Comments on: Bush's "Fire Sale" For Oil, Gas Industries

Administration Will Lease 50,000 Acres Near National Parks For Drilling

[RichardOwlMirror]

Where does electricity come from?
Posted by deathofUSA
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In short form, it is derived through a process known as Piezoelectricity

Once my system is established, the result would be virtually free and continuous supply of electricity.

[deathofusa]

Research has shown that using the present materials that are being used to create biodiesel, the process actually has a negative return.
Posted by renrivers at 11:43 AM : Nov 17, 2008


Thank you. And the question I have been asking him about where would the electricity come from for his electric car has gone unanswered. We do not have enough power plants to take on more usage. No one will allow more power plants be built so what''s the answer? Why would I want an electric car that I can''t charge? Or that is going to cost me an arm and a leg to charge?

[missingamerica]

NOT IF OBAMA HAS HIS WAY AND BANKRUPTS COAL! But... YES WE CAN! Lol. Idiots.

Posted by deathofUSA at 11:48 AM : Nov 17, 2008

Be glad that I am not President. I would be pushing for the nationalization of all energy companies - whether coal, oil, natural gas, or electrical generation.

There has never been a more apt target of the phrase "vital to our nation''s strategic and economic interests" than energy - and allowing greed to manipulate our nation''s destiny is a fool''s game.

And has been, for these past 35 years.

[perk235]

But the problem with your theory is that there are a lot of states that do not want wind farms.
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Wind can be harvested by individuals as well, it doesn''t have to all be from windfarms. Solar can also be from large solar stations, as well as using our rooftops to harvest solar energy. The Japanese have small solar spheres integrated in to shingles available for houses there.

[perk235]

But the problem with your theory is that there are a lot of states that do not want wind farms. Not on their land. How safe do you really think that Prius is if you get into an accident? Do you really think you could survive?
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Since weight is the highest determining factor in a car crash, you''d be surprised to find out that the Prius is a heavy car.

It weighs 2890 pounds, which is the average weight for a car in it''s class. My old Ford Ranger was 3028 pounds, for comparison.

My prius has all-around air bags and vehicle stability control, which does great in the snow.

[deathofusa]

American Clean Coal Fuels is building a plant in Oakland, Ill., to produce 30,000 barrels of fuel a day after it starts up in 2012 or 2013. The plant is expected to cost about $3.6 billion, said president Stephen Johnson, and will create an estimated 800 jobs. Rentech has plans for 28,000-barrel-a-day plant in Mississippi that will make fuel from petroleum coke, a derivative of the oil-refining industry.

Among obstacles facing the industry are the high construction costs ($1 billion to $8 billion to build a plant), tighter credit, a slowing economy and opposition among Democrats in both houses of Congress. Legislation that could lead to government contracts and attract investors to the still-fragile industry is stalled in the House, complained Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., a leading coal-to-liquid advocate in Congress.

"Southern Illinois is perfectly situated for someone to consider a coal-to-liquid refinery," he said. "We have the coal, we have the work force. We''re ready. All we need is a signal from the federal government."


NOT IF OBAMA HAS HIS WAY AND BANKRUPTS COAL! But... YES WE CAN! Lol. Idiots.

[deathofusa]

and the cost of recovery is virtually free. The price paid for recharging would be minimal and paid for by TIME allotments. A full charge good for the next 200 miles would be under $5.00
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Posted by owlmirror at 11:36 AM : Nov 17, 2008


And do you understand the theory that everytime you recharge your battery you will lose part of the energy? You NEVER recover 100% Again, who will make this electricity? Where does electricity come from?

[deathofusa]

Suffice to say, my innovation provides for charging stations all along the nations highways, in small towns, etc... and the cost of recovery is virtually free. The price paid for recharging would be minimal and paid for by TIME allotments. A full charge good for the next 200 miles would be under $5.00
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Posted by owlmirror at 11:36 AM : Nov 17, 2008


My question is though, where does that electricity come from?

[habu99-2009]

Elsewhere on the CBS website today is an article where Republicans are trying to figure out what went so horribly wrong this election cycle. Here is the answer. George w. Bush has almost single handedly ruined the Republican brand for some time to come. He has no morals, no values other than money, no respect for anything or anyone other than himself and his rich friends. Why should the boy kind/unitary executive worry about spoiling our natural beauty when there''s money to be made?

Between w''s lying, cheating, stealing, and killing and the GOP''s misguided efforts to appeal to the wingnut fringe (at the expense of trying to reach moderate voters), it''s no wonder they got their clocks cleaned. As ye reap, so shall ye sow.

[Renegade.Rivers]

Then of course, if the United States Government and it''''''''s vast Military were to convert all their diesel engines to running agriculturally-derives Biodiesel fuel that would eliminate the largest chunk of Imported Oil purchases from overseas.

Posted by owlmirror
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Research has shown that using the present materials that are being used to create biodiesel, the process actually has a negative return.

There is possibly one plant that could give us the type of returns that are needed, and that is by using hemp. It was the big oil companies and Dupont aided by Franklin D. Roosevelt, and his administration that made it illegal to grow in 1937.

Hemp is the most diversified plant on the planet and has been used for centuries for its fuel, and fiber. All Americans should encourage our leaders to stop this ban on growing hemp, so that we can once again use it.

[deathofusa]

The U.S. military and commercial airlines are looking at liquefied coal and other alternative-fuel options to escape rising energy costs. The Crow Tribe recently signed a deal with an Australian company to build a $7 billion coal-to-liquid plant in Montana.

Nearly a dozen companies are pursuing plans for starting coal-to-liquid complexes early in the next decade to tap into a potential high-growth market fed by consumers seeking relief from gasoline prices, says Corey Henry, a spokesman for the National Mining Association, a leading member of the Coal-to-Liquids Coalition.

But whether the industry grows beyond its infancy depends largely on its ability to convince skeptics %u2014 including environmentalists and Democratic congressional leaders %u2014 that liquefied coal can be produced cleanly without contributing to global warming.

Industry supporters say it can, promoting technology that strips out carbon dioxide and other impurities. But the Natural Resources Defense Council calls liquefied coal "the height of folly," saying it would deepen the country''s dependency on fossil fuels.

"This is the filthiest, most impractical and expensive way you could ever dream up to make fuel," said Julia Bovey, the environmental group''s Washington spokeswoman.

See, you can''t win with you people.

[perk235]

You must not be listening to your environmentalist friends very closely. They are now complaining that we are using corn for fuel and people all around the world are starving. That the manure used to fertilize the crops are letting off poisons. So. Let''''s try this again. What is your REALISTIC suggestion for energy?
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Don''t confuse biodiesel with ethanol. Corn supplies sugars to feed yeast to make ethanol. Soybeans, algae and other fat producing organisms product fatty acids, which are converted to biodiesel.

Algae produces many more fatty acids than soybeans per acre and salt-loving algae are being tested now so that oceanic salt water, or from the salt lakes can be used. This can take advantage of non-farmable acres of land.

[deathofusa]

A mixture of reducing consumption (my Prius gets 50 mpg when driving 75% hwy and 25% in town), solar rooftops, personal windmills, combined with existing natural gas and oil wells.

Why do republicans always discount alternative energy, when America''''s greatest asset is the entrepeneural spirit? Does it threaten the status quo?

Obviously a strong dollar reduces oil prices, as we can see right now. A strong dollar depends on a balanced budget, which Clinton closed down the government in a showdown with Newt Gingrich to ensure.
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Posted by perk235 at 11:35 AM : Nov 17, 2008


But the problem with your theory is that there are a lot of states that do not want wind farms. Not on their land. How safe do you really think that Prius is if you get into an accident? Do you really think you could survive?

[RichardOwlMirror]

You forgot to answer the question about where would you get the electricity to charge up your electric car?
Posted by deathofUSA
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I didn''t forget anything, why would I give away my invention on a public website so it could be stolen ?

Suffice to say, my innovation provides for charging stations all along the nations highways, in small towns, etc... and the cost of recovery is virtually free. The price paid for recharging would be minimal and paid for by TIME allotments. A full charge good for the next 200 miles would be under $5.00

[perk235]

And your suggestions for energy would be what?
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A mixture of reducing consumption (my Prius gets 50 mpg when driving 75% hwy and 25% in town), solar rooftops, personal windmills, combined with existing natural gas and oil wells.

Why do republicans always discount alternative energy, when America''s greatest asset is the entrepeneural spirit? Does it threaten the status quo?

Obviously a strong dollar reduces oil prices, as we can see right now. A strong dollar depends on a balanced budget, which Clinton closed down the government in a showdown with Newt Gingrich to ensure.

[hotpaulie]

Instead of a torch, the statue of liberty should be holding a "for sale" sign. Atleast that is what it seems the last 8 years have been.

[deathofusa]

All available with one courageous use of the Executive Pen.

Want Change ??? Reauthorize agriculture production of Industrial Hemp nationwide and let the free market bring us out of this recession.
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Posted by owlmirror at 11:25 AM : Nov 17, 2008


You forgot to answer the question about where would you get the electricity to charge up your electric car?

[tiredofleft]

I have to say I voted for Bush and I am STILL glad Al Gore didnt get it. But I have to say the only exceptional thing Bush has done that I am thankful for is keeping us safe from another terrorist attack. This national park land/oil deal is disturbing. Maybe his motive is to make sure oil companys have plenty of land to drill on (esp. in a crisis) before Obama gets in. Obama will certainly not be drilling-friendly. Perhaps a better idea would be to put these lands into some kind of "Crisis only" drilling territories. The gov sure as S%*t shouldnt be auctioning land to big oil. Where is this money going to go? I am sure this will end up in the Billion$. Again, thanks for keeping our famillies safe but thats about it. HUCKABEE 2012!!

[deathofusa]

Posted by deathofUSA at 10:46 AM : Nov 17, 2008

There is enough natural gas in the US to get us through until other sources are developed. We have not been using it because both Democrats and republicans are hooked into the OIL COMPANIES for MONEY.
Additionally in case you didn''''t know it THE BUSH FAMILY IS IN THE OIL BUSINESS.
We have known that oil availability would be a problem for 40 years and in all that time nothing was done. Carter set up the mechanism to explore other sources, but Reagan stopped those plans. Another republican idol who fvcked us.

Check this site for more information.
http://www.pickensplan.com
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Posted by johndevinejr at 11:24 AM : Nov 17, 2008


And who has stopped domestic drilling? The dems. Why not drill here. Screw bush and the saudis. But noooo poor caribou. All carter did was suggest we buy sweaters. Carter was a total moron.

[RichardOwlMirror]

You must not be listening to your environmentalist friends very closely. They are now complaining that we are using corn for fuel and people all around the world are starving. That the manure used to fertilize the crops are letting off poisons. So. Let''''s try this again. What is your REALISTIC suggestion for energy?
Posted by deathofUSA
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Who said anything about CORN ?
Corn Ethonal was a concoction of the Oil Industry to stymie alternative energy sources. It is the worst, most wasteful method known to man.

Re-designation of Industrial Hemp as a viable Industrial commodity for our farmers to produce is the wat forward. Other than the oversight, I believe people with money would invest in utilizing this commodity and a new economy would spring up overnight.

No subsidy is needed as the farmers would sell every fiber they can grow.
One product which could be developed is bio-degradable plastics. Another would be if the Federal and State Governments all dedicated themselves to using Biodiesel in their fleet of vehicles. If the Military also became a customer of bio-fuel the industry could become self-sustaining.
Fiber board for the construction industry, fiber-filler for the automobile industry as well as the bio-degradable plastics.

All available with one courageous use of the Executive Pen.

Want Change ??? Reauthorize agriculture production of Industrial Hemp nationwide and let the free market bring us out of this recession.