Comments on: Feds: Ivins Was Lone Anthrax Killer

Documents Allege Scientist Had Anthrax Linked To 2001 Attacks, Planned To Kill Those Who "Wronged Him"

[smurfcrusher]

I''ve read the stories about the extreme tactics the FBI have used on so-called "persons of interest" in this case.

Clearly no tactic is too low for these people; even trying to bribe and turn children against their own father, saying he murdered people when in reality knowing no such thing was true.

Depending on your sense of personal ethics, the readers of this column are either extraordinarily proud, or sick to their stomachs, of the FBI.

[txgrouch2006]

Somebody like George Bush or Dik Cheney, that is?
Posted by jmurrieta1 at 07:40 PM : Aug 06, 2008

Those guys wouldn''t have had enough inside access to set up the "off-limits" lab where the powder form was made.

ONLY LAB MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS. ONLY LAB MANAGEMENT HAD THE MOTIVE. ONLY LAB MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE KNOWN IVINS WELL ENOUGH TO TARGET HIM TO BE THE PATSY.

[txgrouch2006]

That''''''''s a lot of swallowing. I''''''''m finding this story hard to swallow.
Posted by downtowner97 at 07:44 PM : Aug 06, 2008

He''s a patsy all right. I''m STILL waiting for an explanation of how he used all that equipment to make powder form WITHOUT ANYONE NOTICING.

That could ONLY have done that in an "off-limits" area, which would require MANAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT.

I used to work in high-tech. YES, MANAGEMENT WILL KILL FOR PROFIT. Management is the one looking for more funding for their empires. Not the pawn who work for them.

30 individuals had access to this batch of anthrax. They all had bosses. ANY OF THEM could have done this, and management set up Ivins to take the blame.

NO WAY IVINS COULD HAVE DONE THIS ALONE.

[libra127]

People, if you don''t smell the rotten smell of Cheney all over these Anthrax mailings, then you probably believe Scooter Libby outed a CIA agent on his own.

Posted by n8yvn29 at 06:18 PM : Aug 06, 2008

Please tell us if you have any evidence that Cheney was involved in the anthrax mailings.

[joker1944-2009]

How interesting that they were merely waiting to indict him.

Posted by rudy654 at 07:14 PM : Aug 06, 2008


...and that he had his full security clearance until July 10th - less than a _month_ ago.

Still waiting for that compelling proof about the supposed sorority obsession. Or could it be that it was just a way to place him in Jersey AND publically smear him at the same time?

[jmurrieta1]

If the wrinkly white haired white guy gets to be president we''ll NEVER know what really happened, count on it.

[downtowner97]

The lethal dose (LD50) of codeine for an adult is 800 mg. There''''s 30 mg of codeine in a Tylenol 3. That means if a group of 100 adults each took 27 Tylenol 3 pills, half of them would survive.

The average prescription of Tylenol 3 is 12 pills.

Have you ever tried swallowing a handful of pills? Tylenol 3 pills are large and you''''d be talking 3 handsful.

You can get codeine in some states in over-the-counter medications. Generally, the pills have at least 3 medications in them, and there''''s no more than 8 mg of codeine in them. That means you''''d have to swallow 100 pills in order to have a 50/50 chance of dying.

That''''s a lot of swallowing. I''''m finding this story hard to swallow. He was supervised. Death from Codeine would take many hours. Didn''''t anyone notice he was acting a little groggy? If someone takes an overdose of codeine, a simple injection of Narcan would block the effects of the codeine and save the patient''''s life.

There are hundreds of pages of investigative work, according to the article. The one missing page is the suicide note that would lead the investigators and the county coroner to rule the death a suicide. Apparently, the investigators don''t have one of those.

[jmurrieta1]

So why did it take the FBI 5-7 years to figure that out?

And how would they possibly know whether or not somebody put him up to it, protected his security clearance despite his apparent aberrations, and generally enabled the attacks for their own reasons?

Somebody like George Bush or Dik Cheney, that is?

Smells like a government coverup.

Just like that Russian dude who just by chance ingested some polonium in a cafe.

[downtowner97]

All neat and tidy like three buildings turned to dust!

[mtracy9]

It seems that if the evidence was already so strong against the man, then what were they waiting for? Why didn''''t they arrest him the first opportunity he had? Or wasn''''t the potential of him doing this again considered seriously dangerous?

How interesting that they were merely waiting to indict him.

They were waiting so that they would have time to frame him as a psycho. That way the FBI could say that there was a non-conspiratorial motive for his actions.

[barbaraf4]

Patsy.

[rudy654-2009]

It seems that if the evidence was already so strong against the man, then what were they waiting for? Why didn''t they arrest him the first opportunity he had? Or wasn''t the potential of him doing this again considered seriously dangerous?

How interesting that they were merely waiting to indict him.

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by prometheus41 at 06:58 PM

I am also not forgetting that this administration had already been taking cipricol well in advance of these events, while no one else had been so warned.

[mtracy9]

A LIKELY SCENARIO: The anthrax attacks were carried out by a neocon Black Op team in concert with the team that took down the WTC. The attacks were aimed at two Democratic Senators: Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy who were holding up the "Patriot Act" out of constitutional concerns. Just as bioweapons researcher Bruce Ivins was about to be charged with perpetrating the attacks, he commits suicide. His convenient death prevents any future investigation into the masterminds of the attacks.

[joker1944-2009]

Does anyone actually believe anything this government claims.

Posted by noloyalisti at 06:56 PM : Aug 06, 2008

Well, if you''re a braindead Bush apologist you must. And while you''re at it you have to attack anyone and everyone who disagrees with you or the Bush administration.

Bush, God, Country - in that order.

[noloyalisti]

Does anyone actually believe anything this government claims. Like McVeigh, they want us to believe there is only one "bad apple" terrorist operating. Of course if they weren''t white, it would be a whole different ballgame. This is just like the coverup of 911 with their fake American commission report, most of which is just plain bull.

[joker1944-2009]

that''s because you both suffer from the same condition.

Posted by bobnjersey at 06:01 PM : Aug 06, 2008

Well, I''m still waiting for ''notblue'' to come back with those supposed quotes from Ivins co-workers he was talking about.

Howsabout it notsmart? You were pretty quick to bag on us for being so unreasonable to question the official story. Where are they? Did you do some research on Dudley? She''s the so-called ''therapist'' with massive drug/booze/legal problems?

Did you find any proof that supports the allegations of Ivins being obsessed with a sorority? No? Well, keep looking...

[lochlan-2009]

Why don''t they just come out and say we don''t know-who did it yet, but we are continuing the investigation. No one really is satisfied that this man was the criminal who commited this terrorist act, AND, to your advantage, he''s dead. The FBI is better than this, and we don''t need the dirt under the carpet.

[n8yvn29]

People, if you don''t smell the rotten smell of Cheney all over these Anthrax mailings, then you probably believe Scooter Libby outed a CIA agent on his own.

[mycomment-2009]

This guy and Lee Harvey Oswald share the same history. Both have now been set up as the fall guy for the criminals in the bush administration who actually carried out the attacks.
Don''t believe any of it. Liars and criminals.
Posted by notfooled at 06:07 PM : Aug 06, 2008

Ok with this lastest addition to your x-files family, I''m out of here. Have fun...enjoy your conspiracies.