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Miami Judge Rules There Is "No Rational Basis" For Prohibiting Gays From Adopting Children
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- So, that second part looks like an assumption on your part.
Posted by Dilonsiel at 02:00 AM : Nov 26, 2008
Agreed.
I was thinking that a 4 year old, on a ship advertised as a cruise for G*ys and Lesbians, not to mention living in a same s*x household, would be learning that s*x with ones on s*x is a norm.
Seems to me that this would be called a learned behavior. - Reply to this comment
- My point is, a 4 year old has no idea what is going on and from what I read, it is being used to help push an agenda.
------Posted by AJMarine111
4 year olds often wear clothes with statements they don''t understand - say like sports team shirts or political logos or whatever else their guardians dress them in.
That statement is certainly an agenda. But someone else might think that a shirt which says "Jesus is Lord" is also an agenda. Would you argue with a child wearing that? - Reply to this comment
- Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?
----------Posted by AJMarine111
I think the shirt is just fine. But I''ve read your post several times, and I don''t see anywhere that the parent was teaching the child to lust. So, that second part looks like an assumption on your part. - Reply to this comment
- That is very true. Does''''nt make it right.
---------Posted by truthislife1
Well, people with the other religion probably would think they were right. As I''m sure you think you are right.
This is where having freedom of religion is a really good thing - for both sides. - Reply to this comment
- That is very true. Does''nt make it right. - truthislife1
Doesn''t make it right by what standard? Please don''t confuse what is right for you with what is right for all people. - Reply to this comment
- To teach a child HATE, in any form, is what is wrong.
Posted by Caeric at 01:49 AM : Nov 26, 2008
Who said anything about teaching hate?
My point is, a 4 year old has no idea what is going on and from what I read, it is being used to help push an agenda. - Reply to this comment
- -- AJMarine111 at 01:35 AM
...and what business is it of yours in the first place?
Posted by bedwetter777 at 01:47 AM : Nov 26, 2008
Is this a forum for discussion or just your points of view? - Reply to this comment
- Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x? - AJMarine111
What is fair, good and right is for all children to be taught that it is LOVE that matters, regardless of the genders involved. To teach a child HATE, in any form, is what is wrong. - Reply to this comment
- Who are you to judge whether what is in someones'''' heart is lust or love?
Posted by bedwetter777 at 01:45 AM : Nov 26, 2008
I''m not judging anyone, I asked a question.
Besides, lust and love can go hand in hand. - Reply to this comment
- -- AJMarine111 at 01:35 AM
...and what business is it of yours in the first place? - Reply to this comment
- Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?--- AJMarine111 at 01:35 AM
Who are you to judge whether what is in someones'' heart is lust or love? - Reply to this comment
- A ceremony between 2 men or 2 women might very well be recognized by a different religion than yours, not just a culture.
Posted by Dilonsiel
That is very true. Does''nt make it right. - Reply to this comment
Personally, I think it would be fair for parents to be able to decide that their children not be placed with homosexuals (although I would advise against this prejudice), but it is not fair for parents to decide that other''''s children not be placed with homosexuals.
Posted by bedwetter777 at 01:07 AM : Nov 26, 2008
Homosexuals have faced icy receptions in the Caribbean before. A number of islands have laws banning homosexual *** and many countries remain socially conservative.
O''Donnell''s partner, Kelli O''Donnell, got off and greeted members of the Bahamas'' Rainbow Alliance, a gay and lesbian group. She helped found R Family Vacations, which promoted the seven-day cruise that began in New York City on Sunday and also made stops in Florida.
Passengers Stacey and Jessie Paris, of New Jersey, said they didn''t feel welcome on their first trip to the Bahamas.
"It''s very, very sad," Stacey Paris said.
She came with her biological daughter, 15-month-old Torin, and adopted son, Zion, four.
When reporters asked how they felt about the protest, Stacey turned to Zion, who was wearing a T-shirt that read Let My Parents Marry, and asked: "What do we call people like that?"
He replied: "Narrow-minded," and hugged Paris.
Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?- Reply to this comment
- Personally, I think it would be fair for parents to be able to decide that their children not be placed with homosexuals (although I would advise against this prejudice), but it is not fair for parents to decide that other''''s children not be placed with homosexuals.
---------Posted by bedwetter777
I''m not familiar with the rules. Wouldn''t children placed into foster care and eligible for adoption - well, wouldn''t their parents have given up their rights by then (as in perhaps taken away from them by the state)? If so, why would they get to choose?
Now, situations where parents are giving up their children for adoption directly, it would seem they would already have a choice. - Reply to this comment
- That is a good point and I can handle that, thank you. In God''''s eyes marriage is between and man and woman and is then recognized by God as such. A ceremony between two men or two women might be recognized by a culture, but is not recognized in definition by God. Call it a civil union, partnership, whatever. Thank you.
------------Posted by truthislife1
A ceremony between 2 men or 2 women might very well be recognized by a different religion than yours, not just a culture. - Reply to this comment
- ---summarex at 12:33 AM
Your on to us now. It''s all about annoying heterosexuals and not at all about working to get human beings to treat eachouther as human beings (ie. civil rights) As soon as gay marriage passes, all children will be tought how to "walk gay" by the nearest neighborhood homosexual and all heterosexual adults will be forced to have a homosexual relationship at least once a day and say the word "fabulous" in conversation with a lisp at least 10 times a day. :-)
Personally, I think it would be fair for parents to be able to decide that their children not be placed with homosexuals (although I would advise against this prejudice), but it is not fair for parents to decide that other''s children not be placed with homosexuals. - Reply to this comment
- "I will not respond to any more of your posts, we will get no where. "
And you just proved your lie. But it is your choice my friend, to remain in your darkness or journey to a place of light and hope. - Reply to this comment
- SkiLuuver, you incorrectly quote me as posting something that was actually posted by someone else. You''ll note my post that said the symbols I used to differentiate between dude1961''s comments and mine didn''t transfer. I''m actually on the side of rational thought.
truthislife1 - I do not believe in your religion. It holds no sway over me, therefore your definition of marriage based on your religion holds no sway over me. I have my own spiritual beliefs, and I hold them as strongly as you hold yours. In my spiritual belief, homosexuals are as much the children of the Creator as are heterosexuals. I will not tell you that you have to follow my beliefs; do not tell me that I have to follow yours, either here or through the law.
That said, this should be a question of law in the United States, where there is a separation of church and state. In such a nation, specific religious morality should never become law. - Reply to this comment
- Marriage is a legal contract that has NOTHING to do with religion. Do you think that an atheist man and an atheist woman who are married by a judge without a minister are "married?" According to the law, they are. Religion and God are included in religious ceremonies that often accompany marriage, but they are add ons.
Posted by SkiLuuver
That is a good point and I can handle that, thank you. In God''s eyes marriage is between and man and woman and is then recognized by God as such. A ceremony between two men or two women might be recognized by a culture, but is not recognized in definition by God. Call it a civil union, partnership, whatever. Thank you. - Reply to this comment
- Do NOT hide your cowardice behind some god. No religion condones judging others, and your bigotry is WRONG and if you are religious your prejudice is SIN--make no mistake.
Posted by andor3
Andor3, we meet again. I will not respond to any more of your posts, we will get no where. - Reply to this comment
