Comments on: DNA Key To FBI's Anthrax Probe

Source: Tracking Lethal Letters To Army Scientist Involved Advanced Genetic ID Techniques

[neoconrcrazy]

"Among the other unanswered questions in the investigation is how Ivins could have created the fine anthrax powder that, distributed in the mail, killed five people and terrorized the nation. Ivins'' lab didn''t deal with powdered anthrax and there is disagreement over whether he could have created it - and if he did, how he kept it a secret. "


maybe he had an anthrax mill in his basement! Did the Feds check????

[samsel3]

In an interview with Merideth Viera on NBC this morning August 4, 2008, bureau chief Dr. Russell Byrne of the Fort Detrick lab, and boss of Dr. Ivins said:

" I don''t beleive anything the Government is saying about Bruce Ivins".

The most important statement of the NBC interview and
CBS does not report it.

Dr. Ivins was never indicted, testimony was three weeks away from completion..........

[neoconrcrazy]

so the bush henchmen want to "clear" this matter before leaving office.......the guys in the black hats get off their horses and swab the trial behind them with dry branches.....

guys, 7 years afterwards - no results - we got the uni-bomber but we couldn''t get "anthrax-poisoner"?

when you don''t want an answer, you drop the case.....

[downtowner97]

Why do neocons attack us? They hate us for our freedom.

[downtowner97]

A little research has answered my own question of "Why do we have a weaponized Antrhax lab?" It turns out every country needs one to be able to develop cures, or else they would become sitting ducks in an attack. Once you have a lab, a viable weaponized strain, a cure, automated detectors, and teams trained in dealing with the threat, you only need two more things: A test, and a patsy to be blamed for conducting the test.

The timing of the test was perfect. Attack Liberal lawmakers just before asking them to sign the Patriot Act.

Incidentally, I spelled Liberals "Libruls" earlier because it sounds so dirty when Rush Limbaugh says it that way.

[neoconrcrazy]

Sorry, not 40 days

Posted by prometheus41


thank you, chained one! even chillier now....my God, only a week!

[samsel3]

Another case of CIA assisted suicide.......

Dr. Ivins joins another Fort Detrick Alumni, Dr. Frank Olson. The dead cannot speak and incriminate their perpetrators.

"While aides to Gerald Ford, Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney helped cover up the background to the death of CIA scientist, Frank Olson who fell from a 10th floor window in 1953, not long after he had been classified as a potential security risk."

"Olson''s son Eric says his father''s conscience was troubled by awareness of Nazi-style CIA experiments on human subjects. "

[neoconrcrazy]

2 suspects ;

1st gets 6 millions for false accusations
2nd gets an injection

end of story... or so they think....America is waking up.....

[sistatee-2009]

Minutes after the anthrax attacks, authorities found vials of anthrax in the Texas School Book Depository, and were able to link Bruce Ivins to the crime. Pictures of Ivins holding samples of the bacterium were later found in his apartment, along with copies of mail-order invoices indicating he had purchased the deadly substance from a Rite Aid pharmacy in Dallas.

[samsel3]

Posted by GOP_forever at 12:25 PM : Aug 04, 2008

The answer to the Anthrax mystery lies with Bush, Cheney and the CIA strategists who wanted to drum up support for the invasion and regime change of seven countries. Putting the American people in fear of terrorism for their dirty game on the world stage was a disgusting choice. Using a genetically fingerprinted US Army military grade Anthrax was not very smart. They never thought anyone would research the materials genetic fingerprint. Money, power, greed for gain, they all need to be indicted for crimes against humanity in the World Court where justice will be served for all.

[sistatee-2009]

Minutes after the anthrax attacks, authorities found vials of anthrax in the Texas School Book Depository, and were able to link Bruce Ivins to the crime. Pictures of Ivins holding samples of the bacterium were later found in his apartment, along with copies of mail-order invoices indicating he had purchased the deadly substance from a Rite Aid pharmacy in Dallas.

[neoconrcrazy]

CBS does not report it.

Posted by samsel3


yeah, you''re right - this steam-rolling of Ivins by the Justice Dept - is disgraceful

and the open questions remain as many of you have posed -

for me, it''s the enormous coincidence in timing, 40 days after 9-11 !!!!

an attack like this would take months to organize, no?

or did Ivins, after 9-11, say to himself, here''s a good cover for my murder - blame it on iraq !!!!!!

either we get to the bottom or we can ask "who killed Kennedy"...for the next 100 years

[jmurrieta1]

NIH News, April 30, 2003:

"The complete genetic blueprint of Bacillus anthracis %u2014 the microbe that gained notoriety during the 2001 anthrax mail attacks %u2014 is now known, researchers announced today. A formidable bioterrorist threat and the cause of potentially fatal inhalational anthrax, B. anthracis differs very little from the common soil bacterium that is its near relative, the scientists discovered. Those genetic differences are enough to give B. anthracis its disease-causing properties and may also give scientists valuable clues to its vulnerabilities.

The team of researchers supported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and other federal agencies was led by Claire M. Fraser, Ph.D., and Timothy Read, Ph.D., at The Institute of Genomic Research in Rockville, MD. The complete sequence of the 5.2 million base pairs of the DNA in B. anthracis'' single chromosome is published in the May 1 issue of Nature."


But they only figured out about Ivins a couple of weeks ago? When the anthrax genome was completely sequenced 5 years ago?

Curiouser and curiouser.

[samsel3]

In an interview with Merideth Viera on NBC this morning August 4, 2008, bureau chief Dr. Russell Byrne of the Fort Detrick lab, and boss of Dr. Ivins said:

" I don''t beleive anything the Government is saying about Bruce Ivins".

The most important statement of the NBC interview and
CBS does not report it.

[samsel3]

In an interview with Merideth Viera on NBC this morning August 4, 2008, bureau chief Dr. Russell Byrne of the Fort Detrick lab, and boss of Dr. Ivins said:

" I don''t beleive anything the Government is saying about Bruce Ivins".

The most important statement of the NBC interview and
CBS does not report it.

[samsel3]

In an interview with Merideth Viera on NBC this morning August 4, 2008, bureau chief Dr. Russell Byrne of the Fort Detrick lab, and boss of Dr. Ivins said:

" I don''t beleive anything the Government is saying about Bruce Ivins".

The most important statement of the NBC interview and
CBS does not report it.

[blitzder]

The whole issue reeks of the same modus operandi used to justify the Iraq war, invade then blame the intel people. The same crooks seem to be involved as in the Valerie Plame fiasco. Keep the lid on till it goes away. This administration just can''t stop the train wreck they have caused to American justice.

[jmurrieta1]

I look forward to hearing in detail (as we probably never will) just what these "new" DNA techniques are that were not available in 2001 or 2003 or 2005.

The ability to determine the complete DNA sequence of an isolated bacterial strain has been around for years. And since the anthrax was sent in large quantities of quite pure bacteria, there should have been plenty of ability to obtain a complete DNA sequence of the terrorist strain. Clearly the National Lab would have had complete DNA sequences of all its strains.

What else is there that would suddenly allow the feds to pinpoint this lab that wasn''t available 5 years ago?

Very curious indeed.

[jmurrieta1]

I look forward to hearing in detail (as we probably never will) just what these "new" DNA techniques are that were not available in 2001 or 2003 or 2005.

The ability to determine the complete DNA sequence of an isolated bacterial strain has been around for years. And since the anthrax was sent in large quantities of quite pure bacteria, there should have been plenty of ability to obtain a complete DNA sequence of the terrorist strain. Clearly the National Lab would have had complete DNA sequences of all its strains.

What else is there that would suddenly allow the feds to pinpoint this lab that wasn''t available 5 years ago?

Very curious indeed.

[downtowner97]

Back up a few steps and think about this: Why are we talking so calmly about our weaponized Anthrax program. Why doe we have a weaponized Anthrax program? If we found out someone else had a weaponized Antrhax program, we''d spend a trillion dollars invading them. Doesn''t the US only fight wars where we can pick our targets and minimize civilian casualties? The bigger picture is uglier than the use of this man, who clearly dedicated his life to killing large numbers of people just by getting involved in weaponized Anthrax, as a patsy for justifying the rush to war.

If Ivins did mail the letters, and I don''t think he did, does that make him a Muslim? He probably wasn''t. Was he then a Librul, bend on the destruction of Jesus and America? The letters went to Libruls, so probably not. The pieces just don''t fit.