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Conservative Legal Group Fighting To Abolish Restrictions On Church Involvement In Politics

[gaelgirll]

and ..Then on November 2nd of 1620, The Charter of Plymouth Council was granted by King James I of England. It stated the purposes of the settlement as authorized by this government document; one purpose was it says; "in the hope thereby to advance the enlargement of the Christian religion, to the glory of God Almighty."
In November of 1620, the Pilgrims who came here on the ship Mayflower, before leaving the ship, drew up a document to establish their government. It was called, The Mayflower Compact. This document set up their form of government, a Christian government; a government whose purpose in part was to "glorify God and to advance the Christian religion."

[gaelgirll]

hungry1968-1 Wow! You need to learn your country''s history!!No doubt you''re public school educated, which means no history, no civics, and the first wave of the new social engineering on the part of the newly minted Dept of Education and the NEA union. (if that''s your birth year)To start: The first Charter was granted by King James I of England; on April 10th of 1606 for the settlement and possession of Virginia,".. having desires for the furtherance of so noble a work which may, by the providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the glory of His divine Majesty, in the propagating of the Christian religion to such people as yet live in ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God, and may in time bring the infidels and savages, living in those parts, to human civility, and to a settled and quiet government"

[stevex47]

Mixing govt. and religion works great for muslim extremists.

Amazing how similiar the reich wing and terrorist regimes are.

[holalanemeir]

If you want Theocracy, move to Iran.

[navyjimfl]

Churches are a big scam and need to pay their fair share of taxes......I have always heard that being a preacher or priest is better than working for a living.......but they should pay taxes on the billions they bring in....

[vincan-2009]

I hope the IRS is closely watching these republican conservative party operatives. Because that is what these pitiful examples of preachers are. They are bigots and racists and not fit to lead real christians. That is what is wrong with so many churches. They are not for God, they are for republican criminals who cheat and lie.

[superdem]

without god - total and utter chaos ? Then that''s the proof there is no god - we certainly have total and utter chaos now ! HAHAHAHAHAHA

In the natural world there is always order, after a fashion. It is only in the world of men which is divoreced from Nature that chaos reigns. That is why man created god, in an attempt to understand why what we try to do usually fails. The actual answer - that we are ignorant - is not very satisfying.

[gaelgirll]

amrt5016 said: "Once we have proclaimed that the Constitution is the foundation of our society, the most tenuous connection to God, if there is one, is severed and God is no longer relevant."
You don''t understand the relationship; God is the premise upon which the Constitution makes sense - you cannot write law without a morality bounding definition. If you take away the premise, the document makes no sense. Simpler: You divorce and write a decree. If you remove the divorce from the picture, the decree becomes meaningless. The moral boundary we chose was Christianity (glad to see all the history corrections - we really did flee the Anglican Church (not Catholic!) and we came to spread the Gospel of Jesus) We chose it. We built around it, because we believed it, we knew it, we lived it. Inasmuch as liberals and secular humanists are determined to manufacture a totally different Birth of Our Nation, you cannot rewrite history.

Those who are not Christian (or are somehow offended by Christian principles) struggle with references to God, because they may be unable to articulate their own moral compass. When you say "who''s God?", here in America, it is the Christian God. It may not be your God, but our rules and regs come from His law. If you come here with a different God, you are accountable to your own God (always), but to live here, you must abide by our God%u2019s rules

[jtdev1]

Tax them they made a choice make them pay.


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Posted by antoniof123 at 02:38 PM : Sep 29, 2008






My sentiments exactly! Don''t bother taking them to court and wasting tax payer''s money, Just revoke the tax exempt status and be done with it...

Make them prove that they were following the law and not us (irs) prove anything.

Simple solution! then who cares what they preach...

[bobnjersey]

[Without God, morals and principles do not exist. Hence the decline of such for the past few decades in our nation.]
[Posted by StopSocialis at 02:03 PM : Sep 29, 2008]

so, if we just step back in time a bit ... let''s say the 16th century. the church had no issue w/ torturing and, in some cases, killing those who spoke out against the church, practiced anything the church deemed heretical, or they made claims that the earth was not the center of the universe. the church''s highest leaders (including many popes) regularly participated in conspiricies in waging war and killing innocents in the name of religion, power, or conquest.

nearly 70% of the members of the church suffered from syphilis at one point, and homosexuality was rampant throughout europe ... many were self proclaimed adherants to the church''s dogma.

is this where the morals and principles came from ... or are you full of cr@p ... trying to convince everyone that those who are ''faithful'' are somehow better than those who are not?