Comments on: U.S. Working Poor On The Rise, Says Report

Poverty-Level Jobs Increased By 4.7 Million Between 2002 and 2006, According To New Analysis

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by babooph October 15, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
Those now joining the poor-did they come from the rich,or the old "upward bound " middle class-I WONDER ?
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by pollroller1 October 15, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
so there are other jobs besides mfg in your town? wow!! i thought you said Bush was reason there were no jobs in your town

Posted by jamesm12341 at 09:05 AM : Oct 15, 2008
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Hey if you like buying all of your stuff from china, good for you. I personally would like to see things made in America. But what do I know. I''m just one of those stupid Democrats.
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by slim1h2o October 15, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
so, that is all the people in your town are qualified to do? was it Bush fault that you didnt train for other jobs? keep you from college?


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Posted by jamesm12341 at 08:48 AM : Oct 15, 2008

Thats one of the most ignorant statements I''ve heard.

A business closes one day, and people are supposed to be re-trained for another job the next day? We all should be ready to jump to another career, on a moments notice?

Moron...
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by pollroller1 October 15, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
Hey, a jobs a job! At least there are still some decent white guys willing to work, instead of sucking the system dry.

Posted by DaVicar1 at 08:36 AM :
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You must live in a different world than me. I had my dog to the vet the other day who happens to be black.
Oh by the way, My brother had his hand operated on by a black surgeon. I''m looking out my window and the garbage truck just stopped to pick up the trash. Well what do you know, the driver is black. Oh and by the way, when I was at Wall Mart the other day a young black lady was working the checkout line. But like I said, I may be living in a different world than you.
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by afmca October 15, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
Oh no, that can''t be. This is Bush''s ownership society where everyone will be rich and care free. McCain promises more of the same. This society is imploding and becoming more and more separated by wealth. The old Republican argument that these rich people were just smarter and earned it has been totally crushed by the Wall Street meltdown. Now we know they were just more corrupt and more greedy and got a little help from their Republican friends to avoid detection.
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by pollroller1 October 15, 2008 11:55 AM EDT
so, that is all the people in your town are qualified to do? was it Bush fault that you didnt train for other jobs? keep you from college?

Posted by jamesm12341 at 08:48 AM : Oct 15, 2008
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Oh I see, we are not supposed to make anything here in this country. Maybe that''s why China has billions of surplus dollars and we the USA are in debt billions of dollars.

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by docpeter1953 October 15, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
From the above article, "The number of jobs with pay below the poverty threshold increased to 29.4 million, or 22 percent of all jobs, in 2006 from 24.7 million, or 19 percent of all jobs, in 2002.

"The real surprising news, the alarming news, is that both the number and percentage of low-income families increased during this period," said Brandon Roberts, co-author of the report. "This was a time when we had solid and robust economic growth."
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IOW, while jobs during this time period were being created and maintained, they were poverty level jobs. The rich CEOs continued with their multi $M salaries and let their lower employees provide, what is essentially, slave labor, and without even the decency of providing healthcare.

If we take $1M away from a CEO the company can hire 2o people and pay $40K per year and still have $200K ($10K for each)left over to provide insurance and possibly a little for retirement.

GREED! It is one of the 7 deadly sins.
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by oleander8 October 15, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
''The poverty level is a reflection of the US failure at the family and educational level. It is that simple.''[Posted by payasyougo]

How are parents supposed to be guiding their children when they are both working 2 jobs to keep the roof over their head and food on the table? Education? Who can afford it anymore?
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by oleander8 October 15, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
Stop giving tax breaks to companies that send decent paying jobs overseas.
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by payasyougo October 15, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
The poverty level is a reflection of the US failure at the family and educational level. It is that simple.

If you aim at nothing, you will hit it every time.

The problem with using statistics to correlate the relationship between the dropping of standards in school and the increasing level of poverty in society is that those tasked with potentially recognizing such a correlation today were educated by those schools therefore don''t have the skill set to recognize the problem. Recognizing the problem is the first step to solving it.
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by pollroller1 October 15, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
Seems like most of those plants started closing around the time that Mr Bush took office.
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by pollroller1 October 15, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
There''s no jobs where I live. We used to have mfg jobs in our area but they are all gone. All of the plants are just empty buildings. Thanks Mr Bush. Great job Repubs.
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by wl7bzh October 15, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
The American dollar-It''s kinda like throwing a few more potatoes in the soup and adding a lot of water so that you can feed more people. Ya got a lot more soup but it''s not very nourishing.
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by irmcvet97 October 15, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
We were sold a LIE people... that''s all that can be said. We were told that IF we allowed the Corporations to destroy the Unions and ship those jobs to the Third World, we would all be rewarded. Take a drive through ANY Working Class Neighborhood you choose, doesn''t matter where, and LOOK with your OWN eyes at the REWARDS. Family after family are now working TWO or MORE jobs just to make ends meet. Family after family have to somehow find a way to make up for the loss of Retirement and Medical Benefits they thought would be there in their old age. You don''t need reports or studies to show you what TRICKLE DOWN has done... all you need is YOUR own eyes!!
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by brianbwb-2009 October 15, 2008 9:43 AM EDT
Posted by Grandesign

Wasn''t Bud sold to Stella Artois? It is now a Belgian owned beer company, who knows, it might begin to catch up to Stroh''s in quality.

Red Wings rule...
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by grandesign October 15, 2008 9:29 AM EDT
"Cindy wants to know if they drink Bud?"
Posted by dburfears at 12:38 AM : Oct 15, 2008

Joe six-pack does.
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by grandesign October 15, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
So even before such "luxuries" as TV, phone, life and health insurance, city and municipal taxes we are already at $4457.80, so it defies your logic that that is somehow a living wage, you must assume that you can get away with not paying these bills.
Posted by brianbwb at 04:56 AM : Oct 15, 2008

No, not at all. We charge the remainder to our credit cards until the either the economy goes belly up, or we file for bankruptcy. It''s part and parcel of the New Economy (circa 1998).
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by slim1h2o October 15, 2008 9:20 AM EDT
I find it interesting that all the states that are cited in this article, with the exception of Idaho, are southern states. Which are historically non-union states.

Is there any correlation there?

Of course with the closings of GM plants, and future closings of other plants in the north, we''ll have many more poor people in that region, I believe.



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by brianbwb-2009 October 15, 2008 8:19 AM EDT
"It''''s the Democrats that wanted us to bail out the rich WALL STREET guys..." Posted by CarlyLaine

Since when is Bush a Democrat? Bush came to us with the bailout BS, claiming that if we didn''t agree to his theft, the economy would collapse, as he said "within days".

The Democrats are guilty of one important flaw, stupidity, they took a proven mega-liar at his word, and once more allowed him to sacrifice more of our future based on his lies.

The Democrats didn''t want to do it, if you watched the Senate hearings, to a person they said they didn''t want to do it, but felt that inaction would be worse, rumors are that certain members were threatened that martial law would be the alternative. In addition they were goaded on international TV by GOP snake-oil salesmen Paulson (ex-CEO, Morgan Stanley, btw.) and Bernanke (Bush-GOP appointee) that they had no choice.
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by brianbwb-2009 October 15, 2008 8:08 AM EDT
Posted by CarlyLaine

It may have worked for you, but for the vast majority of Americans it is a miserable failure.

It is the way Reagan designed it, in case you haven''t noticed, between the fake wars, (Republican generated) tax breaks for big oil (GOP) and the bailouts of the S&L, airline, auto, and now banking and insurance industries, most of whom are GOP contributors, follows exactly the model Reagabn proposed, give the money to the rich, and they would create more jobs.

Read the article again, s l o w l y, and notice that the jobs created were all poverty wage jobs, the decent wage jobs were outsourced to slave labor companies, and migrant workers and illegal aliens are now doing what used to be well paying domestic jobs, construction, roadwork, farming, manufacturing, textile, etc.

This is exactly what Reagan wanted, and it is only testament to the weakness of the Democrats that they could not effectively oppose it.

That is about to change, and not a moment too soon.
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