Comments on: Gustav Sends Gulf Coast Residents Fleeing

Mandatory New Orleans Evacuations Ordered For Sunday Morning

[deacon20081]

For those of you far from the storms, count your blessings that you are not having to go through evacuations. I hope this time the folks from NO head north. We in Texas are willing to help our neighbors as much as we can but just the same fewer refuges would be great. I see on Google Maps that traffic flow on IH 10 from New Orleans to Houston to Austin is going a quick 25-40 miles an hour.
Remember being a kid on a road trip? "Mom or Daddy are we there yet?" The poor folks on the road!
God Speed to those on the roads and rails and buses.

[demwatcher]

"Posted by zogthevile at 08:13 PM : Aug 30, 2008"

Yeah, ALL you can do is spew your hatred of the Bush Administration. That FACT comes through quite clearly.

Typical Liberal response. Take NO RESPONSIBILITY when you can blame someone else.

If you are DUMB ENOUGH to stay in a city that IS BELOW SEA LEVEL and protected by levees that were designed for a CATEGORY 3 storm and a CATEGORY 3 storm is heading your way, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to get yourself out of harm''s way. If you insist on waiting for someone to bail you out, you DESERVE what you get. Nagin the ENTIRE Democrat machine in Louisiana FAILED, and they were the people''s FIRST LINE OF SUPPORT. Don''t spew me your inane drivel about the Government failing or Bush''s itinerary.

"It''''s one thing to support your party based upon its ideals. It''''s entirely another thing to spout lies and talking points when your party is so clearly in the wrong. This is the 21st Century and things are about to change."

You want to talk about LIES and TALKING POINTS? THAT is all you Democrats have. This is the 21st century and the BEST you can do is nominate a junior senator from Illinois with absolutely NO QUALIFICATIONS to be you candidate for president.

Tell me more about just how intelligent you dumbarses really are.

[lovesamerica]

New orleans has been there a long time. Major hurricanes do not happen every three years. Should that city be there..no. but the real problem is with the fact that people just cannot get it through their heads that some places just should not be built on. Las vegas is a good example. was in that UGLY area about 5years ago. water warnings,people who have lived there all their lives leaving because they see the writting on the wall, keep bldg, keep draining lake mead..about 60 feet down 5 yrs ago. Then when it all dries up **** about it. Lake fronts, ocean fronts, quake lines, hillsides are all spots that will change as the years go by. we are doing it to ourselves and we will all have to pay. global changes are happening and we are partly at fault.

[sistatee-2009]

I know. Let''s build a city that''s below sea level, smack-dab in the center of hurricane-alley. What could possibly go wrong with that? Maybe having to rebuild the entire city every three years could be considered a minor glitch.

[bob5ford]

This time maybe the people will be smart enough not to go back. It''s time to really re-consider having a city there, at least in the areas below sea level. The only place below sea level that is seemingly safe from flooding is Death Valley and there isn''t any city even there. Have a commercial port and oil rig transit station that is not permanent and can evacuate easily. There is no reason to put thousands of peoples lives and billions of tax dollars at risk.

[zogtheobvious]

Part 3 of reply to DEMW

9/1
STILL NO COMMAND AND CONTROL ESTABLISHED: Terry Ebbert, New Orleans Homeland Security Director: %u201CFEMA has been here 3 days, yet there is no command and control.%u201D

2PM CDT %u2014 MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES %u201CDESPERATE SOS%u201D TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

9/2
And finally, the part that YOU (DEMWATCHER) have fallen for and/or are a part of: ROVE-LED CAMPAIGN TO BLAME LOCAL OFFICIALS BEGINS: %u201CUnder the command of President Bush%u2019s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan%u2026to contain the political damage from the administration%u2019s response to Hurricane Katrina.%u201D

The foot-dragging and sheer incompetence of Bush appointed officials is in no way the local or state government''s fault. I understand how those pesky facts can sometimes interfere with a good meme, but they are what they are. Bush himself was completely unengaged in this mess.

It''s one thing to support your party based upon its ideals. It''s entirely another thing to spout lies and talking points when your party is so clearly in the wrong. This is the 21st Century and things are about to change.

[zogtheobvious]

Part 2 of reply to DEMWATCHER %u2013 with apologies; it appears I will need a part 3 as well

8/30
11AM CDT %u2014 BUSH SPEAKS ON IRAQ AT NAVAL BASE

U.S.S. BATAAN SITS OFF SHORE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED - followed storm ashore and waited for relief orders.

2PM CDT %u2014 BUSH PLAYS GUITAR WITH COUNTRY SINGER MARK WILLIS

BUSH RETURNS TO CRAWFORD FOR FINAL NIGHT OF VACATION

8/30

1:45AM CDT %u2014 FEMA REQUESTS AMBULANCES THAT DON''T EXIST

11:20 AM CDT %u2014 FEMA STAFF WARNED BROWN THAT PEOPLE WERE DYING AT THE SUPERDOME
3 hours later, Brown%u2019s press secretary stated that Brown (the horse guy) needed more time scheduled to eat at a restaurant.

PRESIDENT BUSH FINALLY ORGANIZES TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE FEDERAL RESPONSE

EARLY AM %u2014 BLANCO AGAIN TRIES TO REQUEST HELP FROM BUSH: %u201CTransferred around White House for awhile%u201D

8PM CDT %u2014 FEMA DIRECTOR BROWN CLAIMS SURPRISE OVER SIZE OF STORM

[sepa2]

Nature is like capitalism it undergoes cyclic destruction (war in the case of capitalism)

[zogtheobvious]

This reply to Demwatcher will be in two parts

Demwatcher %u2013 so the actions of your own party are above reproach?

I don''t think so.

As usual, Bush appointed a woefully inadequate crony to head FEMA.

Let''s talk about Bush''s response the day of the hurricane.


8/29
7AM CDT %u2014 KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AT CATEGORY 4

7:30 AM CDT %u2014 BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOTIFIED OF LEVEE BREACH

11:13 AM CDT - WHITE HOUSE CIRCULATES MEMO ABOUT LEVEE BREACH: %u201C...a levee in New Orleans has reportedly been breached sending 6-8 feet of water throughout the 9th ward area of the city.%u201D

MORNING %u2014 BROWN AND MAX MAYFIELD WARN BUSH ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DEVASTATION

MORNING %u2014 BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN

11AM CDT %u2014 MICHAEL BROWN (the horse guy) REQUESTS THAT 1,000 WORKERS BE SENT TO REGION, GIVES THEM 2 DAYS TO ARRIVE: %u201CBrown%u2019s memo described %u2018this near catastrophic event%u2019 but otherwise lacked any urgent language.%u201D

LATE MORNING %u2014 LEVEE BREACHED

11AM CDT %u2014 BUSH VISITS ARIZONA RESORT TO PROMOTE MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT

4:30PM CDT %u2014 BUSH VISITS TO CALIFORNIA SENIOR CENTER TO DISCUSS MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT

8PM CDT %u2014 GOV. BLANCO AGAIN REQUESTS ASSISTANCE FROM BUSH

LATE PM %u2014 BUSH GOES TO BED WITHOUT ACTING ON BLANCO%u2019S REQUESTS

[rheola-2009]

Posted by singinrich at 07:58 PM : Aug 30, 2008

Though I agree with a lot of what you say, I do think you should be a little more honest than you have been in this pathetic attempt to pose as Singinrick.

Singinrick, and he in his various psuedonyms,to give him credit, does appear to believe in what he preachs, irregardless of how delusional that belief is.

[spoonerfineart]

GOD HAS BECOME A DEMOCRAT.

James Dobson Head of Focus on the Family, prayed that is would rain during the Thursday evening speech by Barack Obama. This vain example shows that the Religious right is no longer in the favor of GOD. Because GOD now has answered another prayer to send a Hurricane to disrupt the GOP convention. GOD is no longer seen as favoring the Religious right and has become a Democrat. Repent you Republicans repent. Ask GOD to forgive you for supporting George Bush. The Hurricane is his response to your misuse of his word. Repent.

[knurlgrip]

Yes, regardless of where landfall occurs the place WILL have serious problems. The area affected by a hurricane is a couple hundred miles wide and the place that takes a direct hit isn''t much better off than if it was nuked. The energy contained in a hurricane actually is that astounding. That''s why you can''t "blow it up" or do anything to it. What would you do it with? The biggest fusion bombs ever made mess up an area a few tens of miles across at best. A poodle would have a better chance against a pit bull.

The way they rebuilt in the areas decimated by Katrina was not very wise. But not because the area cannot properly be protected - The Netherlands has contended with hurricane force North Sea storms and they fare quite well in the same types of areas. A number of years ago they wanted to collaborate with Louisiana and the feds to develop modern systems to protect low lying and below sea level areas. However, typical American arrogant attitudes prevailed ("Thanks, but we know better than you ''cos we''re the F''n U.Gdmn S.") and as a result the Dutch are sitting fine, the Gulf Coast was destroyed, and the U.S. taxpayers end up raked over the coals.

After Katrina hit, the area was repaired, not rebuilt, using 19th century technology. God help them. I''d rather not.

[vnveteran72]

I am scared for this country if Obama Hussein Barack is elected? Are you scared as well?

Mccain and Sarah please do not let this live abortion maniac win!


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Posted by Scaredchild at 07:37 PM : Aug 30, 2008
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The only thing that scares me is 4 more years of Reich Wingnut Treason and Fundie Retardds in positions of control......Really frightening.....

[mcveteran72]

The negro experiment in democracy has failed.

Stand down "chocolate city" mayor Nagin.

STAND DOWN!

[zogtheobvious]

BLACKSHAFT- So because "Change" is often associated with the "Winds of Change"... and because Barack Obama promises change... and because hurricanes have wind, we shouldn''t vote for Obama?

Got it.

P.S. What does the fact that his middle name is "Hussein" have to do with anything? My name is Mike. Am I responsible for the actions of everyone in the world named "Mike"?

The Republican Party needs to quit being so damned ridiculous.

[demwatcher]

"BTW, Katrina was a failure of government, not just one party. The Democratic government in the region didn''''t take the hurricane seriously enough when it was coming, and the Republican government (Republic Government?) in DC didn''''t take the catastrophe seriously enough after it happened. Plenty of blame to go around, and it''''s not just Democrats who are determined to avoid a repeat. The Republicans are just as aware of their screw-ups and are on their best behavior.

Any other interpretation of the coming event is a right-wing attack and nothing more.

Posted by zogthevile at 06:42 PM : Aug 30, 2008"

Katrina was a failure FIRST AND FOREMOST of the people of New Orleans, the city government, and state officials. The people for NOT using the brains they were born with to get out of the was (they had PLENTY of warning), the city for not using every available resource to aid those that would not or could not leave, and the state for not making sure the in-place emergency plans were followed.

The response by the US government was doomed to failure from the beginning because of the failure ALL THE WAY down the line.

[ubrew12]

Hurricane Gustav! Quite a GUST you ''AVe!

[blackshaft-2009]

The CHANGE
We need the winds of CHANGE! Just for a few good examples we had Katrina. It left the people in New Orleans happy and loved? The winds of CHANGE left them homeless and distraught, a good thing right? The winds of CHANGE brought economic disaster, where the people suffered hardships unimaginable to the average person! The winds of CHANGE WAS STRONG IN ITS INFLUENCE in the lives of these individuals! The winds of CHANGE stood tall when it hit! The winds of CHANGE WERE STRONG IN ITS APPROACH! The winds of CHANGE could not be reversed once it struck! The winds of CHANGE have left devastation for years to come! Yes I can see why we need a CHANGE for a wind that we know does not know where it will hit! Or what it will do! Or where it will go! All we know is the winds of CHANGE IS ALWAYS PRESENT BUT NOT MOVING UNTIL IT HITS without warning! Oh if we could only stop it!

Should we allow Barack Hussein Obama to CHANGE us with his wind?
NO and NO again!

[zogtheobvious]

"LibsEatSh1t" wrote:

"Michael Moore: Hurricane During GOP Convention ''''''''Proof There Is a God in Heaven''''''''

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As a liberal myself, his comments made me groan. All Right-wing smears aside, this simply does NOT represent the mindset of your average liberal, and you''re right to call him on it.
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And notice how this time, the stupid Dems in NOLA are actually USING the plans that are in place, rather than ignore them like they did in Katrina? [...] The plans are there, have been for years. Now we know that all the blame lies squarely on the Democrat politicains of LA.


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Dude, it''s DemocratIC. Seriously. What does this kind of sneering rhetoric accomplish? You sound like a schoolyard bully. Don''t you think you should''ve left that kind of *** behind after the sixth grade? Republicans, grow up. This kind of partisan name-calling hackery (like your nickname) is soon to be obsolete, as you''ll see during the upcoming Obama Administration.

BTW, Katrina was a failure of government, not just one party. The Democratic government in the region didn''t take the hurricane seriously enough when it was coming, and the Republican government (Republic Government?) in DC didn''t take the catastrophe seriously enough after it happened. Plenty of blame to go around, and it''s not just Democrats who are determined to avoid a repeat. The Republicans are just as aware of their screw-ups and are on their best behavior.

Any other interpretation of the coming event is a right-wing attack and nothing more.

[vnveteran72]

Quick, somebody call Brownie.....He did a hecuvajob last time, why change things???.......