Comments on: Study: Minority Students Paddled More

Human Rights Watch Says Black Kids Receive Corporal Punishment Twice As Often

[lalabradle]

Looking at the states that allow this, I don''t think it''s good for teachers to abuse children of one race more than another. Watch The Nanny, most of those children are white and definitely more out of control. When you see a child throwing a tantrum in the store and talking back to mommy, they are usually white.

[lalabradle]

Well what I find amusing is, they are allowed to paddle kids at school, but if the parents paddle them at home, they are ready to take them away. I also find it amazing that some of you seem to think minority children need it more, but the minority children are not the ones shooting up schools.

[peacedreamer-2009]

I believe it. I used to be a teacher''s aide and I saw the teacher criticize, belittle, mock and emotionally abuse the children of color and praise the white children for no particular reason. If a black child had trouble reading a passage, she would say it was because blacks don''t learn as easily and if a white kid had trouble, she would say, don''t worry, you are a new reader, you''ll learn. I talked to the dean, but he said she was a friend of his and he couldn''t confront her about what she was doing. I couldn''t take it so I quit.

[checkthepast]

When I was in grade school, I once got a swat. I knew at the time that anger had nothing to do with it.
I did straighten up. Race had nothing to do with it either.

Posted by kesac4650

Very cool comment!!

[checkthepast]

menmotoscutr

If you consider correcting a child with a smack on their little hands or butts to be a "physical confrontation" you have already lost the battle. Give up and please don''t have any children, and if you already do then I''m sure your good friends down at DCFS are in you future (if not in your present)

[peach652]

The real study here should be "why a disproportional amount of minority children (and adults) behave in manners that require discipline by today''s standards and laws."
-- Posted by checkthepast at 09:50 AM


My thoughts exactly!

[kesac4650]

When I was in grade school, I once got a swat. I knew at the time that anger had nothing to do with it.
I did straighten up. Race had nothing to do with it either.

[credibility2]

To knowhr: The truth will set you free. It''s an excuse citing minority status. True, there are many white students that are disruptive, out of control, poorly raised, over-indulged, but it is a fact that disproportionately blacks and Hispanics are the biggest trouble-makers and disruptive in especially primary school settings in urban and suburban areas. It''s also too bad that many of the PC ilk automatically accuse those that speak the truth as being bigots. I''m sure you''re a major part of the problems in our society and the rapid decline in our educational system, because it sounds to me like you pander, over-indulge, reward someone for not really doing anything significant except perhaps what the individual was supposed to do in the first place (like show up to school, do their homework, pay attention, ad nauseum). Schools are to instruct, not raise and discipline. And, lax not very bright parents end up producing kids the same as themselves.

[waterandsand]

called discipline people,, try some. ***** like this is whats makin this country go down the crapperr.

"The reason a 3-year-old got paddled was because he was untying his shoes and playing with the air conditioner thermostat." That is patently absurd! Struck a blow because someone unties his shoes? And why was the A/C thermostat where a 3 year old could reach it, anyway? I suggest that this school be cited for violation of some building code that specifies the height of such controls. In my opinion, and that''s all it is, a child struck by an adult should be taken to the emergency room for evaluation and pictures, and a small claims suit filed for the expenses. Bringing and winning enough of these suits, which require a level of proof quite within the purview of the parents, perhaps administrators will find physical confrontation with 3 year olds unprofitable.

[mandalay-bay]

G''d America

[checkthepast]

From a non-bigoted viewpoint, if the media insist on bringing this to light then I still believe..
The real study here should be "why a disproportional amount of minority children (and adults) behave in manners that require discipline by today''s standards and laws."

Posted by checkthepast at 09:50 AM

[co11bang]

These comments are disgusting. Go ahead, hit kids of color that will solve the problems. I''m from Littleton, CO and if I remember correctly the Columbine kids were pretty *** problematic...beat your own kids leave mine alone!

[questionnews]

While at the supermarket, I was in the cereal isle when a (white) women with what I would say was a 5 year old boy when the kid starts grabbing items off the shelf. The mother began to take the items from the kid and the kid started cussing like a drunk sailor and repeatedly called her the "c-word" Efing B!tch, whhore and a host of other names, and the mother did nothing!!?? I couldn''t help but say to my wife that that kid could sure use his mouth washed out with soap and the mother(apparently overhearing) started screaming obscenities at the top of her lungs about how she is a great mother she is. The cool part was that about 10 other people that were there started telling her how they felt about parenting. She then grabbed the kid by the arm and violently yanked him around while leaving the store screaming at the kid the whole way.

What did I learn?--Most kids are mirrors of thier parents.

[tjdesocio]

just maybe the discipline has nothing to do with race and it''s just about behavior. spare the rod, spoil the child. maybe race is still an issue in this country because the media won''t let it go. i''m so sick of ''statistics'' that discriminate.

[rushliberal]

I teach children computers in school - 98% white - and there are the same levels of discipline problems and it has nothing to do with color of the skin - it has to do with the Home environment and the interaction between the parents and the children.

There are well disciplined children - the economic conditions of the family seem to control 80% of the childrens behavior but there are always exceptions in the economic ladder as well - meaning that children from upper class families think they are ''MORE'' special then ''ANYONE'' else including the teachers and you can tell they need a Good smack on the Arse.

Then there are some amazing lower class children with practically nothing at home and come in cleaner and more well behaved then all the rest.

I am convinced the Home is where Discipline should be not the school. Also with today''s economic conditions by the No child gets ahead except rich kids educational system of the Bush Admin these conditions I am sure will rise.

[dagrandma]

gop_forever: I wish you would quit stereotyping liberals. I''m a liberal and I''m a mother. I have three grown sons who are fine men and I didn''t have to beat their little a**es to get them that way. I also didn''t want to "relive my childhood" through them. I will say that if I felt it was deserving, I would have spanked them. I''m not against spanking. I''m just in favor of using other methods first.

[checkthepast]

Credibility2 Very well said!

One thing I did notice about the researchers view point is in the last statement...."It teaches children to hit someone smaller and weaker when angry..."
My parents NEVER disciplined me in ANGER.. and that is passed on to me. As a father of 7 discipline is for correction, not for revenge or anger venting. If the researchers are seeing things from that viewpoint then it''s no wonder they are confused.

[darnedsocks]

IT''S A GOOD THING THEY HAVE SPANKINGS / DISCIPLINE IN THESE SCHOOLS....THE SCHOOLS THAT DON''T END UP TURNING THE KIDS INTO GANG MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY NEVER LEARN PROPER SOCIAL BOUNDARIES.

[credibility2]

I taught for some time in both the urban and suburban school systems. In general, the worst behaved and problematic kids were blacks and Hispanics, with only occasionally, whites. I noticed a general disrespect for authority by many of these schools and it was obvious to me by their behavior that they were products of ill-bred homes where either the parents or guardians were totally disinvolved with properly raising their kids, which also includes disciplining them and teaching them how to act responsibly in a social situation, especially in the classroom. Misbehaving and disruptive kids are a major problem for the rest of the class, since it takes from them precious instruction time from the teacher since they have to discipline and even try raising a problematic and wayward kid. The other problem is the burden of Spanish speaking only kids who aren''t being taught English and therefore the kids are distracted. There isn''t anything wrong with spanking or paddling. I refer back to how the mother bear swats her baby cub when it''s not paying attention to her by misbehaving. The cub learns from this and who is in charge and why it''s necessary to learn by example, even if that includes getting swatted. Most parents know how to use spanking and paddling minimally and without inflicting pain. Being a minority is just an excuse for bad, unruly disgusting behavior.