Comments on: Mom Admits Helping Son Build Arsenal

Bullied, Troubled Pa. Teen Was Building Grenades With Gunpowder Mom Bought, Planning School Attack, Prosecutors Say

[omded]

If someone''s fat, who cares? There''s no good reason to hassel someone simply because they''re overweight. It sounds like some people just need an excuse to hassle others. I guess that''s life. On the other hand, the hasseled sometimes need a little recourse of their own. I guess that''s life too. If you choose to use your life to harrass others, then perhaps you will lose your life. I guess that''s life. Very interesting. But it''s even more interesting that anyone actually cares about what happens to the bullies. After all, they brought it all upon themselves. Did the overweight boy ask to be harrassed? If not, then I''d say the bullies chose to reach into a hot furnace. The smell of burning flesh is somewhat unappealing. But it''s what you get when you touch something that''s very hot. I guess they don''t believe the surface is hot. Well, now they know. Very interesting.

[voidmaster-2009]

Bullies are prone to challenge their victims to fight back, often inferring if not not outright saying that they (the victims) are cowards if they do not. Yet most of the time, were the victims to fight back, it is the bully who would back down.

Bullies, you will notice, are very aware that their actions are wrong. That is why they do their bullying beyond the view of authorities. In this way, the bullies confess their own cowardice.

Finally, many parents will not take up for their own children when they are picked on by a bully. They want their kids to learn to fight back and some will will even punish a child should he dare complain of being bullied at school.

Yet no child should have to learn violence as a part of life.

[random_radar]

What defines a bully? What creates a bully? There are many issues about human interaction that are hard to understand.

But if you are making someone angry enough to kill you, you might want to reconsider what you are doing no matter what it is.

[owlwomanxxxx]

It is up to the parents of these bullies to teach ther kids RESPECT for others...then maybe there would not be so many of these school shootings going on...We do not tolerate it in the working world so why in our schools.......

[voidmaster-2009]

Choosing to be fat is not a good choice. But it is the right of anyone so inclined. Choosing to be a bully is not a right. Being a bully is a crime. Being fat is not.

[mjm117]

This mom is no better then the bully''s themselves. She enabled her son to be picked on, then enabled her son to create violent thoughts...and so did the bully''s.

Parents - if your child if fat, put them on a diet. It will help them out in more ways then one

[mjm117]

Listen. If you are picked on, do something rational about it.

If you are the parent of a kid being picked on, help your kid out. Get help within the school if it''s available - DON''T BUY YOUR KID A GUN. Teach them patience and real values. And maybe find out what the kid is being picked on about and help them fix it! If they are overweight...then you should help them eat healthy...


If you are a bully, be prepared to watch the kids you pick on surpass you in life...it happens more then not.

[mjm117]

Bullies should be murdered.


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Posted by elfelon at 07:13 PM : Sep 23, 2008


Aww...poor little elfelon got picked on and holds a grudge!

[hazelknows]

just another right wing hockey mom.....

[voidmaster-2009]

Good. Now that we''ve got that cleared up....

[voidmaster-2009]

I should not say that he bullies are "the victims," but rather that they are themselves victims as well.

[voidmaster-2009]

The biggest problem, elfelon, is that the bullies in most cases are themselves the victims. More often than not, it is the parents of bullies who ought to be charged with a crime. That crime, leading to the raising of a bully can be summed up by the term "child abuse."

[voidmaster-2009]

The notion of standing up to bullies always seems so enticing. Yet most public school systems now have a "zero tolerance for violence" policy in place. So even if a kid is defending himself, he gets punished right along with the bully. So how else is the victim to respond?

Is he just supposed to put up with it until graduation? Yeah, that''ll turn him into a stable, level-headed citizen. So what is he supposed to do?

If he goes to the "authorities" and complains, they may or may not do anything about it. For example, where I live, high school football is almost a religion unto itself. And the typical bully, should he happen to be a high school football jock, is pretty much given free license to do as he pleases. After all -- boys will be boys.

So for how long is the typically immature adolescent supposed to put up with such an intolerable existence before he acts out in a manner that is intended to be as repugnant to society as is society''s tolerance of the abuses against him? I guarantee you, in a similar situation, I would have started shooting a LONG time before graduation.

[omded]

Very interesting. I''m happy your situation worked out so well. Some do. Some don''t. That''s life. The power to forgive and forget the past. Another very interesting aspect of human ability. Probably unlike the insects and animals. I find it very moving. Good for you fine sir!

[voidmaster-2009]

And his MOM???? I say, make her sit locked up in front of a ever rotating table of fried chicken just out of her reach until she dies of starvation.

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Yeah, that would fix it.

[mjm117]

Posted by omded at 06:55 PM : Sep 23, 2008

I don''t have anything against fat people actually. I''m a bit overweight myself. I was just making light of it all.

I did clock one of them and got a few punches thrown back at me. Got chased in a car on a daily basis for 2 weeks. But, never ONCE did the thought of shooting these kids come to mind. Guess what? I ran into the "head bully" about 10 years later and he apologized to me. Funny how life works.

Now really, I''m outta here

[mjm117]

Posted by VoidMaster at 06:54 PM : Sep 23, 2008


I''m just tired of all the excuses sent the way of the shooters, or would be shooters in this case. Yes, the bully''s are WRONG. I get that. But that does not give the "fat boy" any right to spray bullets and kill the bully''s and innocents.

And his MOM???? I say, make her sit locked up in front of a ever rotating table of fried chicken just out of her reach until she dies of starvation.

I''m outta here.

[omded]

No, just watching from afar. Very interesting. Human behavior. A lot like insects and animals I''d say. The fly flies into the trap to drink it''s nector. The trap closes on the unsuspecting fly. So who''s really the hunter and who''s really the hunted? Life is never as it seems, my friend. Tell me, do you have something against fat people? Why? When you "stood up" to your bullies, am I right to presume that you fought them off? I applaud you good sir! But maybe this young man needed a little more than the power of his own fists. Very interesting indeed. A lot like all those "done me wrong" movies from back in the 1980''s. It would have been very interesting to see how this worked itself out if the young man had used his guns.

[voidmaster-2009]

I am not condoning what the kid did or what his mother did. I think psychiatric care is in order for him. I''m not sure his mother should be so lucky.

That said, my point is that bullying is not a right. Yet when some kid(s) goes off and starts shooting, they typical response is usually something along the lines of , "He did this just because he was being picked on." It implies that his being picked on was just something he should have just sucked up and put up with.

A child who is a bully is usually acting out based upon some dysfunctional aspect of his home life.

[bhappy2-2]

Posted by mjm117

Only to the extent necessary to make a gun-banning lunatic realize the absurdity of their assertion. Beyond that, not so much. Of course, normal people understand that concept. It would appear the effort was wasted on you.