Comments on: Ariz. Boy Charged With Murder Of Father

8-Year-Old Gave Conflicting Stories, But Ultimately Confessed In Video, Police Say

[cricketbeers]

And... WHY did the police department release such a video to the media? Poison the jury pool!

I hope it comes back and slaps them in the face.

[tmittelstaed]

"...Parents think their little darlings "would never do something like that..." -neenga

That is a very unfair observation, Neenga. The truth is that MANY parents would believe a teacher over their little darling. The fact is that the kids of -these- parents aren''t the problem. The kids of parents who believe that their little darling could do no wrong are the problem.
My wife observed a similar situation when subbing in High School many years ago - parents didn''t want to believe their kid was at fault. She wasn''t asked to leave, though. About 5 years after that we were watching the evening news one day and a report came on of a firefighter who had been arrested for arson. It was the same kid.

[cricketbeers]

ermatenaj said "It''''''''s very difficult to believe an 8 year old child would do such a thing".

Not that hard to believe if you know that his father taught him to shoot and how to "kill" praire dogs---------------
Uh... so What?! Just because a kid is taught how to use a gun correctly and responsibly, doesn''t mean he''s a killer. My father taught my 8 year old son what a bullet does to a ground hog. He also taught my son how to aim, shoot, clean and care for his guns. My son is now 15 and has the utmost respect for his guns and for the people around him during hunting season.

And...
I''m still not convinced the boy had anything to do with this at all. How many times were they shot? Does an 8 year old have pinpoint accuracy? I think the police are fishing down the wrong stream.

[usmc1968]

This case has sounded suspicious from day one, father marries his girlfriend, ex-wife visits, dad and renter turn up dead! Now we see the child did not immediately confess as first alleged, but was interrogated, likely under coercive conditions, no attorney, no guardian present, a adult confession would be thrown out for less, and to all those so called human beings whom call for this childs blood, ounce of flesh, I feel more sorry for you than I do anything, on judgment day your ''awe and shock" will be a real good one, when Jesus knows you not, for ignoring the poor, hungry, naked those sick and in "prison", all your crying bleeding heart liberal, etc, will do you naught on that day, as a blind biblical goat, your eye opening day will be one to remember for all eternity as you find yourself in that eternal lake of fire debating with Adolf Hitler and his ilk, on how the end justified the means!

[p1tey1]

I am still not convinced this child had anything to do with this crime. The police need to work harder. Something is just not right about this.

[nailinpalin]

Posted by libsh8theUSA at 02:38 PM : Nov 18, 2008

Yeah, great idea. Hang the 8 year old. You''re an idiot.

[magoo2u1]

Some people completely miss the point. Executing the sociopaths lets them off easy. The moment the switch is flicked their lights go out. Push the plunger and they go to sleep. Even if you shock them 6 times or it takes them 5 hours to suffocate on drugs, they are unconscious. Kept alive for 30 years looking out the window at the world passing them by, watching lesser scumbags check in and check out of the scumbag hotel, that hurts. Keep ''em alive. Let ''em get aids or buttereal warts. Who cares. Make them hang around for a long time wishing they had been better.

[sdcamom]

To Canyoutell me: HUH? you quit teaching because someone''''s kid was violent? That makes no sense. A *good* teacher would have reported that child to their parents AND the authorities since you were aware of crimes being committed (harm against another as well as against animals are crimes) and as a teacher, you had a DUTY to do that. The kid would have been taken out of the situation and you would have done your part in getting that child the help he needs. Instead, you quit and he''''s probably a bigger psychopath now. Congrats to you.

I do know my obligations, both legal and moral. I DID report him to the authorities. In the case of my student, no one wanted to believe an 8 year old was capable of such behavior. I quit, because when I tried to get the child help, I was told I had stepped out of line. I could quit, or get fired. This was in private school....the child''s parents already knew his behavior would not be tolerated in public school. Instead of getting their child help, they targeted the teacher....You are right about one thing though...because of my failure in getting him help, he is probably a bigger pschyopath now....congrats to me.

[rematenaj]

I don''t think any of us know enough about the details of this case to have an informed opinion. I do think it''s sad that many here have already convicted this child and sentenced him to death. It''s very difficult to believe an 8 year old child would do such a thing; at least not knowingly.

[neenga]

"Where did they get a "jail-issued orange jumpsuit" to fit an 8-year-old?"

In the dumpster. Halloween was just a couple of weeks ago.

[neenga]

CANYOUTELLME, you don''t know much about the school system, do you? "Authorities," whoever they may be, do NOTHING when a teacher reports behavior like this. Report his behavior to his parents? Just put the fox in the hen house, would you? Parents think their little darlings "would never do something like that."

[canyoutellme-2009]

I quit teaching because I had a student, who was only 8, and enjoyed hurting people and small animals. I was told repeatedly that he was "just a boy"--not to worry. This child was skilled at saying what people wanted to hear, that he was sorry and didn''''t mean to do it. Children this age CAN be dangerous. It is not common, but it CAN happen. Don''''t blame the police for being rough or callous---they don''''t want to believe it either.


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Posted by sdcamom at 12:31 PM : Nov 18, 2008
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HUH? you quit teaching because someone''s kid was violent? That makes no sense. A *good* teacher would have reported that child to their parents AND the authorities since you were aware of crimes being committed (harm against another as well as against animals are crimes) and as a teacher, you had a DUTY to do that. The kid would have been taken out of the situation and you would have done your part in getting that child the help he needs. Instead, you quit and he''s probably a bigger psychopath now. Congrats to you.

As for this child... something is fishy here... sounds like the poliec picked up the kid and got his so dam scared that he''ll say anything now. This smacks of police laziness on hunting down the real killers. It doesn''t make sense to me that an 8 year old would gun down 2 people. None whatsoever.

[sdcamom]

I quit teaching because I had a student, who was only 8, and enjoyed hurting people and small animals. I was told repeatedly that he was "just a boy"--not to worry. This child was skilled at saying what people wanted to hear, that he was sorry and didn''t mean to do it. Children this age CAN be dangerous. It is not common, but it CAN happen. Don''t blame the police for being rough or callous---they don''t want to believe it either.

[evian_ycnan]

This video is an attempt by the police department to sway public opinion against an 8-year who was questioned without the benefit of an attorney, a parent, or a guardian ad litem...

These cops violated procedure and they know it...

[drivelphobe]

RRozsa....

The shackles are necessary for compliance with guidelines that must be uniformly applied to all. Otherwise, there could be ACLU charges for "special" or "biased" treatment.

[rrozsa-2009]

Where did they get a "jail-issued orange jumpsuit" to fit an 8-year-old? That''s not something I would expect most police departments to have on hand! Do they even make them that small? And why the shackles? Aren''t hand cuffs enough to keep an unarmed 8-year-old under control?

[guatom]

quote from local newspaper,WMICentral, "Dressed in a jail-issued orange jumpsuit, shackle chains dragging on the floor, the youngster was led into the courtroom by detention officials for the 3 p.m. Friday hearing where a judge was to decide if the 8-year-old should remain in custody or be released to family members. Sitting next to his attorney at the table reserved for defendants, in a chair normally occupied by an adult, the youngster''s feet didn''t touch the floor."
Now there is an image of police mentality, procedure followed reqardless of situation, law and order society based on written words, not ingrained principles of human rights and dignity. You do not make one tragedy better by committing another tradegy.

[dangyankee69]

If you want more information the local newspaper has run a number of stories on the incident. Check www.wmicentral.com.

[sassalin]

DaVicar1,

That''s right...murder is not wrong as long as it fits your religious or moral beliefs.

You''re an idiot.

[sassalin]

dragonmouse,

Yes, we are missing some information. Blood spatter and GSR test take time. It does not happen overnight. Plus, do we really need to know information in an ongoing investigation. The answer is no. None of my business or yours until the boy, police and the family knows what happened that day.

getoffmine1,

It is normally referred to as lying. This kid has the makings of a psychopath.