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Top Court Rules Doctors Can't Invoke Moral Objections To Refuse Treatment To Gays, Lesbians
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It seems you''''''''re following the liberal playbook right down to the letter...
But I got you - and you know it...
Posted by dogsoul at 11:41 AM : Aug 19, 2008
I''m neither liberal nor gay. Just a rational person who follows Jesus''s advice to remove the log from my eye before I go around pointing out the splinter in everyone else''s. You should look into that sometime.- Reply to this comment
- Hmmm your alive the same day I am yet you know what happened all the way back then because scientists said so? you have no idea what happened back then and neither do I. My proof is the bible. why do YOU expand your mind past the dicovery channel and open up possibilities
Posted by iuphockey12 at 11:31 AM : Aug 19, 2008
Hate to tell you, the Bible is full of stupid nonsense. I can post quotes of passages that tell us today that people used to live in superstition and ignorance but I don''t want to insult you and other readers.
I do have a lot of respect for scientists. They developed the atomic bomb that helped America end WWII decisively, DNA technology that has revolutionized the science of forensic evidence and spawned advances in genetic engineering. Pretty good track record and I''ve barely scratched the surface.
What''s the Bible done for you? You think your prayers will save you medical bills so you don''t need a doctor? Good way to meet your maker soon. - Reply to this comment
- Dogsoul--You are a lost cause.I realize that I cannot reason with the unreasonable.Go ahead, believe what you will but understand that your foundation is shaky----shored up by pseudo-science and superstition.
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- Oh, so it''s copy & paste time??? Yep, when beaten'' the liberal will just keep repeating himself over & over again.... I can do that too
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/D
aileyGayAdopt.php
This article refutes what you have said, it is well sourced & researched - I''''ll leave it to the posters to judge for themselves.
In fact, the article points out just how biased & UNscientific YOUR studies are... many of which are written by lesbian ACTIVISTS!
You wanted proof, studies, etc... I have provided them in abundance. You don''''t like what they say - so you simply try to invalidate them as ''''biased''''...
It seems you''''re following the liberal playbook right down to the letter...
But I got you - and you know it... - Reply to this comment
- These "Doctors" or those who provide services based on their hate tactics cloaked as being "OF GOD", are not only a danger to the gay community but to the straight community as well. Should one of these "professionals" be responding to a life threatening situation where they "suspect" you are gay, might not their judgment in doing what is humanly right be fogged by their religions teaching of hate and judge. If you look gay in the eyes of these %u201Cprofessionals%u201D chances are you are getting a direct ticket to the after-life without passing GO. Exposed? Punished? NO!~ They should be banned from practicing where their self imposed beliefs are deadly to the people who fall unexpectedly in their care!
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- What sometimes happens to homosexuals in nature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn598eqFjcQ&feature=related - Reply to this comment
Dogsoul----you have yet to produce a single SCIENTIFIC study of any merit.Any serious,rigorous study does not have a precoceived conclusion.These so-called studies you cite are of dubious anti-gay origin.Exactly for this reason is why you would fail ANY university level course----shoddy research skills.
Posted by mensarino at 11:08 AM : Aug 19, 2008
dogsoul
mesarino''s right, you''ve got nothing.- Reply to this comment
The Bible says eating shrimp is an abomination too. Or touching a woman in her period. The Bible was written when the world believed the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth and no dinosaurs ever existed and while it recorded natural calamities like the Flood, it had no knowledge of asteriod impacts that occurred before man set foot on the planet and caused mass extinctions of life. We''''''''re in the 21st century already. Try to expand your reading horizon.
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Posted by jon2012
Hmmm your alive the same day I am yet you know what happened all the way back then because scientists said so? you have no idea what happened back then and neither do I. My proof is the bible. why do YOU expand your mind past the dicovery channel and open up possibilities
Posted by iuphockey12 at 11:31 AM : Aug 19, 2008
The Bible doesn''t prove anything but that man has, on one hand, the desire to know God and, on the other, a desire to manipulate and control others through their desire to know God.- Reply to this comment
- This is the bottom line for me. If you work for a secular organization, you cannot discriminate based on religious beliefs. If you have moral objections, go work for a religious organization where this would be supported; plenty of them out there. Or, start a private practice where you can dictate your own terms, and don''t accept any insurance funded by taxpayer dollars.
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- great quote from the study:
"In truth, the two roles are fundamentally incompatible. The instability, susceptibility to disease, and domestic violence that is disproportionate in homosexual and lesbian relationships would normally render such households unfit to be granted custody of children. However, in the current social imperative to rush headlong into granting legitimacy to the practice of homosexuality in every conceivable area of life, such considerations are often ignored.
But children are not guinea pigs to be used in social experiments in redefining the institution of marriage. They are vulnerable individuals with vital emotional and developmental needs. The great harm done by denying them both a mother and a father in a committed marriage will not easily be reversed, and society will pay a grievous price for its ill-advised adventurism. " - Reply to this comment
- But, actually, some same-*** birds do do it. So do beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans. Zoologists are discovering that homosexual and bisexual activity is not unknown within the animal kingdom.
Posted by midvale3
The occurrence of homosexuality throughout the animal kingdom is well-known. I don''t think midvale3 need to produce his/her sources. Anyone posting on this board who is unaware should consider that they''re not sufficiently informed to participate. - Reply to this comment
- While it may seem blasphemy to some, homosexuals do have faith and beliefs. And an amendment to the Constitution curbing their rights to their beliefs would certainly open the door to amendments curbing the beliefs of all religions.
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- http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/DaileyGayAdopt.php
This article refutes what you have said, it is well sourced & researched - I''ll leave it to the posters to judge for themselves.
In fact, the article points out just how biased & UNscientific YOUR studies are... many of which are written by lesbian ACTIVISTS!
You wanted proof, studies, etc... I have provided them in abundance. You don''t like what they say - so you simply try to invalidate them as ''biased''...
It seems you''re following the liberal playbook right down to the letter...
But I got you - and you know it... - Reply to this comment
- The Bible says eating shrimp is an abomination too. Or touching a woman in her period. The Bible was written when the world believed the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth and no dinosaurs ever existed and while it recorded natural calamities like the Flood, it had no knowledge of asteriod impacts that occurred before man set foot on the planet and caused mass extinctions of life. We''''re in the 21st century already. Try to expand your reading horizon.
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Posted by jon2012
Hmmm your alive the same day I am yet you know what happened all the way back then because scientists said so? you have no idea what happened back then and neither do I. My proof is the bible. why do YOU expand your mind past the dicovery channel and open up possibilities - Reply to this comment
- First of all I would like a source. Second of all, if you put these animals around only male subjects or have coincidentally been around male subjects they will probably act in such ways whereas we humans have intelligence far beyond theirs.
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Posted by iuphockey12 at 11:23 AM : Aug 19, 2008
I posted the link. Look at what you wrote. If it is a "monkey see, monkey do" and they have not seen "normal" pairs, where did they learn to sin? And when they do get to be around females, why do they reject them? There are parts of the brain that are wired for sexual orientation. Some people like a certain type of person in appearance, size, etc. The symetry of the face can trigger arousal or attraction. We are learning more everyday, but the Bible restricts that knowledge because some people are scared dad will "catch us sneaking a peek at the Playboys". Grow up, thunder is not God bowling. - Reply to this comment
- "Robert Tyler, one of the lawyers for the clinic, said the ruling advanced the Supreme Court''''''''s "radical agenda" and would help the campaign supporting a November ballot initiative that seeks to once again ban gay marriage in California."
While it may seem blasphemy to some, homosexuals do have faith and beliefs. And an amendment to the Constitution curbing their rights to their beliefs would certainly open the door to amendments curbing the beliefs of all religions. - Reply to this comment
- 1uphockey---Your ignorance is staggering. There are many,many species where homosexuality is present.Furthermore,at the risk of enfuriating you, the bible does not qualify as a legitimate scientific source.Faith,yes----fact,unproven
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Posted by mensarino
Oh thats right. Christians dont have a voice anymore liberals are afraid its going to offend them and everyone. And yes, the Bible is a source because its written documentation professor, whereas scienctific literature is a credible source, can be statistically wrong to fit the scietists hypothesis. As your rebuttal will be the same about the bible, but the bible was written by many men, some of whom were scholars like yourself. Are you calling them liars? - Reply to this comment
- I''ll ask again. Why did the doctors treat her all the way up to the actual insemination procedure, and THEN object on moral grounds? And why then give a referral to another doctor, rather than just refusing outright to participate in any way? The "religious grounds" objection is laughable here.
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Dogsoul----you have yet to produce a single SCIENTIFIC study of any merit.Any serious,rigorous study does not have a precoceived conclusion.These so-called studies you cite are of dubious anti-gay origin.Exactly for this reason is why you would fail ANY university level course----shoddy research skills.
Posted by mensarino at 11:08 AM : Aug 19, 2008
dogsoul
mesarino''s right, you''ve got nothing.- Reply to this comment
- "Robert Tyler, one of the lawyers for the clinic, said the ruling advanced the Supreme Court''''s "radical agenda" and would help the campaign supporting a November ballot initiative that seeks to once again ban gay marriage in California."
While it may seem blasphemy to some, homosexuals do have faith and beliefs. And an amendment to the Constitution curbing their rights to their beliefs would certainly open the door to amendments curbing the beliefs of all religions. - Reply to this comment
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