Comments on: Feds: Fire Downed WTC Building 7 On 9/11

But Critics Say There Is Evidence Explosives Were Behind Demise Of Skyscraper Next To Twin Towers

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by mycomment-2009 August 22, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Hey, exciting news....since SpanAir crashed, why don''t you run over to that news story and start formulating a bunch of new conspiracy theories for it. Gosh, as long as there are tragedies you guys have plenty of entertainment!
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by ibzjem August 22, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
Oh boy, every body loves a conspiracy theory. It''s almost as good as reading what Bradgelina are doing right now.
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by concorde5 August 22, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
"...their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a skyscraper."
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I''M NOT BUYING IT! I don''t think there is a snowball''s chance in h*ll that this steel and concrete building collapsed due to burning debris.

There is a big chunck of this story missing.
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by bobnjersey August 22, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
[Let me understand the premise behind the conpiracy theories: We have a president that 1) Can''''t keep secret prisons secret; 2)Can''''t say "nuclear"; 3)Fails to plan for post-invasion stabilization of Iraq; 4)Fails to keep secret wiretapping secret; 5)Fails to keep secret interrogation tactics secret...
and yet...manages, with 8 months in office, to pull off the largest, most complex hoax in human history - in order to facilitate all of the bungling in his subsequent 8 years in office.]
[Posted by KaylaG04 at 11:00 AM : Aug 22, 2008]

i''m not defending any particular theory about the demise of the wtc site on 9/11 ... many are a bit over the top. but what you have in this admin is ''the village idiot'' in the top position, surrounded by a group of radical ideologues, backed by a group of wealthy and influential supporters who want their interests forwarded. this radical group has been culled a bit w/ time ... but there are still many still in these high seats of power.

don''t expect the real structure behind the machinations of this admin to be out in the open ... they do everything in secret ... and the only things you know about are those they either choose to let you see ... or ones that were leaked.

it''s these realities that fuel these theories ... and at the end of the day anything is possible w/ this group of people ... they''re only principle in life is ''the ends justify the means''.
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by liberalme August 22, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
Fire - Unlike wood, concrete does not burn. Unlike steel, it does not soften and bend. Concrete does not break down until it is exposed to thousands of degrees Fahrenheit - far more than is present in the typical house fire. In tests, Premere ICF walls were subjected to continuous gas flames and temperatures of up to 2000: F for as long as 4 hours. None of the Premere walls ever failed structurally.

Steel will burn at 200 degrees

"The obvious stares you in the face."


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by smiley676 August 22, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
There are several good youtube videos on this. The "9/11 coincidences" is a real good one,all fact based, although I guess youtube takes it down occasionally.

There is no way fire brought down building 7. None!!!


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Posted by lochlan

I''ve seen several good youtube videos on how to make videos that look real.

Have you ever seen a fire? Stop and think about what happened. When the towers fell, it was like an earthquake, the buildings around all had structural damage. And then there was fire and the lack of water. Why is it so hard to believe that fire caused this collapse?
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by smiley676 August 22, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
and yet...
manages, with 8 months in office, to pull off the largest, most complex hoax in human history - in order to facilitate all of the bungling in his subsequent 8 years in office.


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Posted by KaylaG04

Don''t you know that Bush is the most intelligent and devious person in the world?

Except of course in understanding the economy, international policies,and the U.S. people?
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by kaylag04 August 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
Let me understand the premise behind the conpiracy theories: We have a president that 1) Can''t keep secret prisons secret; 2)Can''t say "nuclear"; 3)Fails to plan for post-invasion stabilization of Iraq; 4)Fails to keep secret wiretapping secret; 5)Fails to keep secret interrogation tactics secret...
and yet...
manages, with 8 months in office, to pull off the largest, most complex hoax in human history - in order to facilitate all of the bungling in his subsequent 8 years in office.
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by skalpakian August 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
"Dara - we appreciate Larry has a spokesperson today, but where were you when he said: ''''I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, ''''We''''ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.'''' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse''''


So post a link to the "comment".
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by talkingham August 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT
We have become a nation of sheeple - move along sheeple nothing to see here, move along now...
Conspiracy theories aside there are many angles on the whole 911 that our gov and their corporate media surrogates will just never talk about without saying anyone who doesn''t believe the official explanation are laughable theorists. What''s laughable is that this is the first time one modern steel structural building has collapsed (turned to powder almost) much less 3 in a span of a few hours.

And, even if the Tower collapse were completely the result of the jet strikes it would be so easy for an intelligence agency foreign or domestic to use such terrorists as a smoke screen for achieving their goals of pushing this nation into a useless virtually un-winable shooting war against "terrorists" who have no nation-based geographical center.

Given the fact that in the 2 months previous to 911 we were supposedly in a state of heightened alert against terror acts and several airliners go missing at the same time and there is no scramble of military aircraft to investigate is beyond absurd to the point of dereliction of duty and I mean someone should be HANGED for it, conspiracy or no. But like I said, nothing to see here sheeple, move along now.
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by lochlan-2009 August 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT
This was an inside job and even the NY Police and Fire Fighters no first hand. Bush allowed this to happen and the evidence is blatant in the collapse of building 7. Believe the lies if you want to, that''s your choice. There are several good youtube videos on this. The "9/11 coincidences" is a real good one,all fact based, although I guess youtube takes it down occasionally.

There is no way fire brought down building 7. None!!!
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by libsluv2spit August 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
Bu$hCo has lied about everything.

Now they tell the truth?


Posted by Inventagod2 at 09:22 AM : Aug 22, 2008
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where are we on that impeachement????????
all the lies all the crimes all the bruhaha all that MONEY LIBERAL HOLLYWOOD MADE FROM YOU MORONS selling you bullsh*t and allegations..

still no impeachment?? pelosi pulling the process because of no ''facts''???

you guys are the biggest morons in the world..
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by inventagod2 August 22, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
''Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day,'' said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.''

Dara - we appreciate Larry has a spokesperson today, but where were you when he said: ''I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, ''We''ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.'' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse''
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by inventagod2 August 22, 2008 12:22 PM EDT

Bu$hCo has lied about everything.

Now they tell the truth?

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by slim1h2o August 22, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
No planes hit WTC 7. That is why the fact that it collapsed is so mysterious.

Posted by getoffmine at 08:24 AM : Aug 22, 2008

Mysterious?

You have 2 colossal builds that collapse next door to a building? And you think that no structural damage couldn''t occur? To the neighboring building?

Not so mysterious to me at all. I''m surprised that more buildings didn''t fall, after the collapse of the WTC.
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by mycomment-2009 August 22, 2008 10:07 AM EDT
In 1988, a fire in the First Interstate Bank Building in Los Angeles raged for 3.5 hours and gutted 5 of this building%u2019s 62 floors, but there was no significant structural damage (FEMA, 1988).....blah, blah, blah, blah....And yet we are supposed to believe that a 56-minute fire caused the south tower to collapse.
Posted by redwhtblue2 at 01:00 AM : Aug 22, 2008

Funny, but in your remarks I can''t seem to find where ANY of the buildings you mentioned had a JET RAM INTO them loaded with fuel. That''s not even an apples to oranges senerio....more like apples to raisins.


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by slim1h2o August 22, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
jacksteen;

I agree, but 3 1/2 pages worth? Com''on!

Lay off!
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by cfin5 August 22, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
Posted by JackSteen2 at 06:13 AM : Aug 22, 2008--- So Mr. Mature,......what do you call your posting disability. Widestance trolling?
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by whiskyrokkr August 22, 2008 8:30 AM EDT
So most of the comments here lean towards a gov conspiracy. Think about what you are saying. Lay off the drugs man!
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by downtowner97 August 22, 2008 4:34 AM EDT
"Naturally the common people don''t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
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