Comments on: Scientist Says Anthrax Suspect Stalked Her

Microbiologist Says Bruce Ivins Was Obsessed With Her Sorority; Stalked Her For Decades

[txgrouch2006]

I''m glad the majority of posters realize that THERE''S NO WAY IVINS COULD HAVE DONE IT ALONE.

This was NOT a one-man job.

Scientists say there''''s no way anyone could have produced this much powder form anthrax in secret. It would have been a MASSIVE AND CONSPICUOUS effort. And it DID OCCUR somewhere. Where?

It required cooperation of lab management to set up a secret lab for such a massive effort. And lab management, not a lab scientist, would have been motivated by increased funding from a public scare.

One deranged scientist could not have done this alone. Whether Ivins was involved or not, he COULD NOT have acted alone.

[txgrouch2006]

Beware the power of really stupid people in large groups, especially in our federal government.
Posted by messiahx4eve at 02:09 PM : Aug 09, 2008

Beware the power of really CROOKED people in large groups even more.

[lambor59]

Another big cover up by this most corrupted goverment. they think that by killing him, it will be the end of it, no one will ever know the truth.

[lambor59]

This is another MISSION IMPOSSIBLE by 2 SOB
Bush and Cheney, they did it again, just like they did against CIA operative Valerie Plame, this time to a very nice army scientist. This scientist was ready to tell us the whole true, then they killed him, reported as sucide and used hime as a scape goat, poor army scientist.

[coronalu]

All these comments about geeks (?) remind of the a reguler guy talking to a another guy that works out and had some solid muscles on his body, well this regular looking guy looks at the guy that works out and tells hime "how does it feel having all muscle and no brains?", well the guy with muscles looks at the regular looking guy and tells him "how does it feel having neither?"

[messiahx4eve]

What is sooooooooo amusing about all this boils down to them thinking we are as stupid as they are. Just think about that one for a minute. All the lessons in life we teach and instill in our children mean NOTHING to these sanctimonious vermin. True REALITY totally escapes them all together. Beware the power of really stupid people in large groups, especially in our federal government.

[messiahx4eve]

The bush regime is nothing more than a cheap knock-off Greek tragedy play that has left many wondering and thinking, "if this cow flop of a president can get away with what he has done, why can''t I?" Our choices are BOTH scraps from the bottom of the heap, both have the same inherent qualities of a carnival barker, a mouth like an experienced hooker, no conscience, and about as in touch with reality as McCarthy was. Perhaps all politicians should go live on a reservation & leave the real America to WE, the PEOPLE.

[docadams3]

Geeks are frequently creeps. They are not well socialized. The same OCD patterns that make them successful are the same personality characteristics that make them likely to be obsessive about all kinds of things. You don''t get one without the other.

[rhs648]

Just more "Housecleaning" and tying up loose ends by the Neocon Nazis before they depart the Hollowed-Out Shell that once was a Free, Strong, and Prosperous Nation. All e-mails and hard-drives are being erased, papers shredded, and Low-Level Toadies Wacked.
If not for the Empty Treasury, Dead and Mutilated Servicemen and Women, and Stacks of Unpaid Bills from everywhere on the Planet, you''''d never know they were ever here.......

Posted by vnveteran72

Just like every administration before the Bush administration. Some things don''t change.

[vnveteran72]

Just more "Housecleaning" and tying up loose ends by the Neocon Nazis before they depart the Hollowed-Out Shell that once was a Free, Strong, and Prosperous Nation. All e-mails and hard-drives are being erased, papers shredded, and Low-Level Toadies Wacked.
If not for the Empty Treasury, Dead and Mutilated Servicemen and Women, and Stacks of Unpaid Bills from everywhere on the Planet, you''d never know they were ever here.......

[blackyowe]

It''s such a comfort to know the military employs such high caliber people. This one is a real winner.

[rhs648]

I would find it hard to believe that the FBI wasn''''t ''''motivated'''' to move the direction of the investigation away from Ivins and towards someone else like Hatfill, accompanied by draining of ponds to show the public where the investigation was ''''seriously'''' heading. I would also find it hard to believe that Hatfill didn''''t volunteer himself to play along, as long as the planned multi-million dollar payoff of a lawsuit WITHOUT going to court and again requiring public scrutiny, was a ''''slam dunk''''.

Posted by prometheus41

Hi prometheus41,

The problem with this is the chance that Hatfill could be found guilty and sentenced to life in prison or sentenced to death. This sounds like a gamble few of us would take. Suppose Ivins helped point the FBI to Hatfill as a suspect. One of the articles stated that Ivins participated in the FBI investigation as an anthrax authority. Sounds like the fox guarding the hen house.

[ioweign]

"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he''''d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002." Hillary Clinton
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com
/washington/2008/03/hillary-clinton.html

Posted by terrorislamv at 04:44 AM : Aug 09, 2008

Life time of experience "doing what" ?

He was born into a military family, went to a military college, had a military career and went into politics. He certainly knows how to use that Federal umbrella and has only one signature on his paychecks - Uncle Sam....

[stevenga777]

American fans angered by Olympic ceremony TV blackout by NBC
Aug 8, 4:32 pm EDT

Buzz Up Print
NEW YORK (AFP) - The rest of the world might have been dazzled by the Beijing Olympic opening ceremony but angry US viewers clamoring for a glimpse of the spectacle on Friday were made to wait after a media blackout.

US network NBC, which owns exclusive rights to Olympics coverage in the United States, refrained from showing the opening ceremony live, preferring instead to delay coverage by 12 hours for a prime-time evening slot.

A spokesman for NBC, which paid nearly 900 million dollars for Olympic broadcast rights, said the decision was taken to maximize viewing figures.

"It''s a business decision," the spokesman told AFP. "It protects our affiliates, our advertisers, and shows it to the largest number of viewers possible," he added.

Bizarrely, the co-hosts of NBC''s breakfast television show barely mentioned the ongoing ceremony during their broadcast, which was reportedly pre-taped.

[stevenga777]

American fans angered by Olympic ceremony TV blackout by NBC
Aug 8, 4:32 pm EDT

Buzz Up Print
NEW YORK (AFP) - The rest of the world might have been dazzled by the Beijing Olympic opening ceremony but angry US viewers clamoring for a glimpse of the spectacle on Friday were made to wait after a media blackout.

US network NBC, which owns exclusive rights to Olympics coverage in the United States, refrained from showing the opening ceremony live, preferring instead to delay coverage by 12 hours for a prime-time evening slot.

A spokesman for NBC, which paid nearly 900 million dollars for Olympic broadcast rights, said the decision was taken to maximize viewing figures.

"It''s a business decision," the spokesman told AFP. "It protects our affiliates, our advertisers, and shows it to the largest number of viewers possible," he added.

Bizarrely, the co-hosts of NBC''s breakfast television show barely mentioned the ongoing ceremony during their broadcast, which was reportedly pre-taped.

Okay. I''m becoming convinced. You''ve got to hand it the the FBI. In their clumsy way, they stood up to those trying to pin the attack on Islamic terrorists. For years, they stood their ground.

Now it is time to recognize that the massive biodefense program is causing more harm than good. It is diverting money and talent from important science, and is making us less, not more, safe.

Let''s ramp this program down, and invest in real science and in our future.

[rhs648]

The first anthrax victim, a journalist named Robert Stevens, was "eliminated" by the CIA at the beginning of October 2001 because his investigative research led him to the truth behind the September 11, 2001 attack. The other anthrax victims were killed simply to give the public the impression of a conspiracy.

Posted by anon00

There are much easier ways to have someone killed. Not only that, this could be done without harming other people and without the need for such an intensive investigation. You appear intent on blaming the government without any facts to support such claims. My theory is presented as a possibility and does not pretend to be factual.

[rhs648]

This is interesting. Do you suppose his fear of losing his job may have also been the reason to plan his attacks to coincide the date planned for the 9-11 terrorist attacks by beginning to prepare the Anthrax sometime in mid-August 2001, so that he could then unleash this on America to coincide with the 9-11 attacks?

Posted by prometheus41

This may have been coincidental. Ivins may have felt that an anthrax attact would help protect his job. If his thinking wasn''t rational, he may have felt that such an attack might make him more important to the government, protect his job, and enhance his research. It would take a sick person to murder other people for the sake of a job. So much would depend on the state of his mind.

[rhs648]

correction:

There is another theory of why Ivins might be the person who sent the anthrax through the mail. He may have feared losing his job. As someone who lived near Fort Detrick, knows some of the scientists who have worked at Fort Detrick, and knows some of its history, it would not surprise me if Ivins may have felt that his job or the projects on which he worked would be terminated. At one time, Fort Detrick was known for its research on biological warfare. Dreaded diseases to be used for biological warfare was the major theme at Fort Detrick until President Reagan abolished it. Fort Detrick then became a center for cancer research. Over the years, there have been many scientists who have come and gone as the emphasis of research changed. As only a handful of anthrax researchers, Ivins may have feared that his position would be terminated. Considering his questionable mental stability, it would be easy to see how he may have feared losing his job even if it wasn''t really being threatened.

[rhs648]

There is another theory of why Ivins might be the person who sent the anthrax through the mail. He may have feared losing his job. As someone who lived near Fort Detrick, knows some of the scientists who have worked at Fort Detrick, and knowing of its history, Ivins may have felt that his job or the projects on which he worked would be terminated. At one time, Fort Detrick was known for its research on biological warfare. Dreaded diseases to be used for biological warfare was the major theme at Fort Detrick until President Reagan abolished it. Fort Detrick then became a center for cancer research. Over the years, there have been many scientists who have come and gone as the emphasis of research changed. As only a handful of anthrax researchers, Ivins may have feared that his position would be terminated. Considering his questionable mental stability, it would be easy to see how he may have feared losing his job even if it wasn''t really being threatened.