Comments on: Fla. Gay Adoption Ban Dealt Legal Blow

Miami Judge Rules There Is "No Rational Basis" For Prohibiting Gays From Adopting Children

[kamsack50]

Dilonsiel
You''re right. I''m thinking ahead as I write. Should reread my posts before sending. Also, "political'' for political correctness.
Thanks

[dilonsiel]

Homosexuals often try to make "converts".
In this sense, allowing them to adapt would be an opportunity for them to do just that. All under the authority of the courts who, out of fear of the Polical correctness police, would refuse no homosexuals wishing to adapt.

---------Posted by kamsack50

I was trying to figure out what you were saying and then I realized you meant adopt, not adapt.

[kamsack50]

Homosexuals often try to make "converts".
In this sense, allowing them to adapt would be an opportunity for them to do just that. All under the authority of the courts who, out of fear of the Polical correctness police, would refuse no homosexuals wishing to adapt.

[bedwetter777]

Exactly, who can say that a hetero couple can do these things better than a gay couple?

Posted by bedwetter777

You are lying because you are telling everyone that you never needed your mom. That''''s a big lie and you know it. Every child needs a mothers love and not a man on the planet can do that. Duh!---truthislife1 at 03:10 AM

No, I am not telling everyone that I never needed my mom. To begin with, I didn''t specify what gender the gay couple was. If they were both female, then I could be with my mother. If you are going to make the claim that fathers can''t raise children as well as mothers, you''ll have to maybe provide a link or a line of reasoning behind that rather than just a declarative statment. Olympian, Apolo Ohno was raised by his father since the age of one.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/ESPNSports/Story?id=2090015&page=1

[dilonsiel]

why is there such fear of the truth in this? Plenty of kids have been raised in single-gender households, and many by gay couples. Why not just see how they are doing? Is it because they are probably doing just fine and all the homophobic doom and gloom would be proven to be smoke, mirrors and lies maybe?

-------Posted by andor3

It has to do with people''s belief systems. Once something is a significant part of a belief system, it becomes complicated to sort out the underlying reasons for thoughts, emotions, and actions.

(Not impossible, but complicated.)

[bedwetter777]

I think you are reading to much into it.

To me, lust, love, desire, attaction, and wanting all play a roll in a relationship,........but people do have just lust for some things or other people. I was not trying to imply that there was no love in this relationship.---AJMarine111 at 03:08 AM

Maybe you didn''t mean to be disrespectful by referring to Zion''s parents as lusting after eachother, but the context of your question --asking if I think it''s O.K. for a 4yr old to be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?-- comes off real bad. Walk up to any couple on the street with small children and ask them if its O.K. to teach their young children that it is OK for the parents to lust after eachother. You''ll probably get a pop in the face for that.

[andor3]

why is there such fear of the truth in this? Plenty of kids have been raised in single-gender households, and many by gay couples. Why not just see how they are doing? Is it because they are probably doing just fine and all the homophobic doom and gloom would be proven to be smoke, mirrors and lies maybe?

[dilonsiel]

You are lying because you are telling everyone that you never needed your mom. That''''s a big lie and you know it. Every child needs a mothers love and not a man on the planet can do that. Duh!

---------Posted by truthislife1

Lying doesn''t seem to apply to the quote to which you were responding. It was more of an opinion or question.

I disagree that a man cannot give nurturing love (i.e., mother''s love) to a child.

But take a more traditional situation (altho uncommon). If a woman died in childbirth, are you saying that the father would not be able to raise the child properly because the mother''s love is no longer there?

[ajmarine111]

---------Posted by AJMarine111

That''''s a perfectly valid opinion (at least in my opinion).


Posted by Dilonsiel at 02:27 AM : Nov 26, 2008




Thank you.

[truthislife1]

Exactly, who can say that a hetero couple can do these things be ther than a gay couple?

Posted by bedwetter777

You are lying because you are telling everyone that you never needed your mom. That''s a big lie and you know it. Every child needs a mothers love and not a man on the planet can do that. Duh!

[ajmarine111]

You didn''''t mention love in the question below- only lust. Therfore, you imply that that you judge the gay couples'''' (Zion''''s adoptive parents) relationship is only lust.
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Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?---AJMarine111 at 01:35 AM :


Posted by bedwetter777 at 02:33 AM : Nov 26, 2008



I think you are reading to much into it.


To me, lust, love, desire, attaction, and wanting all play a roll in a relationship,........but people do have just lust for some things or other people. I was not trying to imply that there was no love in this relationship.

[bedwetter777]

Now, learning about a loving family relationship, respect, honor, give and take, how to work and play together, etc. It is my sincerest hope that it becomes the norm in families of any type. ---Dilonsiel at 02:31 AM

Exactly, who can say that a hetero couple can do these things be ther than a gay couple?

[bedwetter777]

I''''m not judging anyone, I asked a question.
Besides, lust and love can go hand in hand.---Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:48 AM
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You didn''t mention love in the question below- only lust. Therfore, you imply that that you judge the gay couples'' (Zion''s adoptive parents) relationship is only lust.
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Do you think it is fair, good, or right for a 4 year old to be dressed with a shirt that says "Let my Parents Marry" and be taught that it is OK to lust after ones own s*x?---AJMarine111 at 01:35 AM :

[dilonsiel]

I was thinking that a 4 year old, on a ship advertised as a cruise for G*ys and Lesbians, not to mention living in a same s*x household, would be learning that s*x with ones on s*x is a norm.


Seems to me that this would be called a learned behavior.

---------Posted by AJMarine111

Well, personally, I would hope that a 4 year old child would not be learning about adult *** from any parent - hetero or not.

Now, learning about a loving family relationship, respect, honor, give and take, how to work and play together, etc. It is my sincerest hope that it becomes the norm in families of any type.

[dilonsiel]

What I am trying to say is,.....I don''''t care what consenting adults do. They are old enough to make their own decisions. I just have a problem with throwing children into the mix.

---------Posted by AJMarine111

That''s a perfectly valid opinion (at least in my opinion).

[caeric]

What I am trying to say is,.....I don''''t care what consenting adults do. They are old enough to make their own decisions. I just have a problem with throwing children into the mix. - AJMarine111

Children will always be ''in the mix'' for the simple fact that it is impossible to exist in a vacuum. Anything that affects adults will affect the children in their lives. It is impossible to separate. Therefore, as I said before, what is important is that we teach children to love... without condition, without boundaries, without prejudice. Once we have that down everything else will fall into place.

[ajmarine111]

Posted by Caeric at 02:16 AM : Nov 26, 2008


What I am trying to say is,.....I don''t care what consenting adults do. They are old enough to make their own decisions. I just have a problem with throwing children into the mix.

[earache4]

Fla. Gaye Adoption Ban Dealt Legal Blow

So tell me CBS, how do I go about adopting a gaye baby in Florida?

[caeric]

I was thinking that a 4 year old, on a ship advertised as a cruise for G*ys and Lesbians, not to mention living in a same s*x household, would be learning that s*x with ones on s*x is a norm. Seems to me that this would be called a learned behavior. - AJMarine111

How about a 4 year old on a hetero cruise, living in a hetero household, learning that s*x with the other gender is a norm, yet still grows up to be gay. Was that learned behavior?

What about the same scenario you describe above, yet the child grows up to be hetero. Was that, too, learned behavior?

[ajmarine111]

That statement is certainly an agenda. But someone else might think that a shirt which says "Jesus is Lord" is also an agenda. Would you argue with a child wearing that?

Posted by Dilonsiel at 02:05 AM : Nov 26, 2008



I would have an arguement with any adult using any child to promote whatever agenda they want to dress them in.

Children are innocence.