Comments on: 8-Year-Old Accused Of Dad's Slay In Court

Police Say Ariz. Boy Confessed To Shooting Deaths Of Father And His Co-Worker

[nolalou]

According to news reports on TV this morning, this is being handled in Juvenile Court, he will not be tried as a adult. If found guilty, he would be placed in some type of group home, since even juvenile detention centers are not equipped to deal with someone as young as 8 years old.

[usmc1968]

Can see the "Peta nut cases" are out in force today, animal murderers, guess when they go buy their processed chickens, beef, they feel superior not having killed the animals themselves. I find it not surprising the nut cases come out of the wood work, have mercy for animals but cry for the blood, flesh of a 8 year old and find glee in the two deceased deaths! Makes one realize why bible says the blind biblical goats will not be known to Jesus on judgment day, they really are blind!

[rixmix98]

I find the 2nd amendment nut cases or anti-gun nut cases, trying to use this tragedy for thier political views dispicable, low life, and truly shows how sick society is, here we have a 8 year old boy, life ruined no matter what the circumstances, and these two adversary groups can only see a political issue! Neither group seems to me even capable of seeing the human tragedy here! No wonder in our last election, the far right lost, and the far left was marginalized, and a centrist won election! I believe in 2nd amendment but also believe some common sense laws need to be had, one does not need a machine gun to hunt, nor does one need to ban guns simply because someone committs a crime! Since criminals rarely buy their guns legally anyway!

Posted by usmc1968 at 09:17 AM : Nov 10, 2008



One of the most logical post I''ve ever read.

[slim1h2o]

In juvenile court, the truth is more likely to come out. There''''s no percentage in trashing the victim when you are before the judge.

Posted by Evian_Ycnan at 09:14 AM : Nov 10, 2008

Sadly you are right. In todays Justice system, all parties'' sling mud at each other and hopes the jury favors their side, or who deems themselves more credible, instead of getting at the truth. That''s why our Justice system has broken down.

No matter what happened in this situation, the kid should be tried in Juvenile court. He''s just too young for Adult court in my estimation.

[usmc1968]

One thing for sure this case will be debated, questioned, investigated, and only when all the real facts are out will any of us know the truth, we all are going on rumors, news reports that might or might not be accurate, just to early to tell, all I can do is pray for this young child, who is the real issue here, the deceased are in gods domain now, the living in ours!

[usmc1968]

I find the 2nd amendment nut cases or anti-gun nut cases, trying to use this tragedy for thier political views dispicable, low life, and truly shows how sick society is, here we have a 8 year old boy, life ruined no matter what the circumstances, and these two adversary groups can only see a political issue! Neither group seems to me even capable of seeing the human tragedy here! No wonder in our last election, the far right lost, and the far left was marginalized, and a centrist won election! I believe in 2nd amendment but also believe some common sense laws need to be had, one does not need a machine gun to hunt, nor does one need to ban guns simply because someone committs a crime! Since criminals rarely buy their guns legally anyway!

[evian_ycnan]

Well I didn`t want to speak the unthinkable yesterday, but if both men were abusing this kid, then they got what they deserved.

And the use of a gun was appropriate in this case...

Posted by slim1h2o at 08:38 AM : Nov 10, 2008


If this goes to an Adult Court, you can bet your last dollar that the defense attorneys will push that angle, whether true or not, slathered with a lot of insinuation of homosexual activity hoping to get jury nullification.

In juvenile court, the truth is more likely to come out. There''s no percentage in trashing the victim when you are before the judge.

[usmc1968]

I still see it suspicous this boys biological mom visited the weekend before this incident, returns to Mississppi, then back in Arizona post shooting, one has to ask did she induce this by suggesting to a impressionable 8 year old, he could be with her if dad was dead, or worse did she do it, herself, since the acts reported seem execution style a little advanced for a 8 year olds abilities, did she have a 2nd unknown party do it, a boyfriend maybe, hired killer, who knows, but I am just a suspicious natured fellow, and find it hard to believe a 8 year old is capable of such a premeditated act! One might wonder if mom did not have custody, she was either unfit, or did not want custody, in our biased family court system moms have to be unfit to not get custody and dads rarely get it unless mom simply does not want it or is so unfit the court will not let them have custody, this case is suspicious under the circumstances of her visit, right after dad remarries, a new stepmom, whom the real mom might resent, be angered at someone replacing her, murder and violence has occured for less!

[evian_ycnan]

*** would you give an 8 year old a gun? Yes yes, I know it`s a constitutional right but since when does common sense fly out the window? Absolutely ludacris and completely avoidable.

Posted by crystalblue3 at 08:52 AM : Nov 10, 2008

Two weeks ago, some idiot let his kid fire an Uzi on full-auto. It kicked up and blew the kid''s head off. Maybe this is Karma.

Regards,

[evian_ycnan]

"In Arizona you can be prosecuted in adult court at age 8. That''s not true in most other states," said Murphy on The Early Show.

I think that is not true in most civilized nations. I dunno, let''s try an 8-year old as an adult and see if anyone compares it to stoning a 13-year for adultry...

Arizona -- Home of John McCain, `nuff said.

[usmc1968]

My dad taught me how to shoot .22 cal. rifle, pistols at about this boys age, dad never kept his guns under lock and key as I would do today, but thats another generation and era, I fully admit any father whom leaves a gun of any kind, out not under lock and key is asking for tragedy, many a case has occured where young children accidently shoot themselves or someone else with unlocked guns, my son age 10 has a .177 cal. pellet rifle, never uses without my direct supervision, it is kept under lock and key, cannot imagine training him in gun use yet, but do not judge those who do, since I was taught at around this boys age with no adverse effects, but not all kids are the same, not all are at the same level of maturity! Guess that is where parenting comes in, this case haunts me since I see a child of 8 ruined for life, no matter what the circumstances of this case, his dad dead, him accused, rightly or wrongly, many hard hearted demanding he get adult court treatment, juvenile detention till 18/21 depending on the laws of Arizona, and I am a resident of Arizona and do not know the law of the land here on that issue. My first impression is to question his guilt based on a coerced confession, many children older than him have been coerced into false confessions, news reports first reported he denied guilt, then confessed after agressive questioning by law enforcment!

[getoffmine1]

If there was physical abuse going on then you cannot really blame the kid. If there was not and he just did this he does need to be charged as an adult regardless of his age. If he could shoot his father and another on a whim he should never be free again. It would not be fair to those of us who follow the law.

[crystalblue3]

ohhh wait. Silly me. Common sense? What''s that?

[crystalblue3]

*** would you give an 8 year old a gun? Yes yes, I know it''s a constitutional right but since when does common sense fly out the window? Absolutely ludacris and completely avoidable.

[usmc1968]

This child is just to young to be held accountable in a adult court, I am still baffled to this case, 8 year olds like the story says, live in fantasy, cartoons, imaginary life of power rangers, nija turtles, my 10 year old son used to tell me when he grows up he wanted to be a ninja turtle hero, so for anyone to suggest this child needs adult criminal court, I say their humanity is in question, and this case has to many possible motives, maybe abuse, sexual or non sexual, a absent biological mother who just happens to visit prior to the murders, execution style murders, apparently the biological mom has a air tight alibi, or maybe not, depends on facts if reported accurately in news, does she have a boyfriend, where was he when all this happened, then there is the step-mother, where was she, if this boy did this, something drove him to it, if he falsely confessed by being coercively interrogated by police in absence of guardians, legal counsel, it is a travesty of justice, and my first impression is these law enforcement officers ought to be fired!

[slim1h2o]

Well I didn''t want to speak the unthinkable yesterday, but if both men were abusing this kid, then they got what they deserved.

And the use of a gun was appropriate in this case...