Comments on: Community Torn Apart By Immigration Raid

Fear, Uncertainty Follow Detention Of 330 Alleged Illegal Immigrants In South Carolina

[checkthepast]

This is just another republican ploy
Posted by ahrats

If enforcing the law is a republican ploy... then what are you saying about democrats? They support criminals? Oh yeah that''s right they always have since welfare came along so why change now?

[u-r-right]

The truth is that they do jobs for just-above-slave wages that no American can afford to do.


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Posted by brianbwb at 05:48 AM : Oct 09, 2008

The above statement is absolutely true.

And the reason they can afford to take jobs so cheaply, is because they jam 10-15 or more people into a 1 or two bedroom apt. Or 2 or 3 families into a house.

Where we, as Americans, have been conditioned to get our own apt, or our own house.

A house (ownership) used to be "The American Dream".
Now, a house is nothing more than a warehouse for illegals.

For shame,, for shame.

Posted by slim1h2o at 06:27 AM : Oct 09, 2008
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I live in a small county of about 8000 people and know of at least 3 houses that were occupied by multi-family, illegals. They defaulted on their loans and abandoned the houses and left them in terrible shape. You can tell there was no pride of ownership. I would like to know how many illegals have contributed to our current mortgage crises. More than one would think I bet.

[riddelup]

How can anyone support lawbreakers. If you think the law is unjust then work to change the law. WE do need to review our immigration laws that punish people returning to lands taken from them by war. Yet we allow mass immigration from any country we invade. We allow mass immigration any country with a caucasian majority.

[stupidrules3]

If the government were serious about solving this problem, they would punish the employers. This would cause the jobs to dry up and the illegals would go back home.

[kesac4650]

Those people could have gotten legal. I work in Greenville, SC. We have a dozen LEGAL immigrants working here. They make the same good wages as anyone else, and have the same opportunities as anyone else.
They pay the same taxes.
Greenville has a lot of Defense work, auto manufacturers, the International Auto Research Center, and on and on. This is not some little community where anyone or everyone knows those arrested the other day. The community is certainly not torn apart over this, and it is their own *** fault.

[c-mo6]

"Everyone knew the plant hired illegal immigrants, said Wynn, who added no one wanted to do anything about it because they figured the workers were doing jobs no one else wanted."

This is the single most common lie used in the immigration debate.

The truth is that they do jobs for just-above-slave wages that no American can afford to do.


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Posted by brianbwb at 05:48 AM : Oct 09, 2008
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Couldnt agree more. I''ve done factory work for twenty years and americans will do these jobs if you pay them a fair wage.

[ahrats]

I understand some of these people are here illeaglly but the were working, paying taxes, not trying to live off our government, like some bankers & CEO''s are doing. Are they taking jobs from americans? If the company that hired them could not find other americans to do the work why not hire them. This is just another republican ploy to make themselves look good since everthing eles they have done has gone down the tubes with our economy.

[slim1h2o]

The truth is that they do jobs for just-above-slave wages that no American can afford to do.


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Posted by brianbwb at 05:48 AM : Oct 09, 2008

The above statement is absolutely true.

And the reason they can afford to take jobs so cheaply, is because they jam 10-15 or more people into a 1 or two bedroom apt. Or 2 or 3 families into a house.

Where we, as Americans, have been conditioned to get our own apt, or our own house.

A house (ownership) used to be "The American Dream".
Now, a house is nothing more than a warehouse for illegals.

For shame,, for shame.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Everyone knew the plant hired illegal immigrants, said Wynn, who added no one wanted to do anything about it because they figured the workers were doing jobs no one else wanted."

This is the single most common lie used in the immigration debate.

The truth is that they do jobs for just-above-slave wages that no American can afford to do.

[slim1h2o]

They were doing work that most American people would not do, 11 hour shifts at a chicken processing plant.


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Posted by Sky_Five at 02:52 AM : Oct 09, 2008

I assume you were being sarcastic. And in the same vain, child labor. We utterly refuse to send our children into the work force without a proper education 1st, and the proper age 2nd.

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Read about the history of General Rios Montt in Guatemala, his motto of "a Bible under one arm and a machine gun under the other", and his habit of killing priests, nuns, and peasants.

Montt was a close friend of Pat Robertson, got hugged by Ronald Reagan, was aligned with Oliver North and members of Operation Phoenix (Vietnam) and the World Anti-Communist League, an underground-overground network based in the Heritage Foundation incl actual Euro Nazis, Japanese, Taiwanese, and Korean fascists, along with Gen. John Singlaub and American fascists. Koreans include Rev. Sun Myung Moon a close friend of the Bush family and the Christian Right.

The group I just described, part of the Council for National Policy, that''s who chose Sarah Palin for McCain.

Besides military force, the IMF regularly "loan sharks" these countries and demands "austerity" so they slash all public services and loans, cuts off opportunities for peasants to develop a working economy, or even to survive. Bolivia recently kicked out Bechtel, which seized drinking water with collusion of their govt.

Guess where the IMF is coming next. HERE.

Not content to exterminate them with guns, we now exterminate them through economic starvation. WE have to clean our own house before we start blaming them for their poverty, but Americans are too afraid of our govt (or too ignorant or selfish) to help these gentle people survive without being subjected to extensions of CIA terror.

[rudy654-2009]

Change the laws to make it easier for the poor to come and work, and there won''t be illegals here.

Illegal is illegal?

THINK ABOUT THIS. Seriously.

America is the illegal immigrant in Latin America.

Our media denies us full knowledge of CIA and other covert operations in Guatemala, Honduras, and other countries, supporting their death squads, driving peasants off farmland into wandering starvation conditions. WE PAY FOR MURDER OUT OF OUR TAXES.

In 1921 (or so), American statesman Walter Lippman said WE OWN THEM. He said that no leader in Latin America can do anything without permission of Washington.

Any wonder why in their rich rich countries with rich soil, minerals, oil, etc. the people are so poor? Every time they have a chance to overthrow a corrupt dictatorship and install a democratic govt, WE overthrow them.

DO THEY ASSASSINATE OUR LEADERS? NO!
DO WE ASSASSINATE THEIR LEADERS? YES!
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[clew37]

I get really disgusted with the fact the media and others keep calling these people "immigrants". Immigrants is not the right word. These people are invaders. When you have 14 million people erupt over your border in the space of two presidential terms, it''s not immigration! I also don''t agree with the fact they figure if I have kids here, we all get to stay. I don''t recall on anyones constitution saying "if you pop one out here you all get a free ride". And please take your age of consent is at twelve mindset with you. We have more than enough pedophiles here already.

[anonbychoice]

expect them to pay the same taxes we pay. (Oops didn''t notice I messed that up)

[drkingjd]

Illegal is illegal. They all know they are breaking the law. Excuses are just excuses and a crime is a crime. What will be next, "I just robbed that bank because I wanted a better life for my family." They know the consequences when they commit the act. The criminal act and the mindset to commit that act are both present. i.e. GUILTY

[anonbychoice]

"The community''s transformation was slow but steady over the last 15 years as the newcomers replaced working-class whites and blacks."
I agree with you on this being a "sad" story, but atm I''m having a hard time feeling sorry for any of them. We give them everything, and it''s still not enough. How dare we make them come here legally!! How dare we expect the same taxes that we pay. I for one am tired of giving to everyone but our own. We won''t take care of our own homeless, starving children and families, but we will everyone elses?!
They should have done the right and legal thing to do, then they wouldn''t have to "worry" about anyone raiding the place they work in. And one is going to move because it''s not safe for him to live/work there illegally anymore.
"People are afraid to leave their homes," said the 35-year-old Espinoza.
GET LEGAL and you won''t have to be afraid. No sympathy left!!!

[grammawhamma]

Ok I read this sob story and yes it is heartbreaking. But and yes I mean but...what do these people think?

They broke the law when they first stepped foot illegaly on US soil. This woman has 3 kids all born here...oldest age 6. So she was here illegally for at least 6 years. Her 4 year old is recovering from surgery...who paid for that? She doesn''t want to leave her kids behind...then send them back home with her.

Enough is enough already. Come here legally and you will be welcomed and not have to worry about deportation.