
- You don''''t like the effects, you shouldn''''t have supported the cause. You asked, I answered, now are you going to deny that it happened?
Posted by brianbwb at 02:43 PM : Dec 02, 2008
Just because you''re losing the arguement you don''t have to change the subject, unless you''re a whiner? - Reply to this comment
- Yeah - well **** and stop being a stinking coward - get your fat ***, your fat yellow belly and your so called bad knees over to the recruiters office
I''''m sick of hearing your BS whining about how you would win the war on "terror" single handedly but for your "bad knees" and "other priorities"
Posted by cause_a at 02:40 PM : Dec 02, 2008
Stop whining and snivelling everyone will think your a Lib''-OSE if you don''t shut up. See you don''t have to cuss to make a statement. - Reply to this comment
- "brianbwb - please do tell us about when the "warmongering lies" were directed at the blacks."
Posted by Speakinup21
Well maybe you are too young to remember when our heroes who struggled for the right to enjoy civil rights as full US citizens were called threats to US security by the likes of J.E. Hoover, and perhaps you never saw footage and photos of the police dogs and water hoses, but I understand youth does breed a lack of knowledge. - Reply to this comment
- I was never for the war, any "Black" American older than 25 had heard all of the warmongering lies before, when they were directed at us, we recognized the BS from the start.
Posted by brianbwb at 02:34 PM : Dec 02, 2008
Quit playing the cr^p race card and be an American, I''m sick of hearing all of the racial garbage from people like you and Al Sharpton. - Reply to this comment
- "brianbwb - lying about the truth doesn''''t make your lies the truth." Posted by Speakinup21
You are of course correct, but since you cannot show how my statements are lies, but I have shown how yours are, you condemn your own points. - Reply to this comment
- "It''''s over Brian. The war is Over. We won, you lost. Iraq is a better place, and will be even better when we leave, than your "WE DIDNT FIND WMD"S BECAUSE MY DUMMY DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS SAID THEY DIDNT" insight will be." Posted by poopnuts1111
You say it is over? We won? OK then, as of whatever date you say we "won" any American and Iraqi deaths that occur as a result of US military actions are now without doubt simple crimes of murder. - Reply to this comment
- 10. Kicking out the UN inspectors (Direct violation of cease-fire agreement Posted by poopnuts1111
Cheney did that, you are mistaken.
Posted by brianbwb at 02:31 PM : Dec 02, 2008
We were still at war with Iraq, the fighting had only stopped under a cease fire agreement, which Saddam kept breaking along with all of the UN Resolutions he ignored. - Reply to this comment
- "Was this before you were for the war or after you were for the war?" Posted by jowand
I was never for the war, any "Black" American older than 25 had heard all of the warmongering lies before, when they were directed at us, we recognized the BS from the start. - Reply to this comment
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